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    Fanboy Wars Thread: Personal Attacks not allowed | With Digital Fur Technology

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    43 minutes ago, cdsacken said:

    Because Synder had nothing to do with the movie, it was not grim and depressing nonstop and it was colorful and fun as hell. Nothing like Synder films and better in every way. If they just think what would synder do and do the opposite they will be very successful.

    with pastiches aplenty and this dreaded tone of what got past PG-13, here I am looking forward to the Snyder love letter that is Shazam

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    4 hours ago, LouisianaArkansasGeorgia said:

    The ads for the Doom Patrol TV show intrigue me. Would you recommend the show? I am a supehero fan through and through, and I enjoy both DC and Marvel (although I would say I lean towards DC a tad more). However, I would never NOT see a film, watch a TV show, or read a book just because it is one company or whatnot. 

    What do you like about the DP show?

    Every time I figure this is the most comic-booky show yet, there's always another to somehow outdo the previous.

    Doom Patrol is that show right now. Not quite sure if the budget is that much higher or they just know how to put it to good use.

    Arguably the best Vic Stone in everything he's been in to date.

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    12 minutes ago, TMP said:

    Caught up on Doom Patrol. First one of these I've enjoyed outside of Daredevil, and even then season 2 for that was terrible. Even Legion lost steam about halfway through.

    The DD rot started halfway through s1. I thought for sure the best writers of that season would be able to handle not just s2 but the rest of these street heroes.

     

    Legion s2? Season 1 basically ended right before the final episode after picking up the pace in the second half.

    Fanboy Wars Thread: Personal Attacks not allowed | With Digital Fur Technology

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    2 minutes ago, Porthos said:

    Just shows how people interpret art differently.

     

    Rian Johnson has spoken of his deep love of Star Wars in general.

     just because you love a character/series doesn't necessarily mean folks will love what you do with it when you're in charge.

     

    What gets my goat is when folks try to ascribe motives to choices made in the realm of storytelling.  It's my biggest beef I have with folks who slam Rian Johnson for TLJ.  Hate his movie all you want.  Fair's fair.  Just don't go ascribing motives to him, especially when there is a long paper trail of his comments about how he does feel about it all.

    You have my stance mistaken. It's not SW, it's the "folks".  

     

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    14 minutes ago, Porthos said:

    If by "Johnson" you mean Rian Johnson, the dude loves SW more than many many folks I know.  Including possibly myself.  Hell, his favorite character is Luke Skywalker.  

     

    I mean. the dude even loves the prequels for heavens sake. :lol:

     

    But this ain't a hill I feel like defending for the billionth time, so just take my stance as read. :)

    Unless you meant the other Star series, I assumed SW.

    Total ambivalence to what he did to Luke. It all came across rather obvious from the level of baiting.

    Fanboy Wars Thread: Personal Attacks not allowed | With Digital Fur Technology

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    1 hour ago, Porthos said:

    But Snyder seems weirdly hostile to the notion of comic book heroes in the first place.  And when you're coming at deconstruction from a point of anger and hostility as opposed to admiration and respect... Well, things can happen, as perhaps seen over the last few years in DC Land.

     

    (NOTE: Just because one is coming from a position of love and admiration, doesn't mean your decon/recon story will necessarily go over very well with everyone.  As seen in my own particular fandom.  Cough. 😬)

    That's what's flipped. I've never come across a more modern DC feature taking cues from a cornucopia of modern material, Superman especially. Boggles the mind it has taken this long to get a Lex as cutthroat and cunniving.

    Johnson definitely came from a position of anger & hostility even though the craft suggests a level of bemusement.

    The kind of bemusement a troll would relish in.

     

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    4 hours ago, terrestrial said:

    I guess you and me have very different POV about what very left-leaning is.

    You are aware about what a lot of the US calls left is often considered right of the middle in Europe ?

     

    Cameron 'lost' against Hurt Locker. I see no left POV in that movie.

     

    E.G. Spotlight... where is there a left POV?

     

    Birdman?

     

    Oscar tends to give the Oscar to:

    RL based material

    Material, where the actors went through a big drama, suffered,... fought to their limits

    Where they can see the effort in a way.

    Sometimes a movie wins that has not by far a lot of #1 votes, but a lot of e..g. #2 votes. If the voters are split up about who should get the Oscar a lot of #1 votes get 'lost'

     

    I do not really understand where the idea Hollywood is left comes from, yes, some actors speak out for themes counted as left (some of those are here again considered as right),... but there are also actors known to be supporters of the right or stay away from politics (the majority).

    I thought it was merely a joke that the Ocars predominantly care for movies that stroke their ego - deal with filmmaking/characters trying to make it in Hollywood - and movies that come across as the most intersectional. 

    2018's winner is about a gay black pianist journeying across Jim Crow era deep south with his white knight 

    2017's winner is about a mute woman discovering beastiality, she's friends with a closeted transage and sassy black lady protecting this relationship from a military white guy 

    2016's winner is about a gay black drug dealer's coming of age story

    I for whatever reason thought 2015's winner was about the housing crisis, but it's really a bunch of journalists who specialize in pedophilia accounts in Catholic Churches 

    2014 - "stroking their ego"

    2013 - interectional period piece

    2012 - "stroking their ego"

    2 hours ago, captainwondyful said:

    And, it is important to remember that watchmen is a disconstruction of the superhero genre. I always side eye people who say folks getting into comics should read Watchmen first.

     

    Watchmen is something you build up to. 

    As Nolan apparently told Snyder and Snyder elaborates for this Watchmen Q&A in which he brings up Batman, "Watchmen was a movie he did too early." IE at a time when the superhero movie genre wasn't as ubiqituous, so the relevant satire plastered throughout fly by. One of the obvious changes from source is when Ozymandias says "not a comic book villain" when in the book, the reference is "Republic Serial". For BvS, it's quite interestingly both a deconstruction and reconstruction.

    Fanboy Wars Thread: Personal Attacks not allowed | With Digital Fur Technology

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    2 hours ago, Darth Lehnsherr said:

    Well both Snyder and Rian Johnson were given the keys to the kingdom of their respective franchises after one film. We saw what happened with Snyder and we don't know whether Rian Johnson's trilogy is a go ahead or not. Certainly is a lesser priority compared to the Benioff and Weiss films. 

    Mad respect regardless for breaking away from nostalgic pushovers and journeyman storytellers. Watchmen did indeed become a movie made too early and on other side of the coin, we got the long-awaited sequel to Space Balls. 

     

    I don't know how Terrio does it, from Argo to BvS to JL to Ep IX.

    You can apparently catch Johnson's trilogy first on Disney+ according to 17 Magazine.

     

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    3 hours ago, Valonqar said:

    Endgame is gonna demolish IX. The amount of emotion these previews are having is astounding. Those characters are true friends. IX cannot possibly achieve that with their heroes who barely know each other. Endgame's gonna crush IX into dust and I cna't freakin wait! 

    I'm more ecstatic than ever for what Terrio brings to the table. JJ for the longest has been working with absolute schmucks when he's capable of so much more.

    Shazam! | April 5, 2019 | 21st Most Profitable Film of 2019

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    20 minutes ago, AndyK said:

    Directors pick dark and grim because they find it more interesting than cookie cutter.

    I thought it was because the gateway to genre filmmaking is action/horror both of which are all about teeth grinding suspense and hair raising setpieces. If you mean directors in general from drama to comedy...well both do deal in tragedy.

     

    OT: where'd you guys hear/read about this Far From Home blurb? or is it some other movie?

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