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    Weekend Thread (12/10-12) | WSS 800K Previews

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    5 minutes ago, Eric Feels Pretty said:

    Excluding the Disney remakes, Mamma Mia 2 grossed 400M. Mary Poppins Returns did 350M. A Star is Born, if you want to count it as a musical, made 436M. Greatest Showman did 435M. La La Land did almost 450M. Even stuff like Rocketman and Pitch Perfect 3 did 185-195M on about a 40M budget. Don't even try and act like musicals haven't been premier destinations.

     

    The thing is that me and Clay and CJohn and everybody else complaining right now...know that theaters won't shut down. We know that Spider-Man's gonna make a bajillion dollars. We know that Spider-Man is going to be this juggernaut around the corner. But the big problem is that Marvel movies and other big tentpoles are the only things selling well right now. And that's a huge problem.

     

    Everything else this year is struggling to survive in this current theatrical ecosystem. Original features, midbudget titles, awards hopefuls, indies, animated kids titles. All of them are failing to maintain an audience and that's an awful, terrible situation that we need to address, because that is a serious problem. It's bad because there's fewer options for people, less diversity in the movie landscape, turns away audiences uninterested in superhero fare (yes those people exist), and it drastically cheapens our overall culture. And for directors and filmmakers who don't want to be stuck in the Marvel industrial complex or have little interest in making these movies aren't getting a good platform or are forced into an industry that destroys any opportunities and hopes for them. That's really, really bad, and is a much bigger picture and way more important that a too big to fail Marvel title making a bajillion dollars. Because really, relying on just one franchise or genre to prop up all of theatrical exhibition...that shit is not healthy at all, especially if said genre starts to wane in popularity. And I'm still not convinced these Disney+ shows aren't oversaturating and diluting interest amongst people.

     

    And yet. Every. Fucking. Time. Anybody dares to talk about this stuff, we're bombarded by Marvel stans that it's not a big deal. It all becomes a giant circlejerk about how Marvel is the greatest thing ever and how it's this amazing savior of cinema and that we should all just shut up and let there be a new superhero movie every week. Who cares if people get sick of it or that we're only stuck with the same bland choices for the rest of our lives? Who cares if diverse genres and filmmaking don't exist anymore? Since superhero movies make so much money, fuck all the other movies, right? We already dominate the conversation, but it's still not enough, right? Got to make sure that we talk about how huge and massive and popular Marvel movies are and how awesome they are, right? The boards have been doing this all year and it is beyond obnoxious and is only belittling people who care about movies and wants all types of films, including superhero titles, to succeed.

     

    If you're not bothered by the fact that only Marvel and Marvel-type films are making money, good for you. But this does not invalidate my problems with the industry or anybody else's.

    Tbf the current highest grossing Hollywood movie of the year is not a Marvel movie

    Spider-Man: No Way Home | December 17, 2021 | The More Fun Stuff Version (yes, that's what it's called) comes to theaters September 2nd!

    in Box Office Discussion

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    22 minutes ago, cheesypoofs said:

    Why just the unvaccinated? Vaccinated people can still get Covid, pass Covid, and die of Covid too. My fiancee has Covid right now and she's the only one in our household who is vaccinated and the only one with Covid. I had a co-worker who was in his early 40s die of Covid even though he was fully vaccinated. Unvaccinated aren't the enemy. People need to stop this discriminatory crap

    Breakthrough cases are still a thing but overall vaccinated people are way less likely to experience all of that. Unvaccinated people who refuse to get vaccinated are certainly the enemy.

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