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United Arab Emirates Avatar: The Way of Water Dec 16, 2022 193,064 193,064 95,100 288,164 Dec 23, 2022 105,850 -45.17% 394,014 87,538 481,552 Dec 30, 2022 69,253 -34.57% 550,805 34,385 585,190 Jan 6, 2023 50,918 -26.48% 636,108 16,726 652,834 Jan 13, 2023 30,833 -39.45% 683,667 9,485 693,152 Jan 20, 2023 19,873 -35.55% 713,025 6,902 719,927 Jan 27, 2023 13,097 -34.10% 733,024 5,284 738,308 Feb 3, 2023 10,574 -19.26% 748,882 748k Admits ~ $12.588M
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Peru Box Office
- Puss in Boots - 94,408 // 1,640,134
- Plane - 150,897
- Knock at Cabin - 40,455 [OW]
- Avatar: The Way of Water - 38,844 // 2,732,537
- BTS: Yet to Come - 30,600 // 71,204 [OW]
- El Aro: El Despertar - 140, 353
- El Nino Y El Tigre - 18,820 [OW]
- PATHAAN - 14,851 [OW]
- El Monstruo del Lago - 14,348 [OW]
- El Llamado del Anticristo - 12,350 [OW]
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Avatar 2 crossed 5M Admits~ Only 3rd film to do so~ It's has already eclipsed Endgame's total Gross in LC~
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2nd Feb - 5th Feb S. No Pelicula Semana Screens W-End Drop % Total (MXN $) 1 BTS - Yet to Come OW 624 $71.50 - $109.10 2 Push in Boots 2 7 1977 $28.60 -33.02% $413.80 3 Unhappy Forever 2 1506 $18.70 -28.63% $54.40 4 Knock At the Cabin OW 1450 $16.60 - $16.60 5 Avatar 2: Camino Del Agua 8 1081 $13.80 -40.00% $1,055.10 6 MEGAN 6 810 $5.70 -43.56% $171.70 7 Las Aventuras De Maurice OW 937 $5.60 - $5.60 8 Babylon 3 538 $4.60 -36.99% $32.80 9 Qué Viaje Con Papá OW 835 $4.20 - $4.20 10 Winnie The Pooh: Miely Blood 2 939 $4.00 -61.17% $17.80 -
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Avatar: The Way of Water Drop % Pre €459,228 Dec 16, 2022 €2,806,854 €3,266,082 €1,110,549 €4,376,631 Dec 23, 2022 €2,347,144 -16.38% €6,723,775 €2,991,501 €9,715,276 Dec 30, 2022 €2,891,320 23.18% €12,606,596 €2,410,920 €15,017,516 Jan 6, 2023 €3,570,401 23.49% €18,587,917 €609,083 €19,197,000 Jan 13, 2023 €2,248,832 -37.01% €21,445,832 €218,909 €21,664,741 Jan 20, 2023 €1,446,019 -35.70% €23,110,760 €408,099 €23,518,859 Jan 27, 2023 €1,228,293 -15.06% €24,747,152 €289,355 €25,036,507 Feb 03-05, 2023 €893,181 -27.28% €25,929,688 -
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2 hours ago, Favorite Fearless Legion said:
This is such a funny circumstance. You’ve got all these weekend records that have stood for years and years, and then the 3rd highest WW grossing movie comes and knocks them down.
Never seen anything like it in any market that I can recall
It's happening in few more LA markets.
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38 minutes ago, JustLurking said:
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You didn't have to give me example like that. You just don't want to understand my point. What you said is not just true for JAPAN, it's true for here in India or anywhere else too. In India too, we had 6 options of tickets - 4DX Hindi (700), 4DX English (750), 3D English (450), 3D Hindi (450), 2D Hindi (350), 2D English (350).
But, Even though ticket options were there, SHOWs were limited.
When I really went into to watch the Movie in 2D English - there was simply 1 show @ 2PM in theatre, which I didn't like or was full. There were dozens of Shows every half an hour for 4DX & 3D though. So, Even when I didn't want to watch Avatar 2 in 3D - I had to. I simply had no option.
Now, My Ticket price which if given option could have been 350 turned into 700.
I am simply speaking with experience. Ofcourse, if you say it happens only in India - you maybe right. but I don't think so. I have seen people complain who were not Indians in these forums.
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34 minutes ago, JustLurking said:
I'm not sure what you're talking about here honestly, hollywood films do not get enhanced ticket prices in japan. The difference in atp here is mostly just family appeal and premium screens presence (suzume's being so low because it almost immediately had to share with SD and then they went to ava2 instead).
Stuff like MCU films is playing to a niche audience so you're not get any families (kids and elderly have discounted tickets, teens as well iirc). Top gun exploded in premiums as well. Baseline price is 1900 yen, lower with discounts, higher on premiums.
Ava2 had higher atp due to 3D and basically selling only premium screens there. Films like gundam/evangelion/aniplex releases (except DS due to distribution being handled by toho instead) have premium ticket prices and they get higher atps than A2 even with no 3D whatsoever for example lol.
Ok, MCU is niche. Avatar 2 is 3D. What about TGM? What about FB? What about JW? Oh, Well Most HLW movies mostly are catered toward niche... but then, so are most Japanese movies - they are also catered towards fans...
Let's just See - 2023
TOP OW (With ATP):
Spoiler¥1.296 billion ($9.6 million) / 846,687 [418] - The First Slam Dunk (Toei) ATP - 1531
¥496.9 million ($3.8 million) / 371,072 [382] - The Legend & Butterfly (Toei) ATP - 1336
¥477.0 million ($3.5 million) / 259,000 [1,466] - Avatar: The Way of Water (Disney) ATP - 1841
¥320.0 million ($2.4 million) / 235,000 [347] - Dr. Coto's Clinic (Toho) ATP - 1361
¥242.6 million ($1.8 million) / 178,000 [352] - Fragments of the Last Will (Toho) ATP - 1360
¥236.4 million ($1.8 million) / 176,690 [332] - Ichikei's Crow (Toho) ATP - 1340
¥197.1 million ($1.5 million) / 146,000 [336] - Phases of the Moon (Shochiku) ATP - 1349
¥191.8 million ($1.5 million) / 136,000 [180] - Detective Conan: Ai Habara's Story - Jet-Black Mystery Train (Toho) ATP - 1400
¥165.4 million ($1.2 million) / 128,000 [327] - Black Night Parade (Toho) ATP - 1280
¥115.1 million ($0.9 million) / 77,000 [762] - Black Adam (Warner Bros.) ATP - 1493
¥101.3 million ($0.8 million) / 80,000 [339] - Kamen Rider Geats Revice: Battle Royale ATP - 1262Let's take some TOP OW of 2022:
Japanese Top 4
Spoiler¥2.254 billion ($16.7 million) / 1,579,552 [495] - One Piece Film Red (Toei) *2nd Biggest OW Ever* ATP -1427
¥1.622 billion ($14.2 million) / 1,135,829 [418] - Jujutsu Kaisen 0 (Toho) ATP - 1429
¥1.386 billion ($9.9 million) / 982,631 [420] - Suzume (Toho) ATP - 1411
¥1.384 billion ($11.0 million) / 966,367 [498] - Detective Conan: The Bride of Halloween (Toho) ATP -1432HLW Top 4
Spoiler¥939.0 million ($7.1 million) / 603,015 [976] - Jurassic World: Dominion (Toho-Towa) ATP - 1557
¥905.0 million ($7.9 million) / 584,000 [896] - Spider-Man: No Way Home (Sony) ATP - 1626
¥824.7 million ($6.5 million) / 524,843 [745] - Top Gun: Maverick (Towa Pictures) ATP - 1572
¥785.6 million ($6.3 million) / 503,955 [895] - Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore (Warner Bros.) ATP - 1560Maybe you are right, HLW movies don't have added premium but they certainly do have high ATP for whatever reason. Maybe, Japan is a market where most movies that do good aren't simply catered towards Adults.
So, HLW needs to consider that in mind that they are competing against a market dominated by movies that are preferred by Kids/Elders and they should lower ticket prices anyway.
To be fair, Even Indian Movie RRR has 1600 ATP.
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Avatar 2 - 1860 Yen
Dr. Strange - 1610 Yen
NWH - 1550 Yen
TGM - 1530 Yen
First Slam Dunk - 1450 Yen
One Piece: Red - 1360 Yen
Suzume - 1340 Yen
I do think Hollywood needs to lower their ATP in Japan, if they wanna compete with local Movies.
Some people will say Avatar 2 deserved that ATP and it's innovative and what not but really, having too high ATP also isn't good, if you can't convince Audience of that Country that it's something Novel. It's better to sell movies at 1200 ATP have 5M tickets sold than Sell a movie at 1500 ATP and not even half ticket sold.
JAPAN is one country where things have been almost stagnant in terms of rise in Individual Income - I don't see the need that HLW movies have to keep increasing their tix price every few months.
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1 hour ago, LPLC said:
Do you think $700M in Europe and $200M in LA are possible ?
On 08th Jan: 498.8M
On 15th Jan: 565.2M
On 19th Jan: 610.4M
On 29th Jan: 642.5M
Supposedly, This weekend will be 20M+ & Weekdays have been 10M, So it will be touching 670M+ already. 700M seems very much possible, once you add CIS states in.
In LA though, 128M --> 148M ---> 160M ----> 169M. This Weekend result will put it around 176M+ 200M looks tough because Antman unlike in Europe will completely shut it down in LA markets.
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Europe - $642.5M/ 60.51M Admits [CIS, Middle-East, Africa not Included]
Latin America - $169M / 40.72M Admits
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39 minutes ago, LPLC said:
A2 will not reach 2M admits here ?
It made just 70k this full week. Maybe tough to reach 2m Admits~
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5 minutes ago, Sophia Jane said:
anyway you got any websiet of LA market like chile ,peru and colombia regular update?
I remeber before covid-19 era they all got regular update, now is just gone
Once Exhibidor went under, No Site updates 'em now. Credit to ComScore, it doesn't want sites to put those number out~ that's what I am told.
I do get Weekend numbers every week for most markets. I simply don't update here because people don't like or care, unless Avatar or their fav. movie is doing great.
On 1/31/2023 at 4:51 AM, Sophia Jane said:Top Histórico Centroamérica:
1 - Avengers Endgame 17.3 MDD
2 - Spider-Man Sin Camino a Casa 13.6 MDD
3 - Avengers Infinity War 12.6 MDD
4 - Toy Story 4 11.3 MDD
5 - Rápidos y Furiosos 7 10.4 MDD
6 - Avatar El Camino del Agua 10.2 MDDRápidos y Furiosos 7 is 10.7M (1.99M Admits)
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3 minutes ago, Sophia Jane said:
That’s normal, Avatar is 3 hour movie with the most impressive visual effect, it’s expensive because it’s deserve it, other movie have Avatar’s ATP will threat people not to see the film
Is it? I don't know. Never saw those impressive things.
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1 hour ago, Sophia Jane said:
I think they missed the Lion King?
They didn't. It's a Gross Chart.
The Lion King is only $9.5M ~ (2.12M Admission).
Avatar's ATP is simply too high.
TLK's ATP was $4.6
Endgame had ATP of $5.3
No Way Home had ATP of $5.03
Avatar; Way of Water - ATP is $6.23
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2 hours ago, Sophia Jane said:
So Avatar is made more than Spiderman:NWH in Japan
And now in 80% of Asia market Avatar beating NWH, pretty good.
Avatar 2 crossed 4.2B Yen in Japan?
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1 hour ago, Sophia Jane said:
You sure the previous record is Avatar 2 not other leggy run movie?
Most leggy movie in recent years in LA were Children's Movies - CoCo/Minions/Toy Story/Ice Age/Lion King. They can't compete with Ticket PRICES of Avatar 2 are so high compared to Blockbusters of last few years that even if it's Admits are lower the GROSS is coming out way higher.
NWH already had higher ATP than Endgame but Avatar 2's ATP is almost similarly higher than NWH.
They may have more Admits in 5th/6th/7th weekends than Avatar 2 but not in Gross.
Only reason PiB2 (which is Children's movie too) is breaking Avatar 2's record because it's Admit are way higher than Avatar itself.
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PiB2 is going around and breaking apart 6th & 7th Weekend records setup by Avatar 2. And, it's not limited to just Peru but Almost All Latin America Countries.
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27 minutes ago, Sophia Jane said:
Avatar beating 1.4B RUB in CIS region…All time highest grosser,that’s insane because the previous record holder Spiderman No way home only have 575m RUB…Avatar gonna try triple the previous record
Russia will doing $100m or more if it release
This is wrong. What you are looking at 1.405B Rubles is not just CIS but Russia included (667m Rubles there). So, CIS Gross is 738m Rubles.
Total for CIS + Russia: Gross - 1,405,338,824 Rubles & Admits - 3,672,776
Compared to Cheburashka, whose ATP is 306 Rubles vs. Avatar's ATP is 386 Rubles ~
Avatar: TWoW:
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Whoever said, MCU dead in China. The movies may not be making money because they are simply bad but the enthusiasm to see 'em is same.
Want To See
Antman 3 BP2 BP AM &TW Feb 10, 2018 75.6k 82k 17k 18 Jan, 2023 39k - 22.6k 19 Jan, 2023 44k - - 20 Jan, 2023 - Feb 17, 2018 4 Aug, 2018 110k 31k 21 Jan, 2023 62k Feb 18, 2018 116k 5 Aug, 2018 - 49k 22 Jan, 2023 74k Feb 19, 2018 - 6 Aug, 2018 - - 23 Jan, 2023 - Feb 20, 2018 131k 7 Aug, 2018 123k 67k 24 Jan, 2023 97k Feb 21, 2018 - 8 Aug, 2018 - 88k 25 Jan, 2023 - Feb 22, 2018 157k 9 Aug, 2018 143k 111k 26 Jan, 2023 153k Feb 23, 2018 171k 10 Aug, 2018 - 132k 27 Jan, 2023 173k Feb 24, 2018 - 11 Aug, 2018 201k 150k 28 Jan, 2023 199.9k Feb 25, 2018 - 12 Aug, 2018 - - 29 Jan, 2023 - Feb 26, 2018 202k 13 Aug, 2018 - 176k 30 Jan, 2023 230k Feb 27, 2018 - 14 Aug, 2018 223k - 31 Jan, 2023 - Feb 28, 2018 214k 15 Aug, 2018 - 193k 1 Feb, 2023 262.2k Mar 1, 2018 - 16 Aug, 2018 241.2k Still 14 days left for Quantomania's WTS will surpass AATW by time it will release. Others are D-7/8.
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AUSTRIA:
Place Movie Premiere Weekend (€) Total (€) 1 Avatar: The Way of Water 14.12.2022 €563,963 €15,038,328 2 Puss in Boots: The Last Wish 22.12.2022 €152,145 €2,240,219 3 The Three - Legacy of the Dragon 26.01.2023 €129,981 €153,092 4 The Fox 13.04.2023 €125,216 €603,910 5 Shotgun Wedding 19.01.2023 €104,662 €275,221 6 Babylon 19.01.2023 €87,482 €262,413 7 M3GAN 12.01.2023 €73,323 €549,908 8 Operation Fortune 05.01.2023 €48,838 €702,939 9 The Robber Hotzenplotz 08.12.2022 €38,500 €1,033,448 10 Pathaan 25.01.2023 €34,624 €53,416 Pathaan there with 53k Euro~
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7 minutes ago, Sophia Jane said:
That’s Wikipedia’s number
Wikipedia isn't always wrong but Avatar 2 isn't at 1.6M Admits... it's at 1.18M Admits.
Also, The Second Fall of Constantinople really did 1,331,001 Admits
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5 hours ago, Issac Newton said:
Titanic (Sweden) - SKR171.8M (Original Run - excl. 2012 Re-release)
That SKR171.8M is from Variety International's yearly update. Those numbers were updated by mid of 1999:
Titanic (1997) - 173,702,468 SEK (With 2,166,584 Admits) & 2012 3D re-release had 68,949 Admits. So, Titanic is sitting at 180M SEK. It will become highest Grossing movie of all time, if it isn't already in Sweden once 25th Anniversary version releases.
5 hours ago, Dale Cooper said:1. TFA ~181M SEK
2. ROTK ~ 178M SEK (might be more if it has had re releases)
3. A Man Called Ove ~ 175M SEK
4. Avatar ~ 171M SEK (probably around 175M now)
Then Mamma Mia and The Two Towers were somewhere in ~160M region. Fellowship a bit below. Then both Hobbit 1 and 100 Year Old at around 147M if my math is correct.
TLK (1994) - 119,464,525 SEK with 2,025,470 Admits
Titanic (1997) - 173,702,468 SEK with 2,166,584 Admits [Original] + 8,718,033 SEK for 3D Re-release.
TLOR (2001) - 162,886,764 SEK with 1,942,799 Admits
TLOR (2002) - 165,568,493 SEK with 1,827,026 Admits
TLOR (2003) - 170,268,764 SEK with 1,836,772 Admits
Mamma Mia (2008) - 173,502,290 SEK with 1,905,581 Admits.
Avatar (2009) - 174,215,411 SEK with 1,482,367 Admits [Original + 2 more Re-release]
Will find more later.
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AVATAR is now 3rd HIGHEST Attended movie of all time.
It is already Highest Grossing Movie with 62.7 Billion Pesos.
COLOMBIA TOP 10 1. Endgame 5,922,040 2. Toy Story 4 5,155,568 3. Avatar: Way of Water 4,873,564 4. The Lion King 4,662,525 5. Infinity War 4,375,070 6. Furious 7 4,373,479 7. No Way Home 4,159,472 8. Furious 8 3,929,612 9. Encanto 3,924,124 10. Incredible 2 3,841,683 11. Aquaman 3,793,368 12. Minions 3,147,428 13. Ice Age 4 2,955,343 -
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Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania | February 17, 2023 | Competing with Eternals on RT, Competing with BvS on box office legs
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Posted · Edited by Shanks
This is a sample of why It's been compared to Star Wars lol ~ CGI really do look impressive in most of these Shorts~