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1 hour ago, redfirebird2008 said:
Watching the original movie right now. Can’t help but wonder several things.
1. If Luke had a legit role in Force Awakens, does it make it to $1 billion domestic?
2. If they didn’t kill Luke in TLJ, how much extra would it have made via better legs?
3. If Luke was alive for the new movie, how much bigger would the opening and total be?
Could TFA even have grossed significantly more than $936M? (I’d consider anything above $40M significant at that stage)
Imo, TFA already had everything going for it: It had a great calendar configuration, great WOM and critical reception and weak competition.
I feel like it pretty much reached the peak of what realistically can be reached at today’s domestic box office.
Ofc I’m open for someone with more BO knowledge than me proving me wrong, but I think TFA already reached the highest possible gross at the domestic box office for today’s market.
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2 hours ago, Napoleon said:
Second Act opened this same weekend last year to the same $6.5 million as Cats.
Taylor Swift had a massive budget, a very popular source material, innovative technology, acclaimed director, and a supporting cast full of A-lists, and she couldn't even sell as many tickets as JLo.
Oh no, how will Taylor Swift ever recover?
10 minutes ago, Lion Roar said:SW really needs to move on from the 70's aesthetic. No more planets with mono-climates, no more dusty dirty barren towns, no more silly helmets on everyone, no more giant super weapons. Can't just rely on iconography forever. The nostalgia well is running dry. Show us something new.
I agree with this.
Nothing in the ST really looked that epic or futuristic tbh.
For example, we never really saw a city as grand and as “modern” as Coruscant from the prequels. Unless we count the 10 seconds of that one planet that got destroyed in TFA.
But it seems like hardcore SW fans prefer that old, dirty, western setting, seeing as how much they praise The Mandalorian.
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Didn’t KK/Lucasfilm also request Solo to be released in December, but Bob Iger refused?
Not that it would’ve made the movie a smash, but it maybe could’ve propelled Solo to at least reach $500M+
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40 minutes ago, misafeco said:
I'm waiting for the live-action Frozen announcement.
A live-action Frozen could probably gross over $2 billion if enough time passes by and nostalgia builds up.
Then again, Disney is just burning through their animated classics right now.
I mean 4 remakes in the same year? With 2 of those being the 2 biggest movies of the renessaince era?
I wouldn’t be shocked if Disney releases a live-action Frozen in the next ~5 years tbh.-
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11 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:
Space sci-fi also just doesn't fare that well in China compared to other genres.
True, but Star Wars’ Chinese numbers are really just tragic. TLJ only grossed $42M and TROS is gonna gross even less.
Star Trek is probably the closest thing to Star Wars, and even the last two Star Trek movies performed better there than the TLJ + TROSNot the mention the $100M+ grosses of GOTG2 and Interstellar. Sure, the former had the help of the MCU brand and the latter was more grounded and “realistic”, which may have helped.
But it seems like other space sci-fi movies have no problems grossing over $50M in China, yet Star Wars will have failed to reach that with its 3 most recent movies.
To me that seems like the Chinese really don’t like the franchise itself, on top of the lesser popularity of the genre.
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2 hours ago, sfran43 said:
I wonder what it will take to make Star Wars popular in China.
I think a fresh start with new characters could help, but idk, it will still be associated with the ST simply due to the name and as we’ve seen, the Chinese don’t care for Star Wars, or at least for the ST.
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So is 6M admissions still in play for Frozen 2?
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3 hours ago, PDC1987 said:
Wrong.
You are ignoring her album to album trajectory and the fact that her material has ZERO legs. Her big album first weeks are where her stats come from, and that is simply from her (remaining) obsessed, insipid girl stans buying every version of her albums in every format in multiple quantities the fist week. Adele's 25 is about to hit 10 million copies scanned in the US, in PURE album sales. 1989 is Taylor's biggest global LP, and with physical SHIPMENTS + digital full album sales it barely nicked 10 million.
Zero legs when her album is still in the top 10 on Billboard 3 months later? If everyone of her fans already bought her album in the first week, why has it then never left the top for the other 13 weeks?
And why is her previous album and the one before also still charting, 2 and 5 years after their respective releases if her stuff has zero legs?
And 1989 has far surpassed 10M in pure sales. Yes sales, not shipments. It’s at over 11M in pure sales globally right now.
1 hour ago, 1Robert1 said:People doesn't like TS posts because they can't comment????????????
I didn't say that Taylor is done. And your words aren't true because TS doesn't have #2 best selling album worldwide. If 3 mln people have TS album worldwide and every single one of them will go to see a movie, it will add 25$ million to box office. So what's a realistic number? 10% of this? 50%?
And don't forget about:
Yes having comments disables decreases IG activity. People tagging other people under posts is a major driver of traffic.And you said that “Taylor is done” clearly and explicitly in your post from a page ago, so idk why you’re trying to deflect now...
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34 minutes ago, 1Robert1 said:
01 - 2,521,000 - HOLLYWOOD'S BLEEDING - Post Malone
02 - 2,124,000 - WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP WHERE DO WE GO - Billie Eilish
03 - 1,924,000 - THANK U NEXT - Ariana Grande
04 - 1,857,000 - LOVER - Taylor SwiftShe is behind Billie and Ariana in usa and worldwide
That list is already outdated.
The newest list:
03 - 1,939,000 - THANK U NEXT - Ariana Grande (+15,000)
04 - 1,913,000 - LOVER - Taylor Swift (+56,000)So as you can see, Taylor is selling faster than Ariana, and there are still 6 weeks left in the year.
Therefore my statement about how Taylor is going to have the #2 album for female artists still holds true.
Also if Taylor is "done" despite still being #3 overall and being only 200k units behind the biggest IT-Girl right now, than you really need to re-evaluate your standards lol
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23 minutes ago, PDC1987 said:
Taylor is done, and was never anything overseas. Her last two albums will never even double those first week sales, and she hasn't been able to get a single that stays big after the initial upfront stan rush in years. Mind you this happened before she even hit 30.
And FYI:
- This decade Adele had back to back albums sell more copies in the US than any Taylor album sold globally.
- Coldplay, Ed Sheeran, The Rolling Stones, Robert Plant and many others all have had far bigger tours this decade, as acts like them are actually relevant internationally and thus can actually tour successfully intentionally.
Taylor is done when she is about to have the 2nd biggest album of the year from a female artist? Behind only Billie Eilish, who is the It-Girl of the moment. Or when she was the #1 female artist in the US just last year?
And Adele´s 25 has not sold more in the US than either Taylor's Fearless or 1989 have globally, so that statement is wrong. Also Taylor has been a huge presence in China for the past few years, so even your "never anything overseas" statement is wrong
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2 hours ago, RJ 95 said:
Yup i remembered back then comparison start from Tangled to Monster University to TS3 and Finding Nemo to Avatar to Howl's Moving Castle and finally last boss Spirited Away. For me Golden Week was the most enjoyable moment of OS box office tracking, I mean what movie in its 8th weekend on OS market can gross $11m. Also that disappointment when DVD/Bluray release haha
I keep readinh on here how the video release cut Frozen´s legs in Japan
Out of curiosity, how much more could it have grossed if Disney had pushed back Frozen´s home video release in Japan?
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$180M would be insane...
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I thought the songs in F2 were superior to the songs from F1
Then again, F2’s songs are much more theatrical so I guess that’s not everyone’s cup of tea.
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3 minutes ago, Darth Lehnsherr said:
Very impressive to see Frozen 2 do this well. Cement's itself as the biggest animation franchise (at least OS).
Definitely.
Frozen´s popularity in Asia is notably impressive
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5 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:
Mentally old before being physically old.
Sad.
The improvement of the animation from Frozen to Frozen 2 is really insane
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15 minutes ago, imbruglia said:
CGV Want To See
2019.11.27
Bring Me Home - 3,359 (+1,560) *local
Crawl - 1,060 (+474)
Hustlers - 2,370 (+1,113)2019.12.04
A Little Princess - 943 (+408) *local
KNIVES OUT - 2,919 (+1.411)
Ford v. Ferrari - 3,229 (+1,479)2019.12.05
Last Christmas - 2,645 (+1,632)2019.12.11
Jumanji- The Next Level - 2,195 (+836) *December2019.12.24
Cats - 3,375 (+431)December
Baek Doo San - 1,290 (+751) *local
Si Dong - 988(+582) *local
Forbidden Dream - 616(+324) *local2020
Dolittle -1,422 (+268) *Jan
Star Wars- The Rise of Skywalker - 1.224 (+268) *Jan
Top Gun- Maverick - 1,666 (+132) *June
THE KING’S MAN - 3,153 (+373) *SeptemberMaybe Cats will break out here lol
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I still think this is going to hit $450M domestic. 3.54 multiplier just seems right to me.
$450M domestic, $900M OS, $1.350M total.
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So when can we expect Frozen 3? 🌝
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17 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:
Too many releases affecting holdover. Joker did have sub 50% despite F2 and next weekend movies with good WOM will have insane holds. I could see them staying flat after this weekend as F2 wont be playing in that many screens as its OW.
Problem with F2 was all the hype around the character post release. Its one of the biggest merchandised character, youtube views of trailer views only below endgame and of course bullshit reports from fandango on how much its bigger than TLK. That warps view and I remember some Frozen fans saying this is ENDGAME for girls !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Irrespective of good hold it will have next weekend, its nothing like Endgame.
But if you abstract all that out, this is great OW for a animated movie. As everyone else said., most sequels drop big. Plus F1 was not screaming for a sequel. On top of it it had much worse reviews as well. May be they should have waited another decade to build generational appeal(but I am skeptical this movie would have pulled that like TLK did).
@Thanos Legion are still confident about F2 beating TLK
I am sure that the Frozen live-action remake, which will definitely happen in the future, will benefit massively from the nostalgia factor.
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12 minutes ago, cannastop said:
Assuming 440,000 for this Sunday's sample...
That's about 890,000 sampled tickets, which is only 70% of the market. So about 1,270,000 tickets overall. An average ticket price of 1,400 yen gives us 1.78 billion yen for Saturday+Sunday!
Just a 10x multiplier from that would make it the #8 film in Japanese history!
And what kind of multiplier is likely for Frozen 2? The 10 you named or more?
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3 hours ago, imbruglia said:
2:40AM - 1,662,602
AEG 4/27(SAT) 1,662,469
14,970,007,600 Won / 2,835 Screens / 13,397 Showing (79.3% share)
F2 11/23(SAT) 1,662,602
14,323,454,970 Won / 2,642 Screens / 16,219 Showing (73.4% share)
F2 total 2.9m. and +4m Tomorrow.
Where do you think will F2 end up when all is said and done?
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22 minutes ago, captainwondyful said:
Tbh I would rather have a Disney+ series. Frozen II does a a lot of world building that really deserves more than a 1.40 sequel run time.
A Disney+ series would be amazing, but only if they kept the 3D animation imo, but that would probably be too expensive
Then again, seeing as how F2 is likely to top F1 at the box office, and with various Arendelle themed lands coming to Disney’s theme parks throughout the 2020s, I wouldn’t be surprised if F3 happens somewhere in the mid/late 2020s tbh, just to keep the brand fresh
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Has any number been thrown around regarding the budget of this movie?
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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker 558m OS 1.073B WW
in International Box Office
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Yep, this also concerns me.
I hope Disney & Lucasfilm don’t expect the new movies to reach $1bn right out of the gate just because 4 out of 5 Disney SW will have done so (assuming TROS reaches that mark too), cause otherwise they’ll probably go into panic mode and hectic short-term decisions is not what Star Wars needs right now.