BluKyberCrystal

Imagine seeing the shooting from this past week and feeling the need to crap on a movie because it dare to have someone gay in it. There's bad people and there is whatever the hell this is.

If I can vote: 1. The Empire Strikes Back +25 2. The Force Awakens +24 3. Doctor Aphra (2016 comic) +23 4. Darth Vader (2015 comic) +22 5. Rebels +21 6. The Clone Wars (TV series) +20 7. The Bad Batch +19 8. Solo +18 9. Tales of the Jedi (shorts) +17 10. Battlefront II (2017) +16 11. A New Hope +15 12. Revenge of the Sith +14 13. Jedi: Fallen Order +13 14. The Mandalorian +12 15. Andor +11 16. The Clone Wars (movie) +10 17. The Phantom Menace +9 18. Return of the Jedi +8 19. The Rise of Skywalker +7 20. The Book of Boba Fett +6 21. Obi-Wan Kenobi +5 22. Star Wars Battlefront (2015) +4 23. Attack of the Clones +3 24. The Last Jedi +2 25. Rogue One +1

If it had China, it would've crossed a billion. Which is what the peak era MCU movies had. Without China, Russia, and the Ukraine accounted for, MOM matches up to any movie that isn't Avengers, BP, or NWH. Now we can argue inflation but there is also exchange rates to consider. MOM matches Civil War startling well.

You make sense. I do wonder how much major cities not doing their public big screens for games might effect the overall viewership in those countries. I believe Spain, France, and Germany are among those not doing them. In removing the "community" aspect of the whole event, perhaps while the same people will watch the games, they won't be spending all day at events, freeing up time. Especially with the holidays.

That applies to vast majority of blockbusters. Even with poor-ish reception, they are matching "peak" MCU. That doesn't seem like some sort of massive downward trend. Especially with a bunch of different variables that don't apply to the Phase 3 flicks. It's not like SW, which saw massive drop offs starting with TLJ.

I understand "keep it simple stupid", but can you really just leave it so basic at this point? As to writing, I feel like there is high level of rose tinted glasses for what happened though out the first 3 phases. Like you bring up the mid and post credit scenes. How many of them had at least one legit scene that was important to the plot? Iron Man - yes TIH - no Iron Man 2 - yes Thor - no Cap - no Avengers - yes Iron Man 3 - no TDW - yes TWS - yes GotG - no AoU - yes Ant-Man - no Civil War - yes Strange - no vol 2 - no Homecoming - no Ragnarok - yes Black Panther - no I've personally preferred phase 4 to at least 1 and 2, but even if I'm not in the majority, has the box office actually suffered? The landscape has changed post-Endgame, and yet the box office has kept to a similar level to phase 3 with the exception being Black Widow, Shang-Chi, and Eternals, which came out early in the attempt to return to normalcy. They lost, Russia, and the Ukraine, but the last three were basically the equivalent of Infinity War, Civil War, and Ragnarok without those countries, and Disney blunting a bit of their legs with their Disney+ strategy for home release. I get inflation is a thing, but even still, they are doing well.

What real build up was there for IW over 6 years? You had the Avengers post-credit, GotG, and the Avengers post-credit. We weren't even made aware of the stones until TDW, and even that ended up retrofitting a good number of things to turn them into stones. Did IM3, TWS, Ant-Man, Civil War, Strange, GotG v2, Homecoming, Ragnarok, and BP actually build to IW in a meaningful well? What made IW feel "built up" to, was the character familiarity. And you can only get that over a period of time.

When it comes to spend, I'm curious about the marketing budget. They seemed to go all out with it. Treated like IM3 or an Avengers. Big world tour, to go along with ads everywhere.

Isn't a big part of that, that Marvel didn't have their "biggest" names? Namely Spidey and the X-Men. They basically built their film franchise on their Hal, Barry, etc.