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2 hours ago, Zakiyyah6 said:
There always seems to be those posters trying to downplay Wonder Woman's box office or are hoping it finally stops making money. I find those reactions amusing honestly. It's not even number one anymore, why care so much?
Why do you care so much about people having their opinions about it?
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Announced today its opening in a record number of theaters (4,529).
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29 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:
Cars movies are just Chevron talking car commercial rip offs! When is Chevron going to sue the hell out of Disney?
Funny that you say that... they were the headline sponsor for Autopia at Disneyland for over a decade.
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This summer is underwhelming but you go down the list and almost every studio movie is making a profit given their WW totals. Even Baywatch may make a "profit."
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Write down are big news because they happen before a movie is released, I am not sure what you mean by Hollywood doesn't make movies that don't make money especially at the highest level, outside some safe IP/sequel it is always a big risk and they often make movies that don't make money (GITS, king arthur, long list of them)
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Look at how write downs become such big news... Why is that? Because Hollywood doesn't make movies that don't make money especially at the highest level. There is ZERO debate Transformers is a property with diminishing returns and TF5 very much validated that trend.
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The situation is not any less severe for Viacom/Paramount because they will eek out a profit on TF5. I try to explain this to you guys over and over... The major studios are all part of huge multinational corporations. Their earnings and revenue guidance has their movies making a profit, not breaking even lol.
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45 minutes ago, That One Guy said:
That's not the point. The point is that it's easily gonna profit for Paramount. Whether or not they continue the franchise is another story, but for this film, it seems like they should be having little worries.
No that's exactly the point, most movies make a "profit" ... Woopdidoo. The future of the franchise is very much a question.
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2 minutes ago, That One Guy said:
Paramount isn't losing sleep over Transforners 5. It's killing it overseas. They're going to be fine. They'll make a profit on this.
More to a film's success than whether it made a net profit or not (which is very often already guided into earnings/projections).
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42 minutes ago, filmlover said:
So everything was overestimated yesterday. Eh.
That was to be expected, don't see why you would've had increases from estimates.
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1 hour ago, baumer said:
If WW was over estimated, I can't wait to see Cars
It was closer to 20 than 30 dude after all that
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Just now, meriodejaneiro said:
DIsney is thinking on the ~3B it's gonna make in merchandise, directly to Disney's pocket. Cars franchise is not for boxoffice money but merchandise tons of money. Cars 1 & 2 made well beyond 10B in merchandise revenues though they made 1B ww combined.
Yeah, they print money with all of the kids stuff it's sells. Just go into your local department store and you are very likely to find it.
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1 minute ago, John Marston said:
Makes me wonder what Disney was thinking . Even Dory had a three week gap until Pets
Good question, when did both films pick their release dates? Would be helpful.
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29 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:
DM2 still had better legs even without the Wednesday opening. I still think the franchise had peaked even if DM3 still makes Bank
That's fair man. I'd add franchises usually peak in their first or second entry regardless. Especially among animated films.
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43 minutes ago, grim22 said:
I think we can all agree that DM3 is going to kill Cars next weekend. Monsters U fell 57% against DM2 after a better 2nd weekend hold, Cars 3 will likely see a similar drop if not higher.
Good riddance, the whole franchise is a huge disappointment & yet the financials say from merchandising that it's essential to Disney's P&L.
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54 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:
That can't be right can it? Why did it hold so well despite losing lots of theatres?
12 (12) Baywatch Paramount Pictures $1,458,000 -9% 480 $3,038 $57,365,889 32 What other studio had a big release this weekend? Hmmmmmmm. (Hint: It's a trick question).
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I guess people were dismissing Transformers a bit too early over here. It's not a juggernaut anymore but it should make enough off this numbers for a sequel to make sense, no?
Maybe a spin off but that's about it for now. Let's not pretend that domestic take is anything other than really bad. Might as well film it in China with an all Asian cast. -
Split SING's 270 and SLOP's 368 and you get 319. At 320 DM3 will be closer to SLOP than SING and I think that is very likely.
Can see 100 ow/3.25-3.3x/325-330 dom
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I think the marketing for DM3 has been on point. They know exactly who their audience is and make sure people outside of the core know it's coming. Much better than it's been for any of the other animated films this summer.
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Just now, TwoMisfits said:
WW will have more than 3K theaters this upcoming weekend - there's no doubt.
The movies I mentioned (plus Captain Underpants) will be taking a substantial loss in theaters...theaters keep what's making them money...and those are not the big money makers. WW at #2 still is...it's simple Math and simple movie draws - if every movie draws just guys but one, and you've only got 1 4 quadrant movie in theaters...what one won't really lose theaters for a long time? This is not a trick question...
My point you responded to was that it will start losing screens at a higher rate and that is 100% fact. That's it, I didn't need a dissertation in why other movies will also shed theaters lol.
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I just think the marketing for DM3 hasn't presented a compelling case as to why it'll maintain the audience in full, especially when so many sequels (both live-action and animated) have been falling from their predecessors. Gru's got a twin brother that he never knew about isn't that great of a hook. If it comes close to the numbers as the last two, it'll be a huge testament to the brand power.
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Exactly. Trends change over this kind of time-table. Shrek being the most recent example of a monster-franchise with large family audience. By the fourth film, it dipped back to the original film. Partially because the previous film was highly disliked and partially because audiences moved on or on this case, they got older.
Lol this is wrong I'm sorry, there was plenty of evidence from Shrek 3 that Minions isn't showing that Shrek 4 was going to take a substantial dip. -
Nah, Mummy is likely toast...All Eyez and Rough Night, too...
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Pets wont do overly well
Minions will do ok but not great
Sing looks unappealing
Illumination is always under estimated here.
Im with u @GiantCALBears
I'm not even a fan of this series but it's absurdly obvious the forum in general is meh towards Illumination.-
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Tuesday Numbers : TF5: $5.68M | CARS3: $4.1M(Deadline) | WW: $3.9M (So long SS!!) | BD: $2.1M (Previews)
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