Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. One would think they would learn from the previous strikes. Will they be so cocky when they have to delay all of their tentpoles next year?
  2. It's kind of baffling that this is allowed to happen at all. What power do the studios really have? Without the writers, they have no product. Keep the writers happy.
  3. I'll be pissed if SNL has to end early. They had some good hosts coming up. Plus, Haim (the band, not Saban) is scheduled as the musical guest in a couple weeks and I really enjoy them.
  4. Who wants to start taking bets on Avatar getting delayed again? Just because the first one made an obscene amount of money doesn't mean society is itching for seventeen more. It's kind of amazing how a movie can make so much money yet have absolutely no impact on pop culture.
  5. I honestly didn't think The Promise would do better than Unforgettable. Quality aside, I've seen basically zero buzz about The Promise (other than its huge budget) and Unforgettable seems like the kind of movie to have a built-in decent OW just because it's such a generic thriller that appeals to a lot of people.
  6. Exactly. It feels like those movies aimed at black audiences we get every September that are just remakes of Fatal Attraction.
  7. Unforgettable seem highly forgettable (I guarantee every review will say that...) mostly because it seems like a movie that's already been made a hundred times.
  8. As of today, it's made about $43 million on top of their investment, not counting its numbers in the UK, Ireland, and Malta, which weren't sold off and still go to Lionsgate. Your point about the movie possibly still being profitable in these territories is a good one. We don't know how much these distributors spent on the movie or how much they invested into marketing. It's entirely possible they spent little and never expected a huge ROI and just wanted to make an easy few bucks.
  9. I'd like to think so. Hell, it's still selling out showings here in the Cleveland area (six today...Smurfs hasn't managed to sell out one, by the way...) so people are still seeing it. F8 will cause a huge shift downward across the board next week, so everything is going to slow down as theaters get taken away to accommodate it so it might take the entirety of its remaining time in theaters, but I think it can pull it off.
  10. The point still stands, though. The movie will definitely hit that mark for them.
  11. It's really hard to predict what Lionsgate will do. They've given sequels to movies that performed worse than Power Rangers will end up performing. Their financing method puts them in a much different situation than bigger studios.
  12. People also tend to not realize that, as of this weekend, Power Rangers has made over $40 million profit for Lionsgate. If it ends up getting $80-90 million total DOM, that's quite a decent profit for them. It's far from a disappointing domestic performance.
  13. I think of the three Asian markets, South Korea is the one to watch. They've been rebranding Sentai seasons as Power Rangers for years and they even commissioned their own show from Toei using redesigned Kyoryuger/Dino Charge suits and props. They're more familiar with the name Power Rangers than Japan and China are.
  14. I've never been completely alone in a theater. The closest I got was way back in 1997 when my best friend and I (both 13) saw a matinee of Dante's Peak in like its fourth week of release. It was just us and one other guy who showed up after the trailers started and needlessly sat like two seats away from us. I've been in plenty of mostly empty theaters, but never solo.