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    Weekend Thread | Avengers 2nd Weekend - 114.774 only a 21.5% drop on Sunday

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    7 minutes ago, baumer said:

     

    Thanks, I had no idea what crumbling means.  

     

    I always like to preface this stuff by saying that I'm not a box office wiz.  I make my share of mistakes predicting and such.  But forecasting the future for a film like this one is a different story.

     

    Here's the thing.  Everyone, or many here were looking at IW as though it was TFA.  I'm not sure why.  History has indicated that the legs on many of the sequels are not kind.  There's a massive audience for Marvel but it's not like it's an infinite one.  There's not a lot of new fans that are going to come out and see the 19th Marvel film that haven't seen the other 18.  So why would you think this would have legs similar to TFA.

     

    All I heard about this film is that it would open higher than TFA and you guys were right.  But that's where it ends.  Many of these same voices were then expecting mammoth legs, like TFA.  But why?  TFA is a beast that you just can't really explain except to say that it's SW.  A Marvel film, even one as great as this one, never stood a chance of getting anywhere near SW or a 3X for that matter.  

     

    IW is not crumbling.  It's going to do a massive and ridiculous 100 million plus in the second weekend.  Do you know how many films have done more than 100 million in the second weekend?  Four.  This will be the fifth.  You can't look at the opening weekend and be disappointed in the second weekend.  This had so much up front demand for it because it is a sequel and it is a film that is 10 years in the making.  The fact that it will probably fall less than 60% off of the record opening weekend, is fantastic.  There are too many unrealistic expectations of it, especially since the last three Marvel sequels featuring Iron Man have had horrible legs.  If this gets to 2.6X, it's bigger than what many of us thought it would get to.  So instead of focusing on your unrealistic expectations of it, just look at it based on the other films and you'll see it's an amazing number.  

     

    The gross is fine, it's what some of you thought it would do....that's the problem.

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    People often build up ridiculously high expectations in their own heads that would put fanboys to shame, and then turn around and slam films for not making money that was never on the table. It happens again and again. The games play a part in the over-estimation of weekend numbers, of course. But you'd think that after so many times folks would pump the brakes a bit and be more realistic. 

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    Weekend Thread | Avengers 2nd Weekend - 114.774 only a 21.5% drop on Sunday

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    21 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

     

    lmao did I miss this?  or was it just Han doing his usual shtick and I didn't pick up on it.

     

    20 minutes ago, Chewy said:

     

    Probably Han and Pink and CJohn let's be real

    Good guesses, but no. Those guys would have been funny, not bitter. The main participant should thank Tele and the rest of the mod squad for cleaning that shit up because it was embarrassing. Empty souls were laid bare for all to see. Don't drunk post while sober, guys!

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    Weekend Thread | Avengers 2nd Weekend - 114.774 only a 21.5% drop on Sunday

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    10 minutes ago, kswiston said:

    A potential $125M second weekend for Infinity War, and everyone is talking about Tully. 

     

    Seems like BoT! :P

     

    Could be worse. During Black Panther's terrific OW, most of the chatter was from some male members who whined about women not wanting to have sex with them. The Unfuckables went on for pages before the mods reined them in. And a good time was had by none. 

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    INFINITY WAR WEEKEND THREAD | Actuals ~ 257.698M OW (RECORD) | 106.334M Friday, 82.131M Saturday (RECORD), 69.231M Sunday (RECORD) | 640.9M Worldwide Opening (RECORD) | Read the Rules on the First Post | SALE NOW LIVE

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    2 hours ago, baumer said:

     

    Better paid, sure.  But there's a difference between making sure Evans gets six mill as opposed to two and Downey getting 100 million per film.  It just seems excessive to me.  

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    RDJ is doing what most people with the power to negotiate their salaries do: getting as much money for his work as his employer is willing to pay. His salary isn't excessive because he's that valuable to Disney. The responsibility for scaling back Downey's compensation lies with Disney brass, not him. He knows better than anyone that the days when he can command such fees are limited so he's being prudent and making as much money as he can now. That's what any smart person would do in his place.

     

    This argument about RDJ's pay comes up now and again but it really doesn't make any sense. Sometimes people act as though he and other actors are taking advantage of these multibillion-dollar entertainment conglomerates when nothing could be further from the truth. They are paid only as much as studio executives think they are worth. When the ROI goes too low, then we will see paydays for lead actors shrink.

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    INFINITY WAR WEEKEND THREAD | Actuals ~ 257.698M OW (RECORD) | 106.334M Friday, 82.131M Saturday (RECORD), 69.231M Sunday (RECORD) | 640.9M Worldwide Opening (RECORD) | Read the Rules on the First Post | SALE NOW LIVE

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    2 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

    Although it would be a shame if Avatar's dom goes I care more about Titanic's 2.17b worldwide.

     

    It's pretty frustrating seeing everyone taking turns at a shot at the king while he just sits back waiting.

     

     

    Don't fret so. Avatar's domestic crown already got snatched and Titanic's ww number is going to be eclipsed in the next year or so. That will relieve you of so much worry once it happens. :)

    INFINITY WAR WEEKEND THREAD | Actuals ~ 257.698M OW (RECORD) | 106.334M Friday, 82.131M Saturday (RECORD), 69.231M Sunday (RECORD) | 640.9M Worldwide Opening (RECORD) | Read the Rules on the First Post | SALE NOW LIVE

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    12 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

    they are 100 days into a 170 day shoot by the way

    Hopefully, Disney will sell the rights to Netflix once their purchase of Fox is finalized. Then they can release the inevitable live-action Pocahontas without having to worry about audiences getting it confused with the blue version. :)

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    INFINITY WAR WEEKEND THREAD | Actuals ~ 257.698M OW (RECORD) | 106.334M Friday, 82.131M Saturday (RECORD), 69.231M Sunday (RECORD) | 640.9M Worldwide Opening (RECORD) | Read the Rules on the First Post | SALE NOW LIVE

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    15 minutes ago, Trolltastic Tele said:

     

    Tap on the upper-right menu, tap on Account, and "Ignored Users" is an option at the bottom. Select that and you can type in a name and have it added (you have your choice of ignoring posts, messages, signatures, or some combo thereof).

    I have all signatures on ignore because it makes browsing on mobile much easier. 

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    INFINITY WAR WEEKEND THREAD | Actuals ~ 257.698M OW (RECORD) | 106.334M Friday, 82.131M Saturday (RECORD), 69.231M Sunday (RECORD) | 640.9M Worldwide Opening (RECORD) | Read the Rules on the First Post | SALE NOW LIVE

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    4 minutes ago, Jessie said:

    Ah yeah. Poor americans, you should get that law changed

    No, we really shouldn't. A younger drinking age leads to more of what you call "drink driving" accidents and more deaths on the road. Not that some kids don't already drink and drive, but we make them work harder to do it. 

    Fanboy Wars Thread: Personal Attacks not allowed | With Digital Fur Technology

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    32 minutes ago, RRA said:

    That Edgar Wright mention gave me two conflicting thoughts:

     

    (1) After what we've seen what Gunn/Coogler/Waititi have done since he quit, I feel less and less sorry for Edgar. 

    (2) If Ant-Man was starting out in Phase 3, would things have turned out differently for Edgar considering now Feige is free from being under Uncle Ike Perlmutter's thumb? 

     

     

    Nothing about the Wright situation ever made me feel sorry for him. He signed on to write and direct Ant-Man in 2006 before there even was an MCU. Nine years passed between then and AM's release, during which Wright delayed the start of the film repeatedly. Feige gave him more time to work on the script every time he asked for an extension. Wright's main grievance when he dropped out of the project was the fact that Marvel expected his take on the character to tie into the MCU, which had come into existence in the years he had spent dragging his feet. Had he delivered the script on schedule and made the movie in Phase One as planned, there wouldn't have been that overarching framework to which he was expected to adapt.

     

     

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