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19. Wonder Woman
This was a matchup between Wonder Woman (Warner Bros.), Swiss Family Robinson (Disney), Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Paramount), On Golden Pond (Universal), and Home Alone 2: Lost in New York (Fox). The voters chose Wonder Woman, directed by Patty Jenkins and starring Gal Gadot as the DC superheroine Wonder Woman. This is a win for Warner Bros.
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20. Gremlins
In this matchup, Warner Bros. classic horror film Gremlins battled Avengers: Age of Ultron (Disney), Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (Paramount), Patton (Fox), and Bruce Almighty (Universal). The voters went with Gremlins here, giving Warner Bros. the win.
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21. Aladdin
This matchup is between Aladdin (Disney), An Officer and a Gentleman (Paramount), Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (Warner Bros.) and Apollo 13 (Universal). The voters gave the matchup to the Disney renaissance film Aladdin. This is a win for Disney.
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22. Toy Story 3
This battle of the big 3 was between Disney/Pixar’s Toy Story 3, Warner Bros. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, and Paramount’s Mission Impossible. This is the 3rd installment for Woody and Buzz against the 2nd installment of Harry, Hermione, and Ron against the first installment of Tom Cruise’s Ethan Hunt. The voters gave this one to Woody and Buzz, by awarding the battle to the Pixar Crew and Toy Story 3. This is a win for Disney.
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23. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
In this matchup, Disney’s 23rd greatest domestic adjusted film is Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. Its competition from Warner Bros. was The Fugitive, while Paramount put up Saturday Night Fever. The voters gave this matchup to Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl, which featured Johnny Depp in his first appearance as Captain Jack Sparrow. This is a win for Disney.
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24. Monster’s Inc.
The big 3 of Disney, Warner Bros. and Paramount did battle again here. This time, it was Disney’s Monsters, Inc. up against Warner Bros. American Sniper and Paramount’s For Whom the Bell Tolls. In the end, it was Pete Docter and the Pixar crew standing tall, as the voters went for Sulley, Mike Wazowski, and Boo by awarding the matchup to Monsters, Inc. This is a win for Disney.
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25. Frozen
This round featured Disney’s famous animated Frozen against Mission Impossible II from Paramount and Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix from Warner Bros. The fifth installment of Harry, Hermione and Ron, and the second installment of Tom Cruise as Ethan Hunt weren’t enough to overcome the power of Ice Queen Elsa. When it came to voting, the voters did Let It Go and chose Frozen. This is a win for Disney.
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26. Iron Man 3
In this round, Disney put up superhero film Iron Man 3, while Warner Bros. countered with Batman Forever, and Paramount put Fatal Attraction. The voters gave this one to the Disney/Marvel superhero film, giving Disney a win.
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27. Toy Story 2
This one on one matchup pitted Disney’s Toy Story 2 against Warner Bros. Bonnie and Clyde. Toy Story 2 is the second Toy Story film from director John Lasseter and the Pixar crew. Bonnie and Clyde is a very famous and gritty depiction of criminals Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker starring Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway. The voters gave this battle to Woody, Buzz Lightyear, and the gang, which gives Disney a win.
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28. Captain America: Civil War
This one on one matchup was between Disney’s Captain America: Civil War against Warner Bros. Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me. Captain America: Civil War is the 3rd Marvel superhero film in the Captain America franchise featuring Captain America, Iron Man, Spider-Man, and many more Marvel superhero heroes battling each other. It was against New Line Cinema’s second Austin Powers film starring Mike Myers as both hero Austin Powers and villain Dr. Evil. In this battle, the superheroes were successful, giving the win to Disney.
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29. Peter Pan
This was a matchup between Disney’s animated classic Peter Pan against Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. The voters gave this battle to Peter Pan, Tinkerbell and the Lost Boys. This gives Disney a win.
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30. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
This was a one on one matchup between Warner Bros. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban against Disney’s The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. In this battle, the boy wizard, Hermione, and Ron, in their third movie defeat the Pevensie children and Aslan the Lion, giving Warner Bros. the win.
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31. Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End
This was a one on one matchup between Disney’s third installment in the Pirate’s of the Caribbean franchise starring Johnny Depp against Warner Bros. second installment in their Rush Hour 2 franchise starring Jackie Chan and Christ Tucker. The voters went with Captain Jack Sparrow in this one, giving Disney the win.
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Battle of the Studios winners by win percentage
1. Disney- 45.1% (14 out of 31)
2. Lucasfilm -20% (1 out of 5)
3 Warner Bros.- 16.1% (5 out of 31)
4. Paramount- 15.4% (4 out of 26)
5. UA -11.1% (1 out of 9)
6. MGM- 11.1% (1 out of 9)
7. Fox- 10% (2 out of 20)
8. Universal- 9.5% (1 out of 21)
9. Sony- 7.1% (1 out of 14)
Complete list of winners
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Star Wars: Episode V- The Empire Strikes Back (Lucasfilm)
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Jaws (Universal)
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Raiders of the Lost Ark (Paramount)
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The Godfather (Paramount)
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Rocky (United Artists)
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Lawrence of Arabia (Sony)
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2001: A Space Odyssey (MGM)
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The Dark Knight Rises (Warner Bros.)
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Back to the Future (Universal)
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Pinocchio (Disney)
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Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (Warner Bros.)
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M.A.S.H.
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Finding Nemo
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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
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Rear Window
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Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
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Finding Dory
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Cast Away
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Wonder Woman
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Gremlins
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Aladdin
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Toy Story 3
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Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
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Monsters, Inc.
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Frozen
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Iron Man 3
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Toy Story 2
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Captain America: Civil War
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Peter Pan
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Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
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Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End
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A few months ago, the box office theory members voted on a series of matchups that pitted some of the biggest blockbusters of all-time against each other. I would like to thank all of the box office theory members that voted. Before I unveil the results, let me explain the methodology of how each matchup was created. When breaking down the top 200 domestic adjusted films of all-time by studio, I noticed that it was interesting to see where each movie fell on their respective studio's list and became curious about which studio had the best films quality wise in that specific position. Just because a film is a blockbuster, that doesn't necessarily make it good. So I created matchups pitting each studio's highest grossing domestic adjusted film against each other, their 2nd best film, 3rd best film, etc. I knew my own opinion, so I wanted to see how the box office theory member felt.
Obviously, each studio was not equally represented on the list. Disney has the most movies in the top 200 with 45. The next closest studio is Warner Bros. with 31. Therefore, I created 31 matchups. The last few are one on ones between Disney and WB. Paramount has 26 movies, Universal has 21, Fox has 20, and Sony has 14. Then, there were former majors MGM with 9, United Artists with 9, and RKO with 1. There were also smaller studios that had films on the list as well. The most successful smaller studio is Lucasfilm from its independent days with 5 independently filmed and financed Star Wars films (2 sequels and 3 prequels).
Unfortunately, the voting took up a lot of space in the Speakeasy, so the moderators consolidated the threads, while not understanding that if you do that you destroy the polls, so all of the data was destroyed. Luckily, I was keeping track of the results, so I have a 100% accurate list of which films won. I did not save the other data, so I do not know how close the voting was in these matchups. I decided that I would not make everyone vote again because that wasn't fair to those that participated. I was not sure how to proceed and spent weeks thinking of how to present the results, so this thread represents my ultimate decision.So the best I can do is with 100% accuracy tell you who won, but I can't tell you how close the voting was. I only voted in tie-breakers. I once again what to thank all of the box office theory members that voted, and give a special thank you to those member that voted in every (or almost every) matchup.
With no further delay, here are the winners of the Battle of the Studios.
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10 minutes ago, Barnack said:
Many mentioned local sport media structure involved here, but because of ESPN I thought that Disney would get nothing sport related to not raise anti-trust issue ?
They won't get Fox Sports 1 and Fox Sports 2. They will get all of Fox's regional sports networks ("RSNs"). The RSNs are an area where Disney has no foot-print and Fox is a leader. So there is no anti-trust issue there.
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1 minute ago, titanic2187 said:
they demand 65%-70% cut from TLJ, a franchise that is so big for theater to resist, now with merging with FOX, the cut could go to 80% or even higher......this means no good news for exhibitor.....
and you can imagine they will ask for 8 weeks mandatory screening in 3D halls and IMAX halls for avatar 2
If true, that would still be better than shrinking the movie theaters' exclusivity window.
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9 minutes ago, Darth Suburious said:
I have no loyalty to any studio. I care about people losing their jobs, companies becoming too big. Disney has done nothing for me nor has Fox. I do not get this idea of being a fan of a studio.
I don't understand the idea of not being a fan of a studio if a person follows box office closely. The whole concept of box office really revolves around the studios battling for box office supremacy. Box office is really comparing studios to each other and seeing which one is more successful from year to year (or which studios have the most successful films of all-time). And if you aren't a fan of a studio, then I don't see why it would even matter if one company buys another.
I don't think most people are fans of studios. That's why there really aren't any other boards like this that truly discuss box office. If someone didn't care about a specific studio or studios, then I'd think they'd be on IMDB arguing about which director is better, or which actor is better, or which movie is better. I can't see how following box office could be fun without having a favorite studio or a few favorite studios.
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13 minutes ago, Darth Suburious said:
Today maybe UA would have been a big player. It sucks that we lost UA. How would you feel if Disney sold its film division to Fox?
Not happy at all. But, I'd feel the same way if Apple or Verizon bought Disney. And Fox wants to sell. If my alternatives were Disney being sold to Sony, Comcast or Verizon, I'd be happier with Fox.
I can understand fans of Fox being upset that the studio is being sold. They love the history of the studio and they don't want to lose their independence. It is very tough, I am sure, especially since they were trying to buy WB only a few years ago. However, it's the other objections to the deal that don't make much sense to me.
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3 minutes ago, Darth Suburious said:
You are comparing two much smaller studios to two giant studios. Summit had a smaller market share and fewer employees. It sucks that people at summit loss their jobs. It is like two small local gas station companies in Minnesota combing to be on gas station company and comparing it to Shelling sell its assets to BP. Being like "Nobody cared when the one Minnesota gas station sold its assets to the other Minnesota gas Station company."
This is true. But, I did also bring up MGM buying United Artists, which is the same thing.
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Looks like we are not the only ones having fun with the speculation about Disney buying Fox (and I realize not everyone here is having fun with it, but some of us are).
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/captain-america-deadpool-marvel-movie-014334785.html
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27 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:
Yeah Iger isn't leaving any time soon. Also looks like the deal is $40b not $60b
I wonder if Alan Horn re-ups as well
This goes well beyond the movies though, there's also the TV studio and TV newtorks (national and international)
http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/disney-21st-century-fox-murdoch-fx-1202631508/
I imagine that Fox was the one pushing for that $60B valuation.
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3 minutes ago, Heat Vision said:
Universal gets Paramount eventually.
Why do you feel Paramount rather than Sony Pictures? I am not saying you are wrong. I am just curious.
Battle of the Studios: Winners
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18. Cast Away
This matchup was between Minions (Universal), Cast Away (Fox), Lady and the Tramp (Disney), The Matrix Reloaded (Warner Bros.) and Transformers (Paramount). The voters gave the battle to Cast Away starring Tom Hanks. That’s a win for Fox.