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  1. 17 minutes ago, peludo said:

    Pretty agree. Yesterday I was more convinced, but analyzing data more deeply, it is going to be hard to reach the billion, as other people have already said here. It remembers me Hobbit's run. I think Hobbit trilogy is the possible range: between 950-1.02b. It all depends on legs. We will have to wait until next weekend to know better.

     

    It is hard to compare with MoS because of holidays, but for the moment we have these:

     

    Country: MoS opening vs BvS opening (MoS total gross) BvS total proj.

    Australia: $8.1m vs $10.0m ($22.3m) $30m

    Brazil: $4.0m vs $12.2m ($16.0m) $40m

    China: $25.9m vs $57.3m ($63.4m) $100m

    France: $8.0m vs $8.4m ($20.9m) $20m

    Germany: $3.5m vs $8.2m ($9.8m) $20m

    Hong Kong: $2.0m vs $4.35m ($4.3m) $10m

    Italy: $2.4m vs $5.8m ($6.1m) $10m

    Japan: $2.7m vs $4.4m ($9.0m) $18m

    Mexico: $9.7m vs $18.6m ($21.1m) $35m

    Russia: $5.7m vs $8.5m ($10.4m) $16m

    South Korea: $7.3m vs $10.6m ($15.0m) $20m

    Spain: $3.9m vs $6.3m ($10.0m) $15m

    UK: $17.6m vs $21.9m ($46.2m) $50m

    Total: $100.8m vs $176.55m ($254.5m) $384m

     

    *Increases in local currencies have been quite higher given that ER were quite more favorable in 2013 than now.

     

    The projected figures would mean about a 50% increase relative to MoS, what would mean $565.5m total OS and maybe $950-$965m WW (asuming 385-400 in US). What do you think about these data? do you think that each country figure is reasonable?

     

    yep, i think you are spot on.

     

    What will be interresting also is to see how it behaves once Jungle Book is released, if that movie impacts its BO trajectory significantly or not.

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  2. 49 minutes ago, MrFanaticGuy34 said:

    I dunno.....with that huge WW-opening....$1B WW is not even dead.

     

    Even POTC4, TF3 & TF4 got there with similar critical reception.

     

    I kinda agree with you however, when it comes to the genre, there are no $1b CBM that has been rotten yet. Hell, there are no CBM in the $1b club that isn't certified fresh.

     

    We really are in unchattered territory and it will all depend on how it can retain the momentum it gained on opening weekend in a maximum of key territories.

     

    It is feasible but it won't be easy.  Those movies you mentioned got there backed heavily by at least two out of three of the key asian markets (China, Japan, South Korea).  

     

    The Transformers franchise was alreday doing around $150M in China when the highest CBM were doing a fifth of that.  Pirates is one of those franchise that do $100M in Japan.  Those franchises doat least well in every single territory while exploding in others, mainly asian ones.

     

    So without the heavy backing of those markets, BvS really needs to perform bigger in South America and Europe, and keeps its advance on the domestic market where its trajectory is still $350+M.

     

     

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  3. $1B isn't dead at all.  I personally think it will end up around $1.01B - $1.02B if it doesn't suddenly crash in one or two of the most important markets and keep its BO trajectory.

     

    That said, it should do its best to retain any revenues and show decent legs during the next two weeks.  

     

    Next weekend will already tells the story, if the wom is enough to get there.

     

    I got a feeling that Jungle Book may break out and limit its legs in some important markets (it already opens in Russia, on April the 7th) while Civil War is round the corner as it opens in four weeks in many overseas markets.

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  4. 26 minutes ago, MinaTakla said:

    So it broke world record for highest opening in superhero movies of all time?

    Excellent! I thought AoU was higher!

     

    Most Marvel movies, AOU included, don't open in every territory at the same time contrary to BvS.  

     

    They usually start releasing the movie overseas 10 days prior the domestic one while China and Japan are often delayed post the domestic release.

     

    So all in all, it deflates the ww opening weekend numbers when taken during the domestic opening weekend.

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  5. 37 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

     

     I think IM3 numbers WW is where it's heading.

     

    Worst case scenario I'd say 1.1 billion (350 m DOM, 750 m OS).

     

    With Asia already showing signs of bad wom, including China that is now tracking for a final BO around $90M, $100M if lucky, aka less than Antman, I think that TDKR numbers ww is where it is ultimately heading.

     

    In the best case scenario, it will hit $1.1 but IM3, it wont.

     

    People really underestimate IM3's numbers and IM in general as a massive draw abroad in every continent.  

    This movie basicly did $680m on the foreign front without China.  

     

    As a comparison, TA did $800M sans China and AOU did $700M sans China.  

     

    IM3 basicly did avengerèsque numbers abroad on its own and did it by being greatly received in every single big and average sized market in every continent.

     

    Also, contrary to the domestic market IM3 had great legs abroad in most markets.

     

    So with Asia doing lackluster numbers and two of the big three already showing signs of bad word of mouth in full effect (China and South Korea), i don't see BvS approaching IM3 numbers abroad.

     

    It is currently doing good to great numbers in a lot of markets but not in every single important one as it needs to to have a chance to hit IM3 numbers.

     

     

  6. I personally think and have always thought that CW, aka IM4 with most of the Avengers, Panther and Spidey being valuable replacement to Hulk and Thor,  will open in the vicinity of AOU pushed by stellar ratings but have better legs pushing its total around $470 - $480M.  

     

    But back to BvS.  

     

    Since it is now likely to open around Harry Potter Deathly hallow part 2, it will be interresting to see how BvS fares against that movie and what film will ultimately comes on top domestically since foreign wise and worldwide wise, BvS won't even come close to Harry Potter last installment.

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  7. 16 minutes ago, Emerald kikyou said:

     

    The movie was hated since day one,

     

    I respectfully disagree.  

     

    I rememberred clearly how the masses were literally over the moon when MOS sequel was officially said to be Batman VS Supes, people speculating about Bale reprising his role and being offered RDJ kinda of money to do so.

     

    True the casting of Affleck was controversial but that contraversy was on par with the incredible fervour this movie ignititted, especially among DC fans who saw it as a way to finally compete with Marvel on the same level.

     

    Then the Comicon trailer was released and it was universally praised.  Most were saying that it was the main contender for the biggest and most critically praised 2016 CBM.

     

    The mood changed drastically after that 3rd trailer dropped in december.  

     

    But before it, it was the honeymoon with the general audience and the critics who overwhelmingly thought this movie that have been hailed countless of times as the one everyone have been waitring for thirty years will offer something new and fresh to Marvel stale formula.

     

    That was the recurrent rhetoric until december 2015.

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