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I mean that does mean I can chill with my orc boyfriend in heaven. 🤔

Thats so wack. Ruins the fun of box office tracking imo

Update THE GOAT/Halberstram - Permanently banned for using an alternate account to circumvent a suspension.

Can't wait to be bombarded with all his Cartoon Network characters I don't care about for 20 more years.

Not gonna dwell on this too long, but it’s because musicals have a tough ceiling. Most of the biggest musical hits in the post-Moulin Rouge era have all basically tapped out around 170M at their highest. Almost all of them are still below Grease, which is almost 50 years old. This is including Best Picture nominees and Greatest Showman, which had GOAT word of mouth. And even if it opened higher, it would have gotten to, like…200M? That’s a fair bit away from 400M. Only exceptions have been the Disney remakes. And in those cases, even outside of nostalgia and iconic animated movies, I feel people are more willing to see a musical if it has the Disney name under it for whatever reason. There’s always going to be hesitation with some of the normies when it comes to musicals. And I’m speaking as a theater kid who eats up all things musical. Wonka is also based off a loved and nostalgic property. But big enough compared to Beauty and the Beast or Aladdin? I don’t agree with that. They’re even hiding the musical angle in the trailer, which is odd to me, especially because the actors couldn’t promote it for the longest time. And that’s fine! Wonka doing 165 or something would be amazing. Would be an exciting story. But 400 would be a Herculean task, even with the Christmas holidays

it’s okay. I’m sad too

Updated ZattMurdock - Suspended for one month for reaching 10 warning points.

Resident Timothee stan. Just gonna tell you...400 is never gonna happen. Like...come on now.

Feel like this will be Sherlock Holmes 3 where people will keep saying it will happen eventually, but it never actually does.

That's because people today are more defensive than ever over corporate franchise blockbusters that only exist to make money. That's why people create such idiotic tweets like these where they create narratives that these evil movie critics, who are largely freelancers struggling to get by in the ever-evolving print world, are out to get these poor, innocent, defenseless toy commercials made by ultra rich megacorps that only exist to make rich, capitalist executives even reacher. This anti-intellectual crap is frankly ridiculous and I can't wait for the day that people will wake up from this and realize how silly they sound defending these "too big to fail" franchises and studios. This is also a reminder by the way, because I've seen you do this a lot lately, that this schtick has gotten old. I suggest you find some new material buddy boy.

Quorum Updates Napoleon T-2: 40.38% Wish T-2: 55.3% Poor Things T-18: 14.7% The Boys in the Boat T-35: 19.48% My Ex-Friend's Wedding T-172: 13.86% Deadpool 3 T-249: 53.51% Godzilla Minus One T-11: 21.44% Awareness Final Awareness: 15% chance of 10M Low Awareness: 11% chance of 10M Silent Night T-11: 30.23% Awareness Final Awareness: 36% chance of 10M Low Awareness: 21% chance of 10M Anyone But You T-32: 23.11% Awareness T-30 Awareness: 54% chance of 10M, 19% chance of 20M Low Awareness: 29% chance of 10M The Iron Claw T-32: 21.67% Awareness T-30 Awareness: 54% chance of 10M, 19% chance of 20M Low Awareness: 29% chance of 10M

You know I don’t think they ever used that joke in a Marvel movie lol

Clay, I’ve told you and everybody else this a million times: audiences are the least demanding they have ever been and only want to watch nostalgic toy commercials. How many times do we have to do this song and dance before this is understood? Honestly.

https://deadline.com/2023/11/indie-box-office-the-holdovers-saltburn-stop-making-sense-1235627331/ @Jake Gittes thought this would make you smile

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Well, time to work in the clay mines for the rest of my life. 🫡

Honestly, I don't get the backlash Raya has gotten over the years. I remember thinking it was an all-timer, at least for recent Disney, and I still think that. Cool story, cool world, cool characters, solid message, great action. What's not to like? (for the record, I don't really care why people don't like it, so you don't have to quote why you don't like it to me lol)

I mean...I'm saying they don't want it. The box office numbers show that people just want to see the same rehashed stuff. Original stuff is still largely tanking outside of Oppenheimer and Sound of Freedom, which had big external factors affecting their box office. And like I know people will say "SEE BARBIE AND MARIO ARE POPULAR PEOPLE WANT ORIGINAL STUFF" but like...the only reason they were popular was because they are already established franchises and brands people are attached to. Like nobody would see either of those movies if they were wholly original things not based on toys or games they played when they were 8.

"People want originality and are sick of franchises!" Literally all but two of the top 10 this year are sequels/remakes/nostalgic toy commercials. lmao sure okay.

Would be really fun to have an action comedy that wasn't just Diet John Wick starring Ryan Reynolds.

I mean Divergent and Maze Runner still made pretty pennies in their heydays and were successful. Not Hunger Games-level, but that's like saying Daredevil wasn't a hit because Spider-Man grossed more money.

My case is basically this. I'm mainly using Hunger Games, but you can also apply to this to your Divergents and Maze Runners. YA dystopia is in a bizarre no man’s land in the world of 2023, because there's no real hook or appeal. It doesn’t work as an escapist blockbuster, because its focus on a dystopian hellscape and evil governments hits too close to home when fascism and right-wing hysteria is all over the place. These kinds of stories involve the world being devastated by evil governments taking control and manipulating people and controlling the masses or climate change causing total devastation or some other bad third thing. That is happening right now. So making a fun action blockbuster out of such depressing world events doesn't really resonate when everything is miserable and bad, corrupt politicans and governments are all over the place. The YA dystopia boom largely happened around the time of the Obama years, when it seemed like things were progressing and "Yes We Can" was everywhere. And sure, Star Wars or Avatar do the same story, but at least the space battles and otherworldly locations in their settings can help you divorce yourself from their real world parallels. At least you want to live in those worlds, swing a lightsaber, or become a sexy blue cat person. Nobody wants to live in The Hunger Games' world. So if you want to enjoy this as a turn your brain off, "wouldn't it be cool if I was there" movie, it's kinda hard to do that. But at the same time, Hunger Games is also largely simplistic in its politics and writing, being aimed at teenagers, that it fails to emotionally resonate with the current political situation, which is a lot more nuanced than what these movies achieve. I rewatched the movies over the past few days, and I largely liked them fine. But even if you do like them, it's hard to say they are really Fahrenheit 451-level material or really tackle anything all that in depth about dystopia and how it relates to the real world. Handmaid’s Tale is a stupid show, but its concept is seeped into the current issues within feminism that it helps make it feel like an "important" or "powerful" watch and still feels weirdly grounded enough where it feels like this is a scenario where it could happen. So it’s too sad to watch as an escapist turn your brain off blockbuster, but also too goofy and simple as a "this is the moment" piece of filmmaking. Therefore, you end up with a franchise that has nothing to offer in the current political climate and has no reason to exist. It's like how 24 or The West Wing are products of their time and feel dated today. That's not a bad thing, and it's easy to get enjoyment out of "of their time" media even if you're years past something. But it does mean that their audience is a lot more limited compared to a few years ago and it's not as easy to reboot it for a new generation, unless you really give it a modern spin. And at least judging by the trailers, I don't think Songbirds really did that, though maybe the movie itself is a different story. So yeah...that's what I'm getting at. I also cribbed some of this from a great YouTube video essay about the rise and fall of 2010s YA, which I largely agree with, and I think anybody into this stuff should give a watch.