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  1. 36. Poltergeist II: The Other Side (1986) Poltergeist is a fantastic collaboration from Steven Spielberg and Tobe Hooper, with wonderful effects, a fantastic score, great suspense, and just a tightly executed film. Poltergeist II has almost none of that. It retracts a lot of the plot of the more simple first film, adding cults, weird angels, and native american magic. The acting is a big step down, and Zelda Rubinstein begins the parody of her once famous role. The effects don't hold up despite costing twice the first. Hell even the third equally bad film opted for practical effects that hold up much better. Granted Julian Beck is one creepy guy (who died during filming) and there is one sequence involving Craig T Nelson throwing up an entire human demon that does in fact continue to be effective, but overall, this sequel and the other are bad horror knockoffs, where as the first was a good film first, and a great horror film second. Now they are just known for the crazy behind the scenes deaths that have occurred around all three films. Best Scene: This film finally explains why you should never swallow the worm at the bottom of a tequila bottle.
  2. 37. Jurassic World (2015) (Not so Fast TLW and III) I'm going to be honest. All three Jurassic Park sequels are a major step down from classic original. For instance The Lost World has Vince Vaughn during his awful "drama period" and the raptor kicking 10 year old. But it still has the canon, and for it's worth Spielberg put together some suspense and some well put together action sequences. Jurassic Park III is the best of the sequels, but it also has Tea Leoni, and such a hilariously awful ending. But I give it credit for being a simple chase film. It's light and brisk and knows when to call it quits. Jurassic World is even worst because it steals from both sequels, but has the 14 years of buildup, and the freshly hot Chris Patt who is already wearing out his good will from Guardians. I'll admit there is some joy in the Flying dinosaur rampage. But for every cool sequence there is a "Why not just push the self destruct button that all the dinosaurs apparently have" I just can't get passed Terrorist killing Raptors, and this so called unstoppable "New Dinosaur" that is killed by a T-Rex, when in fact the best scene in III has the T-Rex getting owned by the much more impressive Spinosaurus. Sure you can argue it was 3 on 1 here, but seeing a T-Rex get it's neck popped was much much cooler, and done early in the film. The kids are awful, and Pratt and Howard are paper thin characters. It adds a little Meta humor to appreciate. All three sequels are guilty of that though. And the effects 14 years later aren't any better than the others, and some noticeably worse. I think it's safe to say that Jurassic World is a rough pill to swallow, that gets less flack because lesser sequels are more and more the commonplace. I'm suppose to be excited that they rip off the Alien's ambush camera sequence not once, but two times in the film. This film should have been much better. Hell I remember the humanoid Dinosaur script, in retrospect it probably would have been better. The Simpsons probably made the best sequel in their Itchy and Scratchy Land episode. Oh and please bash me over the head with John William's score. I mean, I know you realize your score is going to be picked apart. But at least try. Harry Potter and Superman found decent alternatives. "Ok Barclay, Barry, Bert, Bort? Oh come on! Bort?" "Mommy, Mommy, buy me a license plate. No, Come Along Bort" "Excuse me are you talking to me?" "No! My son is also named Bort" Best Scene: The audience watching the crazy water dinosaur literally eats Spielberg's other dead franchise shit and they cheer it on. Honorable mention for the guy that double fists his drinks as he runs in terror. Man understands the ridiculous high prices of drinks at parks. Worst Scene: Older brother awkwardly staring at multiple girls throughout the film (How is that worst then Easy Rider through the jungle with Raptors, just look at the sentence I just wrote)
  3. Ok One more. 38. Smokey and the Bandit 3 (1983) Ew this film is awful. Just 3 years earlier Smokey And the Bandit 2 was highest opening film of 1980, and one of the first films to open over 10 million. It even is one of six films to out open The Empire Strikes Back. Thankfully cinema has changed. Burt Reynolds and an elephant, and Clint Eastwood and a monkey could be the most important films of the year. How both were so huge still escapes me. But we are in the world of F&F so there is something about car films with crazy characters over performing. Here we have just three years later and Reynolds said no, A man who made sequels to everything he made. This film is an awful sequel. Even worse is Burt coming in for a cameo that is the very definition of awkward. The film's final gross didn't even match the opening of Part II which adjusts to 200+ million. The acting is atrocious. The story is bad, none of even the cheesy fun works here. The film was horribly reshot after they only had Gleeson playing both roles was badly received and Reed was put in, who is a weak substitute for Reynolds. I won't even post a trailer. Just Reynold's bizarre cameo that comes from the lead of the film saying he can become Reynolds for 5 minutes without anyone knowing the difference. This is a mess. Best Scene: Reynolds and Gleeson mumble to each other for a few minutes. No Script and the each probably made a million or so. There is no reason this film exists.
  4. That's enough for today. These next 38. We're getting to the meat and potatoes. Not a single film I like personally. OK 2 more. But it's only because I recognize how fucking awful they are, but for some reason they do make me smile at times.
  5. Ironically Canon while known for there awful films and franchises, did produce a lot of good films over the years. None of them just made any money. There is a nice documentary on them.
  6. Only bits and pieces over the years. It involved Bizarro, Reeve playing both roles, died in the end, with a fifth film resurrecting him through Bizarro's corpse, but a changed appearance, resulting in a new actor to replace him midway through. The nuclear thing was still there, but fleshed out a lot better (I believe Superman couldn't stop a bomb, which forced his hand vs. the happy message in the film, and stopped others as a form of retaliation and had to "rid" the planet of them) Instead with no money they wrote in the boy who writes a letter to Superman asking him to end the Cold War. In the end Reeve couldn't back out so he made a deal for a smaller film of his to be made in return. I believe the one with Morgan Freeman that I am blanking on right now. Though Nuclear Man 1 (completely deleted from the film) still somewhat retained the low rent Bizarro look Reeve would have played. Hopefully the chicken clucking wouldn't have been there.
  7. 39. Airplane II: The Sequel (1982) I actually don't mind this film that much. It had to follow the funniest film ever made, with none of the creative team, or the brilliant discovery of Leslie Neilsen. But it is a rough film to get through. Instead we have a weirdly written rehash with about 90% of the jokes never hitting, and a space setting. But there actually is some funny stuff in here, and this film has no right to have them. But what's left is just bad. And most of the jokes are simple variations on the first film. William Shatner does one of his few non Trek film roles, and kind of sells it at times, because only an actor with his resume could give that role some legitimacy. But this is the catalyst for why most sequels, comedy sequels especially, never work. And unlike the original, this film is really dated. I mean 14 years too old for 2001: A Space Odyssey jokes when this film came out. You can give it credit for trying, but this film's director is just not up to par. Airplane 2 a bad comedy, an awful sequel, and rightfully belongs on here. Best Scene: A few stupid lines do hold up like this: "I need you to start quietly moving people into the lounge" "We don't have a lounge" "That's not important right now"
  8. I also just noticed that European Vacation had the third highest opening of 1985 after Rocky IV and Rambo II. I think I have enough in me for one more tonight.
  9. The sword fights are better in COBP. There is almost no fun in there. Also way too much of the supernatural. Sure the first film had a curse in there. And it didn't quite have something as stupid as the "Attack of the 50 foot Jamaican Woman." But the whole heart thing is just stupid. And Beckett might be the most half-assed "rent a villain" any poor sequel has ever had. Don't get me wrong The third film is even worse, But the quality drop off from one to two was unmistakable.
  10. 40. Big Top Pee-Wee (1988) This trailer might be misleading, as it's better than the entire film. The First film is as hilarious as it is weird, thanks to the emergence of Tim Burton's quirks, mixed with the man child humor of Pee-Wee Herman. It's dark, clever, and very funny, also fueled by what would be considered the beginning of the brilliance of composer Danny Elfman. But I can't explain this sequel that just misses the mark on everything that works about the character. It's a real unpleasant time to watch. I won't even blame it on the lack of edge the first film had because Pee-Wee's kid friendly shows showed that he could be both funny and filled with heart as well. But something is just very off about this film. The jokes are of poor quality. And the plot and performances just feel weak. And while Pee-Wee on a farm running a circus is arguably a better concept then him on a journey to find his stolen bike, it's stale and boring. It's the only real time that Reubens has ever missed with his 30+ year character (I'm not including this legal issues of course)
  11. 41. Pirate's of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006) Granted, At World's End and Stranger Tides are equally unimpressive films but they were following this Thanksgiving Turkey: A true disaster that even watching the fun original almost gets ruined. On a personal note, this would have been much higher for me. I absolutely hated this film when it came out, and even worst was being on the forums listening to people praise it, its opening weekend record, and better than expected legs, thanks to such a weak summer. Thankfully as a decade has passed more and more people coming back to the right side. It's overblown, overstuffed, and horribly concluded, by nothing more than a weak cliffhanger, and emotions never earned. Orlando Bloom and Knightley are not the Luke Skywalker or Princess Leia we thought they could be in future films. Even Depp is poorly used in this film and the trend would unfortunately continue on. Stupid villains, save Davey Jones, who unfortunately wouldn't completely wasted until the third film. Even still none as interesting or fun as Rush in the film first. He ironically is probably the best part of the film (with a single line trying to trick you into the next film) but his twist of character motivations too prove that much worse is still to come. The first film is the one that broke the tradition: A good pirate film, and even more so it's based on a ride at Disney World. It should have never worked. Unfortunately the sequels corrected it, none ever coming close to the Curse of the Black Pearl living comfortably in mediocrity.
  12. 42. The Evening Star (1996) This is one boring film. For those that have no idea what this even is. In 1983 a film called Terms of Endearment starring Shirley McClaine, Jack Nicholson, and Debra Winger came out. A very subtle film about family life and heart ache. It was a huge hit, and won 5 Academy Awards after being nominated for 11. It's the kind of film that would have happily fit on Baumer's film list that most have never seen. Well that was a 100+ million grossing Best Picture Winner. Well like every bad idea, 13 years later they decided to make a sequel, and took away the interesting characters, and the returning characters simple do more of the same for an entire film that was wrapped nicely in the original. If you've never seen it, there honestly is no point to its existence. This is the type of film that belongs on lifetime where it would be rightfully ignored. Do yourself a favor and watch the original instead, it's a great film competently directed by Simpsons Co Creator James Brooks who would go on to direct other greats like Broadcast News and As Good as it Gets. But this is The Evening Star. This film is useless. This might very well be some of the worst drop in quality on this list, but it's such a slight film and completely forgettable that I can't justify it going lower. Best Moment: You have Jack Nicholson reprising his Oscar Winning role (But in this case he seems to just be ad-libbing for his few minutes of screen time) but hey Jack stops by, and pumps the only jolt into the film.
  13. 43. National Lampoon's European Vacation (1985) 1983's Vacation is regarded as one of the funniest films ever made. 89's Christmas Vacation has grown to be one of the films everyone watches around Christmas. 1997's Vegas Vacation is without a doubt a step down in quality from two greater films, but there is some "watch on a rainy afternoon" fun to it. But then there was 1985. A year that gave us, not one, not two, but three Chevy Chase comedies. The harmless Spies Like Us that still benefited from the freshness of John Landis and Dan Akyroyd, and of course perhaps Chase's defining title role in Fletch. In addition you had a sequel to his most successful film to date, and to say it's a disappointment is an understatement. Perhaps it's an unfair inclusion. Chase, DeAngelo, director Amy Heckling and returning writer John Hughes are funny enough when they want to be, and even there worst jokes might still evoke a smile. In fact there might be plenty of comedy sequels that are more deserving. It's just so lazy. You expect Vegas Vacation to not be the best, because they are all past their prime. This is Chase in his best, and he just is weak here. There are some chuckles to be had, and to be honest a lot are just from the European setting, to why they recast the kids (A joke to recur even in a recent Old Navy commercial.) It's not as fresh, and relies on what worked before. It's a decent rehash ruined by the studio system. I mean why on earth would you limit them to a PG-13 film when the first film was comfortably R. Another sequel that just missed my list was Major League II which is guilty of the same thing. The Expendables franchise did it as well. You're watering down the stuff that made you popular to begin with. Thankfully Christmas and even to an extent Vegas figured that concept only goes too far, you actually have to try.
  14. 44. Rambo III (1988) This was the most expensive film of all time when released? It was in the Guinness Book of World Records of all time as the most violent film of all time. It's a Rambo movie starring Sylvester Stallone. I should love this film. Then why is it so bad? This is a poorly written film, with uninspired action scenes. And it is even more hilarious as the years have gone by. It doesn't help matters that Hot Shots Part Deux parodies this film perfectly. Even Stallone betrays his character he defined by having him and others have to spit out really bad one liners. Oh and nothing says hate my movie like "Add a helpless stupid boy subplot" This was Stallone's first brush with making really bad movies that seemed to be an endless period. What's even crazier is how much First Blood and First Blood Part II hold up. And 2008's Rambo is just off the wall with it's violence. Rambo III goes the super safe route, delivers nothing dramatic, and seeing things blow up and blood spurt from people is surprisingly boring if there is nothing good going on. A film that unfortunately gets used in sentences like "Hey it's not Stop or My Mom or will Shoot bad." Oh and if you ever wanted to see a 20 minute Buzkashi sequence and an unlicensed stick fighting tournament, this is your film. Best scene: Rambo attaches Glow sticks to his arrows. Looks cool visually, but wouldn't that give away his position in a dark cave?
  15. 45. The Fly II (1989) This is a film that almost never made my list, but it just kept moving down and down. It actually does a fairly decent job as an unnecessary sequel. And to its credit it is quite gory and often times has some suspenseful moments. It simply cannot help the fact the highly superior film that came before it. It has some really awful acting, and holy shit some hilariously bad sequences. But there are a few good moments that any horror fan might enjoy. This is a simple monster movie, with some great effects. But unfortunately has all the baggage that goes with such a film. Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis were future superstars that only helped the original. Cronenberg becomes a legend with that film. Gone is the subtle drama and the many horrific moments came just from the performances of the original. It was as heartbreaking as it was scary. I believe this would be the last film on this list that might get any faint praise from me, well because this should have been a truly awful film. Instead it's inferior and just bad overall.
  16. 46. Return to Oz (1985) Boy this is a turd, that most regular people tend to forget even exists. The original is in many cases the standard for what is a classic, and how to make a fantasy film. This film is just plain ugly from start to finish, and even traumatized the few children (including myself) that were unfortunate enough to watch it. I watched it recently in 2015 to go back and see maybe I missed an underrated film in the vein of Legend or The Neverending Story and you know what it does indeed have "I can't believe this was even fucking considered" kind of luster to it. But this is a major drop in quality in almost every capacity. Disney and Company should have known better. An awful experiment with effects that hold up worse than a far superior film released nearly 45 years earlier. Perhaps that is the film's biggest fault. Cinema had just frankly changed too much from the late 30s to the mid 80s. Even the acting of the heroes of the film is questionable at best. You can't even consider it a sequel really, but I think it does deserve to eek on here. One film is the considered an achievement for all of cinema. The sequel like it or not, is simply a trivia answer. But what do you expect when you cast the creepy girl from the Craft and the Waterboy as the new Dorothy.
  17. No one has said a film that at least hasn't been considered yet. That's awesome! Though I think 50 was too small. I think there about 75 or so that are pretty atrocious depending on the criteria.
  18. 47. Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones (2002) Quite Possibly the most forgettable blockbuster ever made. If thousands of fans were frustrated everyone was left going "wah? afterwards. This is the film that gave us "Hate-in Christensen" As said earlier. It's not a an awful film, but it tests everything you have to offer. A Star Wars film at its worst deserves at least something. You need to be in the top 10 of the year. You dropped the ball really horribly here.
  19. As said. It's about the quality that came before. Superman 4 and and Friday 8 are in many ways better than their predecessor. Certainly not the best of the series.
  20. Thats why it is a flop ball. When you expand a list from 25 to 50 you'll get a couple cracked shells. I don't think anyone can deny a drop from a A+ to a B isn't hard to overlook. Godfather 3 is good on its own. It's just a letdown
  21. 48. Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan (1989) It should go without saying how little I care about this franchise. I found 2-4 to be the defining ones and 6 is probably my favorite. But that is not to say that they haven't made some true trash. To be honest I watch Jason Take Manhattan every year around Halloween just because how absurd it is. This might very well be the worst film ever made, but it at least somewhat stays within the boundaries of what was established before. Where Jason is made fun of, this is that film. It may be awful, but it at least tries. Also Best drinking game ever!
  22. 49. Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (1987) This is once again a half hearted choice. I'm sure many would place this higher but I look at the big picture and while this film is awful I can say at least two positives for it. At many times its better than Superman 3. 2, you still have Christopher Reeve giving his all in a film that was destined to fail. And to be honest the cast is there as well. They hate where they are but they will make the best of it. The Salkinds throw their final blow selling Superman to Canon, who goes on to sell half the film to make the fantastic Master of the Universe starring Dolph Lundgren. You can't kick a franchise when it's down. 45 minutes deleted and a scene that cost a fourth a film never made it to theaters. And lets not forget breathing in space or Great Wall vision. I read Reeve's original story. Holy shit what could have been.
  23. 50. The Godfather Part III (1990) It may be a controversial first choice, but after all it did get a best picture nominee, so I'm not really sure where to put it. But it was made for all the wrong reasons. Coppola was bankrupt, Duvall refused over the money they offered him, and rewrote Hamilton for him. Coppola did in fact say it best. It's not a sequel, it's an epilogue. It's competently directed and overall acted decently. It is just simply boring as shit and oh my god Sofia Coppola can direct. But she might the worst actress of all time. Garcia is awful too, as is almost everyone who seems to have lost their game. It's not a bad movie, but it simply is just awful compared to what came before. You won't hate it, but you certainly never have to see it again. HBO and AMC have done just that showing the 8 hour epic of the first two films as one. It's not bad, but completely forgettable.
  24. Yes, we are good to go. Blame it on late night TV, and I got a chance to watch two sequels I forgot completely about. As soon as I'm done editing at work, I will get it going. 2PM now, will be ready by 7 to start.
  25. That's all right, that means absolutely nothing to me. I'm guessing soccer? And I'm sorry, but the film loses any realism the second not one but two successful handsome guys are head over heels in love with Maggie Gylennhaal. That chick is about as sexy as week old milk.
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