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Considering catching a screening today to gauge audience reactions… I feel like this one of the more boom-or-bust releases of the summer season.
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Is it to early to predict that Mario’s opening record will be surpassed by Shrek 5?
I do think it’s clear that Shrek has become much more ingrained in pop-culture over the past 5 years (after waning starting with S3 in ‘07), as those who grew up with the franchise are now in their nostalgia phases, younger generations have gotten familiar with the characters. I think the pandemic played a big part, with people returning to their favorite childhood properties.
The unexpected critical and commercial success of PiB2 also plays into it. If S5 can match the quality of the first two and PiB2, I sense the next animation record holder.
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Other video game franchises that would make a killing at the box office *if executed properly*:
GTA: Adapt GTA IV, the story of an eastern European immigrant who fled a nation of war in seek of a new life in Liberty City, where he couldn't outrun his past. In the game, his home country is unnamed, but it could easily be Ukraine now. If I were somehow producing this, I'd give Chad Stahelski however much money he wanted to direct.
Red Dead (Redemption): Keeping with the Rockstar theme (honestly, they could afford to produce these blockbuster films in house and avoid studio meddling), who doesn't love a quality western epic?
Zelda: I don't think animated is the right way to go, this would need to be a live action fantasy epic
Kingdom Hearts: Multiverse, so hot right now(?), Disney nostalgia, so hot right always. Would resonate with domestic audiences much more than a Final Fantasy film
Half-Life: Sci-fi military action thriller with a scientist protagonist, adapt it with the care that HBO is giving The Last of Us, and you've got a hit film.
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On 4/7/2023 at 12:11 PM, Last Man Standing said:
Yeah the word is it's a strong movie, which makes sense considering Lucasfilm gave him a Star Wars movie immediately after, without even waiting for the reception.
James Mangold doing James Mangold things.
I'm enjoying this film's asthetic. Can't remember if I read it here or on Reddit a while back, but someone compared it to Sky Captain & The World of Tomorrow, and I can't get that out of my head. I'll take this "digital shine" over Marvel's shoddy green screening or the Lucasfilm Volume's lack of dynamic lighting/shading on a space-limited set.
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TGM's success is important in one critical manner: Everyone who saw the film caught the well-edited first trailer for DR1. I think I've said it before in here, TGM had one of the greatest marketing campaign launchpads we've ever seen.
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Haters get out. This is exactly what I was hoping for from Anderson after French Dispatch (the three plots and newspaper framing was overload. Film had no breathing room whatsoever) and Isle of Dogs (cute, but no Fantastic Mr. Fox). This looks weird, whimsical, visually unique (if you want to call it Anderson's house style and complain it's repetitive, fine, but at the end of the day it is HIS style), fantastic cast as always, and seems fairly self contained location-wise, like Moonrise Kingdom. I loved the bouncing around of Grand Budapest Hotel, but Moonrise Kingdom remains his masterpiece IMO.
Don't need to see anything else. Inject this into my veins.
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I’d still put money down on just over $80m OW.
I know a few people who hadn’t seen any Wick films, but binged the trilogy over the past month in anticipation of 4. It’s pretty clear by the expanding returns of each sequel that the JW series has some of the best WOM in Hollywood. The series probably has a better overall perception than the MCU right now, even before the JW4 review embargo broke
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Catching in Imax in an hour. Most hyped I've been for an opening night since NWH. Made sure to catch a screening that looks to be sold out. 95% on RT is insane, and it can still work its way up another tick or two, the way the trend has gone. I'd be shocked if OW is under $80m.
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Just got out of EEAAO at a near-full house in Culver. Caught it twice last spring, wanted to enjoy it one more time on the big screen before it’s award run wraps. About half the audience felt like they were catching it for the first time. This viewing solidified the film as genuinely my favorite film of all time. I already knew it was a masterpiece, but now I really can’t fathom another film as enjoyable, personally impactful, and technically sound.
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1 hour ago, dudalb said:
Way of Water is a 2022 film.
The way that box office records work is that even if a film makes most of it's money the year after it is released, not at all unsual... the box office counts toward it's 2022 totals.
C’mon man, I know how this works… but OP didn’t get that specific
TWOW is indeed a film that has made over $700m WW I’m 2023
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10 minutes ago, Eric Creed said:
Yes. Both Inside Out 2 and that Lion King prequel look like they'll be financial duds, especially the latter.
I could see Mufasa striking the right chords. Combine an original story featuring those legendary characters with the technology already developed, and if Barry Jenkins is allowed to bring his vision and bring the animalistic character drama, this could be a legit critical hit, and I'd imagine a great commercial success. Maybe not cross $1b, but that shouldn't be off the table if it's the truly great film it's capable of being.
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Technically, The Way of Water should already be on all these lists...
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12 hours ago, Flip said:
Fallout trailer came out early February, kinda weird that this doesn't have its official trailer yet
That was the first trailer. MI:DR-P1 already had it's first trailer.
I could see the second trailer coming out later this month, either in front of Wick and/or Paramount's D&D film the week after. If not then, then May when the summer tentpoles start rolling out weekly.
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42 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:
I know they're not as streaming forward anymore but a summer release gets it on Disney+ by October where it'll probably do better?
On paper, what do you think would be more valuable to Disney, releasing this in the middle of a packed late Summer schedule with D+ around Halloween, or a theatrical release during the proper season with a D+ release in the spring?
IMO if Disney is prioritizing the D+ release timing over theatrical timing, then just debut this on D+. This current strategy makes little sense to me.
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That looks pretty good. Like Disney++++ quality. Surprised it's getting dropped mid-summer though. This seems like a more reliable success in October. Right now, opening the week after the Barbie/Oppenheimer double whammy, and the week before the Oscar hopefuls The Meg 2/TMNT's 4th reboot, this is going to be lost in the mix.
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3 hours ago, filmlover said:
they do put out the occasional flop.
I will take this opportunity to lament the inferiority of Avenue 5, compared to the other works of that show's creator, cast, and producers.
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I do think I’ve said on here before that wrapping the Dumbledore/Grindlewald arc in a HBO Max miniseries would have value, but I think I said that before it was clear that Max original programming was being phased out, at least in its current form. I do think it would still prove valuable though.
And I maintain that a “Quidditch World Cup” sports drama film is could/would be massive, can exist standalone, and should be put into production ASAP.
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Re; Guardians 3... I'm starting to think it's not going to perform as well at the end of the day as G2, based off the two trailers we've seen.
G2's hooks: 3 years after the last one. Baby Groot, isn't he just so f*****g cute?!?! Kurt Russell is Peter's dad! The trailers are filled with the humor everyone loved from the first film. And damn isn't this colorful.
G3's hooks: 6 years since the last film, but we've seen the gang 3 other times in that span. Intergalactic animal abuser who lives on a Cronenberg-looking thing, and gold pouty-face boy, both of whom (sorry) played by no-names. Tone leaning heavily dramatic. Overall MCU (and Chris Pratt) luster is fading.
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33 minutes ago, YM! said:
She-Hulk was good and review bombed mainly by alt-right trolls. The majority of the general audience enjoyed. IMHO There's like far worse Disney+ MCU shows like Falcon or Loki.
She-Hulk had some really good qualities that it didn't lean enough into, and was far too scattershot in execution. Jameela Jamil was wasted in a mid-season arc. Daredevil was a fun but pointless diversion. The finale making fun of how the arcs weren't convening in a way that made sense was funny but isn't a substitute for arcs convening in a way that makes sense. Breaking the 4th wall is not itself an arc.
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On 2/23/2023 at 6:36 AM, Sckathian said:
If the worldwide box office has changed then the franchise will need to change with less content and cheaper movies. Hardly a win for fans.
Alternatively make films which have a global audience.
100% disagree. Anything that leads to better content is a win for fans. Limiting the budget forces creators to be more careful with their decisions, focus on quality > quantity. When you have finite resources, which hasn't seemed to be the case with the MCU for the past 5 years, you have to actually get creative with how you use those resources.
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3 minutes ago, Mr Roark said:
What leak? The film isn’t even written yet.It also hasn't been re-written yet, then shot, then re-shot with an uncredited screenwriter comes into punch up the dialogue or something...
Anyway, I know this is literally impossible, but my advice to Feige would be to go completely silent for a full year. No movies, no shows, no marketing, no hype. Just pick a year soon, delay the properties a full year in conjunction with the production slowdown. Ideally Guardians 3 would be a great last film for a year, but earliest plausibly would be after The Marvels/Loki Season 2/Secret Invasion. Fill that gap year with those animated shows, What If, X-Men 97, and Zombies on D+.
I think a Marvel cleanse in the public consciousness is what would be beneficial to the long-term health of the MCU. It's not just about the quality/reception of the individual properties anymore. The whole narrative of MCU discussion is off the rails. Online, in person, among fans, among casual moviegoers. It's been building for years.
A hard, clean break. That's what we need. Push out the schedule for a year and go radio silent, then start slowly building the marketing for Cap 4/Thunderbolts, which are clearly intended as a 1-2 punch. Again, literally impossible, but would be for the best.
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If there ever was a film that would establish what the MCU’s box office floor was, I imagine it would be this poorly received, bloated piece of engine fuel that bares no resemblance to the other two films in its own trilogy.
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2 hours ago, TheFlatLannister said:
"Kang" was a lot better in Loki. He had this enigmatic feel to him which was captivating. Felt like Antman's version of Kang was too black and white. Probably more to do with poor writing than anything else
I agree the writing was terrible, but I thought Major’s performance here was even better than He Who Remains. As much as I enjoyed the mania of a man who spent an eternity living by himself, I though Kang’s simmering rage hidden behind a calm collected demeanor until he snaps was genuinely imposing. Again this is all Majors, but I thought he found (or invented) the nuances of this Kang that weren’t in the script.
I’m excited to see Timely. That was a striking intro. Never want to see the mid-credits Kangs again, at least not without a heavy coat of nuance.
TWOW is indeed a film that has made over $700m WW I’m 2023
Fast X | May 19 2023 | Part 1 of an epic finale trilogy | Critics say Jason Momoa does a good job
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I agree that this one was “so bad it’s good” whereas the last two were “so bad it’s boring”
Mamoa absolutely steals the show. I’d like to think Vin and Lin brought him in expecting the usual gruff villain performance and Mamoa said “screw that, I’m going Jack Sparrow” when cameras started rolling.
Assuming the follow up film(s?) get made, it shouldn’t be that hard to reduce the budget; just write an actual script with a real story and character scenes to supplement action scenes that don’t need constant explosions to drive up tension. Oh, and cut the credited cast down from 20 to maybe 12.