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1 hour ago, LinksterAC said:
Like I said, it doesn’t break the film, and you can fill in the holes with a bit of effort.
But really, the Avatars are a multi-million (billion?) dollar investment that can only work with one individual and they didn’t think it was prudent to do this as a general precaution?
Sure, I can concoct reasons why Jake’s brother didn’t or couldn’t do it, but for a conceit so central to the world building and the story, I really shouldn’t have to.
So, yeah, I do necessarily think it’s bad writing—though I still did end up greatly enjoying the film for many other reasons.
I agree there’s some terrible writing in this film, but not this particular plot point. I do feel like they established a difference between Jake piloting a body, still being Jake, and this clone of Quaritch who acknowledges he’s not the original. That’s part of the dynamic with his “son”. Whether or not you think it worked in the film is a different story. I though it was one of the more flawed parts of the script.
I would very much for third film to have this Quaritch have an existential crisis. I feel like the right pieces were setup for that kind of story; and I think it’s the only interesting thing left to do with his character.
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Some random Way of Wathoughts
- Sam Worthington was very good here. A more nuanced performance (even through mocap) than anything he did a decade ago.
- Conversely, animated Stephen Lang is somehow far less animated than non-animated Stephen Lang.
- Teenage Weaver worked. I fully bought into the performance.
- Simon Franglen contributed nothing new of value to the music of this world.
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6 minutes ago, Noctis said:
Top Gun Maverick is ridiculously smooth...but peak blockbuster? I don't think so. From a technical standpoint, sure. But many other blockbusters (many of them messier films overall) carried a lot more emotion.
Is BR2049 a “blockbuster”? If so, I’ll take it over TGM any day. And to be clear, I loved Maverick as a filmgoing experiencer-
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3 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:
And IMO, I always believe part of the reason why EEAO was so successful as a indie hit was because the movie touches multiverse concept at the right time when everyone was talking about multiverse in between NWH and anticipation to DS2.
The multiverse elements would have been moot if not for the family dynamics.
EEAAO is one of those films where if it speaks to you, then it’s singing beautifully to you.
The multiverse stuff is a good hook to get people in the door. The deep exploration of generational divides and it’s unique viewpoint of, let’s call it optimistic nihilism, hit the right chord with certain generations and demographics, and that’s why it had commercial staying power, critical acclaim, and now a fierce followers, myself among them.
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2 hours ago, SnokesLegs said:
Got to admit, I did feel like Neytiri was weirdly almost entirely sidelined until near the end. Guessing she’s more integral to the third film considering Zoe Saldana’s comments about preferring Avatar 3.
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Way of Water is going to have Margot Robbie Barbie legs.
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I very much enjoyed Way of Water, and may even love it after a much required second viewing, but the dialogue, particularly in the middle three-fifths of the movie, was unbearable. But the last 5th of the movie made me not care.
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19 minutes ago, Grebacio said:
I'm not really interested in anime adaptations because I think it's stupid to make adaptions on the same medium than the original work
I’ve been pounding the table for live action anime adaptations being, maybe. It the next cinematic goldmine, but not for another decade. That said, the potential is vast once the right creatives are given the reigns, which I expect to happen when the right genius executives wake up.
Give Sailor Moon to Greta Gerwig. Who says no?
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“Shit bro, punch this dumbass bitch”
- James Cameron, Rick Jaffa, and Amanda Silver. Probably.
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Are people actually freaking out over this preview number? It's a 4 hour commitment on a Thursday night for a film where people who have been looking forward to it are going to plan for a quality screening. It's not like there's a rush to catch this before spoilers, it's not like there's a need to catch it before the next blockbuster release.
Relax folks. This was always going to be a long-haul track, and I think that's a very respectable preview #. What were people expecting?
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15 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:
Only three more hours and the wait is over
Also known as one Way of Water.
Anyway, I can't recall a blockbuster sequel where the OW #s were less relevant to the overall picture than this one. And I do mean that. I expect WoW to have monster legs.
I'm going with $165m OW, $625m domestic, $2.1b global.
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IMO the trailers focusing on tone and emotion over plot was the right way to go.
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DC fans will get over it, because a new (and well adapted) Superman on screen is better than no Superman screen, and I do not believe Gunn is going to screw this up. I have full confidence in him.
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1 hour ago, Korra Legion said:
Let’s get those rankings goin’:
ATLA S3
ATLA S2
ALOK S3
ATLA S1
ALOK S4
ALOK S1
ALOK S2
My list is the same as yours, after flipping the S3s. You know... I'd also put LOK4 --> TLA1
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Avatar The Way Of Water is without a doubt the worst film I currently have a ticket booked for, out of all the movie I plan on seeing this weekend.
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QoS --> Spectre and NTTD (too long and too cluttered with plot, and didn't balance the wacky with the serious very well). Olga Kurylenko --> all except Eva Green, and Mathieu Amalric always underrated.
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20 minutes ago, omark said:
From his review:
"You might recall that at the end of the last film, the Earthlings were dramatically sent packing from Pandora. Well, it turns out they just came back a year later."
This is totally false and a big mistake.
It is well known from various materials, statements, comic books Avatar The High Ground, etc.. that the humans return 14 years later.I mean... how can I believe the opinion of a guy who blatantly doesn't even seem to have followed the most basic events of the film?
I will say, this is not the only review I've come across that mentions the humans returning 1 year later.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see this work it's way up to 88%
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Hoooooooooly shit
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The Menu was an absolute delight, 2nd best of the year for me behind EEAAO, just ahead of Banshes of Inshirin. And with Glass Onion, Fabelmans, and Babylon all out soon, finally getting some quality cinema in a big blast.
I wasn’t expecting it to lean so much into the dark comedy, I thought that was more the side flavor but it’s a dark comedy through and through, and a biting one.
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1 hour ago, Eric Killmonger said:
Yeah Thanksgiving sounds about right. They'll probably do a similar strategy that the first Jurassic World did by having the trailer play during a Thanksgiving Day football game.
I had that thought too... none of the Thanksgiving games are on ESPN/ABC though, and there's no way Disney would hype up the Indiana Jones trailer for a different network to take advantage of. If it's football, it's going to be Monday Night Football.
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On 11/16/2022 at 7:35 PM, KJsooner said:
Good grief. Been hearing this same b/s color palate argument about mcu films since 2011.
The first Black Panther was much visually richer than Wakanda Forever. Here's a good article about this film's subpar visual quality: https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/black-panther-wakanda-forever-cinematography
I caught some flack on here for saying this a few months ago, but it ended up being true:
QuoteSomething hadn't been sitting right with me for a while re; Wakanda Forever, and I just realized what. In liu of Coogler's choice of cinematographer (he brought his Fruitville Station DP on for Black Panther), this time Marvel Studios brought in their Loki cinematographer. And Wakanda Forever has a much more digital visual feel as a result.
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5 hours ago, Morieris said:
Considering how heavily integrated into the MCU the US Military is both in and out of universe, I can 100% imagine them having military recruiters in the MCU version of MIT and word of what Riri could do got back to one of them.
Perhaps, but given how central this was to setting up the entire sequence of events that made up the "plot" of this movie, there should have been a bit more of an explanation, because it came off as contrived. I still expect my blockbusters to establish proper logic.
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I liked it overall, but it definitely worked better in some parts than others.
I think the more motion there was in a given shot, especially if the eyes are drawn to several different fast motions, compounded by a “camera” “moving” at it’s own pace and angle, then it was rough. And I didn’t like how the frame rate was switching shot-to-shot. Felt like a bunch of insert shots were lagging. Would have been better to make that a scene by scene decision and stick with one frame rate for a few minutes at a time. Also I’m curious if they experimented with ramping the frame rates up/down instead of just doing hard cuts.