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Anyone who believes that those test screening reaction stories are not planted really is not the sharpest

The Nice Guys, Blade Runner: 2049 and First Man all say otherwise. His fanbase is very much an internet one, which also applies to Margot Robbie

Yet, projects big on Twitter are unable to replicate that in reality all of the time. It is not going to bomb, but it is not going to be the massive blockbusters you people are expecting either

It is surprising that people are not seeing that as the biggest problem to be honest. Barbie is going to have the same problem

But yeah, I have legitimately not heard anyone in reality acknowledge this project, so the projections in the trades are not surprising. I genuinely believe that the most fervent(delusional) fanboys have an inclination to go full-on Swarm when this opens similar to Black Adam

I am one for allowing the legal system to play out, but one had active warrants for multiple felonies ranging from child grooming to holding a woman at gun point while the other one is awaiting trial for a domestic violence case of which the public has no details. Those two are not the same. I agree with you on Josh Brolin, though. Nevertheless, people on the have always been hypocritical and are only sanctimonious when it is convenient

Your comment makes no sense because IP snd franchises are still the highest grossers by a huge amount. They are going to stop putting out projects altogether before they stop with that

Everyone who has sense has been saying that, though

IMDB is the most unreliable there is, so you are not serious at all if that is supposed to be your arbiter of reception

Or, they are not expecting anything to be a huge +400,000,000 grosser, which seems very possible given that roster

The budget happens to be the budget, though, so they are not going to be wrong in that instance

Are you aware that you are on the box office section of a box office website?

No one outside of Twitter cares or is going to care about it, and that is the point of that post

Cameron Diaz is top billed for There Is Something about Mary, Charlie's Angels, the sequel, What Happens in Vegas, Bad Teacher and The Other Woman. Name just one hit that Margot Robbie has as the top billing or even as a co-lead?

Is that saying anything? The point is that it is not on the general public's radar and never will be as is the case with the majority of the "prestige" projects

The Fabelmans, Babylon, Banshees, and Tar are exactly that

You guys need to stop throwing shade at Cameron Diaz in that way. Her box office record actually is next to impeccable, and she actually used to be a draw at the box office. Margot Robbie is sinking even superhero franchises. On a probably way more controversial note, Cameron Diaz is actually a captivating actress while Margot Robbie is not

We do not know what the lineup is yet, and that is why I stated that it is the worst Oscar season. Oscar season as in the "prestige" projects. Cold War, Beale Street, First Reformed, Widows etcetera are all better than the supposed prestige titles that are coming out this year, and those are not even big Oscar players. The 2018 lineup is another very low point, but when you have a popcorn Top Gun sequel, Avatar 2 and a silly quasi superhero project where people are fighting each other with dildos as your crowning jewels in cinema for the year, then yeah you have really reached the pits. The fact that people are even pushing an absolute catastrophe such as Babylon as a Best Picture contender says everything. That would be like the Tourist getting a Best Picture nomination in 2011. Where are the Silver Lining Playbooks or The Hidden Figures that used to be the "prestige" projects that actually perform well with critics and audiences?

The "bleak" excuse is not working for the purported "prestige" projects because there is nothing bleak about the marketing for The Fabelmans, Amsterdam or Babylon. They were either marketed as a frivolous comedy or a soft domestic drama similar to Terms of Endearment in the case of The Fabelmans. They just do not appear to be entertaining, and honestly, they appear to be nothing new or unique. There is no doubt that this is the worst Oscar season in terms of quality. The "prestige" projects are barely outgrossing Judas and the Black Messiah theatrically, and that came out on HBO Max with no New York or Los Angeles theaters open, theater capacity being a thing still and a vaccine not being commercially available. That is fucking pitiful, and there is no way to spin that. The problem is the movies that they are putting out. They really have to begin putting out intriguing projects again, not ones about show business or the majestic nature of theaters or whatever other nonsense. No one wants to see that shit. Amsterdam, Babylon, Empire of the Light and The Fabelmans all are about that in some sense or another

You are aware that you are in the domestic box office forum, right?

The Big Short is legitimately unwatchable, and the box office of that is acceptable but nothing amazing, especially for that time

What I am really not getting in the theater prospects conversation is the confidence in next year's theatrical projects. If there are a significantly higher number of projects playing in theaters, then yeah, it possibly outgrosses the gross this year. However, just glancing at the schedule nothing appears to be a $400,000,000+ grosser, let alone a $700,000,000 grosser. Is anything even going to outgross Minions? The Little Mermaid will not be as big as some here are expecting since it has become embroiled within the culture wars. The new Indiana Jones is not going to be another Top Gun either because it has a string of sequels already with the newest not having the best reception. Next year's schedule appears way more barren than this year's. If you believe that this December is bad, then wait until next year's because The Color Purple, Wonka and Aquaman combined are not going to outgross Avatar

Pitt has always struggled with adult dramas, so that is not a surprise

Even her superhero projects tanked at the box office. That is almost impossible to realize given how full proof that genre is nowadays. You can give Suicide Squad an excuse, but Birds of Prey was not on streaming and happened before coronavirus was even a thing in America. They are just not that into her

Shit! Babylon is the bomb of all bombs. Its four-day gross is going to be below the three day for Amsterdam. That is a catastrophe, especially since it is the Christmas season. If Barbie is not a huge grosser, then they are probably going to pivot to some other young actress as the next big star. That seems to be another Twitter thing, though, given its trailer views and that Fandango poll