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Fun trailer, but if you look closely there's a potential here for this to be one of the weaker MCU films. Some of those effects are Terrible with a capital T.
I'm surprised nobody here has mentioned it given
A. how bad they look
B. that's all Twitter is talking about re: this trailer
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Great movie. Most fun I've had at the movies this year. Not quite a masterpiece as some reviews had been suggesting. By that I mean...it's much more of a sequel to the original in tone than the trailers indicated. Definitely some cheese here and there. And I was expecting better from Lady Gaga.
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Sounds like another coming-of-age film where I'm more interested in the political stuff happening in the background i.e. the protests in Roma.
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7 hours ago, exomassey said:
I just listened to a few interviews with Michael Waldron and the way he talks about this movie, I feel like he made every boring decision possible.
He talked about how he didn’t want to travel the multiverse too much because it would be like a cartoon. What? He said he wanted Earth 838 to feel like a real place yet all we got was New York with pizza balls, a memory Lane machine, all the cool characters were killed and red traffic lights.
How the multiverse is used in Into the Spider Verse feels more epic than the way it was used in this movie.
Still felt like a cartoon anyway with the basic production design inside the Baxter building, that silly yellow hover chair, and Black Bolt looking like a CW reject.
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On 5/9/2022 at 8:48 AM, AnDr3s said:
the iluminati scene was the most braindead scene in recent cbm memory
Black Bolt kinda ruined the scene for me. His costume is so terrible I felt like I was suddenly watching a cheap CW show.
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I liked it well enough, mostly for being a pure Sam Raimi movie. But Marvel is losing their touch when it comes to building out their universe. The interconnected thing is only fun if it's building towards something.
Between Egyptian Gods, Chinese dragon dimensions, Book of the Dead magic, and multiverse madness, it's currently all over the place.
And if it's true that Reed was a part of the reshoots, that makes sense. He looked like he wasn't in the same room as the others half the time.
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1 hour ago, AnDr3s said:
also wanda used her reality wraping without consistency she most of the time just shot red beams BORING
This is a problem across Marvel. Just goopy, bright red/purple/pink energy beams or blobs. The visual creativity is really lacking, seems like they just lift everything straight from the comics. Like Black Bolt...worst Marvel movie costume ever.
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21 hours ago, nguyenkhoi282 said:
You know what's even better? I watched the shows and still confused af.
I'm just ignoring Loki for now. Seems like it has no bearing on what is happening multiverse-wise in the movies, at least so far. The rest of it is pretty uncomplicated.
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2 hours ago, dudalb said:
If is confusing if you have not seen Wandavision, that could hurt it. People don't like to be confused.
LOL remember when Feige said you wouldn't need to watch the shows to follow the movies?
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Booksmart was overrated and I don't much like Wilde after what happened with her and Sudeikis, but this admittedly looks quite good.
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I'll say this though. It's pretty weird how historical epics went from being near-guaranteed money at the box office in the 90s and early 00s to basically box office poison in the span of a single decade.
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Theaters are the best form of marketing and I've seen trailers there plenty of times. People don't watch network TV so ads there aren't going to do much. Internet marketing has come a long way, but the results are mixed at best.
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Things are looking up lately with Uncharted grossing well over 100 mil and The Lost City opening really well. The problem in March is studios were skittish and barely released anything. For some reason they decided to cram it all into April, much like October last year.
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On 3/29/2022 at 6:17 PM, TheDude391 said:
Sounds like standard studio interference, nothing drastic that's changing his vision or anything.
They're definitely deciding what the poster and trailers look like, but as long as the movie itself is his vision, it's all good.
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4 minutes ago, Ledmonkey96 said:
Probably because it's interfering with the Sacred cow that is the original Trilogy, personally i thought it was the best of the Disney Star Wars movies..... kind of a back handed compliment but it si what it is.
It's by far the best.
Force Awakens is held back by ending up a New Hope clone.
Last Jedi is held back by not being ambitious enough or being too ambitious, depending on who you ask.
And Rise of Skywalker is a shitshow.
Rogue One is a good story well-told, with the best ending of the Disney era.
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On 12/5/2021 at 4:30 AM, efialtes76 said:
2021 and you can call him rapist without a trial and without a conviction...
Also the allegations against him are some of the flimsiest of the MeToo movement.
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17 hours ago, lorddemaxus said:
I doubt Nightmare Alley is gonna be liked by audiences. If even critics found it boring, audiences definitely will.
Who said anything about audiences? Voters aren't audiences.
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Pretty sure this year we're going to see a pretty big divergence between critics and voters.
So don't expect reviews to necessarily be a good bellwether, not with grumpy critics mixed on movies like Nightmare Alley, Being the Ricardos, and Don't Look Up.
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35 minutes ago, Last Man Standing said:
How many movies that aren't big CGI blockbuster did better than it? Not The Last Duel, not The French Dispatch, or Stillwater, or Cry Macho, or...you get what I'm saying. House of Gucci is gonna do better, but outside of that, what other adult-oriented movie can even pass it by the end of the year? Maybe West Side Story.
West Side Story definitely will.
What I mean is the complete floppage of those other movies doesn't negate the fact that In the Heights disappointed theatrically. That being said, through HBO Max it certainly had more people watching it than those you mentioned.
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6 hours ago, Last Man Standing said:
In the Heights had hype though, and in retrospect had a decent box office as well.
Wouldn't call it "decent," but it certainly did better than all HBO Max movies outside of GvK and Dune.
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On 11/30/2021 at 4:11 AM, lorddemaxus said:
I feel like it's better to get any backlash (which this movie has already started to get and will definitely blow up) out of the way earlier in the race.
Anyways, I think it would be better to build WoM by slowly expanding the movie each week instead of having it in just 4 theaters for an entire month and then release it wide. You aren't going to get a lot of new people watching it that way to build WoM before the movie's wide release.
Studios and publicists just need to ignore Twitter. Social media is not reality, it's a bubble of puritanical, illiberal folks who think of themselves as the opposite.
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On 11/15/2021 at 5:52 PM, dudalb said:
They want to get the good reviews in LA and NYC to hype the general release. This is the kind of film where reviews are Important.
It' the same basic strategy studiios use for many "prestige" films which get a limited release in LA and NYC at Christsmas and then go into general release in January, they just changed the time line a bit.
I'm not convinced WOM is a thing anymore during COVID, but they're welcome to give it a try.
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On 11/24/2021 at 5:28 PM, Barnack said:
Not sure of the implication, look in the olds days red box most rented movies ranking:
2013:
1. Identity Thief
2. The Heat
3. World War Z
4. Flight
5. Olympus Has Fallen
6. Django Unchained
7. Grown Ups 2
8. White House Down
9. Here Comes the Boom
10. Now You See Me
2014:
1. "Captain Phillips"
2. "The Wolf of Wall Street"
3. "22 Jump Street"
4. "The Equalizer"
5. "Divergent"
6. "The Hunger Games: Catching Fire"
7. "Ride Along"
8. "Neighbors"
9. "Jackass Presents: Bad Grandpa"
10. "Tammy"The most from 2002 to 2012:
10. 'Rango'
9. 'The Proposal'
8. 'Zookeeper'
7. 'Bridesmaids'
6. 'Salt'
5. 'Jack and Jill'
4. '21 Jump Street'
3. 'Grown Ups'
2. 'Bad Teacher'
1. 'Just Go With It'I.E. no Spider-Man, Nemo, Shrek, Stars Wars, Batman, Avengers, etc... in there. Has you see it is a complete domination of Adam Sandler & Melissa McCarthy ( not too dissimilar to what play really big on Netflix and what Netflix tend to do the most now)
What people are ready to spend $1-2 to watch versus a night in theater is significantly different and ott SVOD is an extreme version of that, some long form content on youtube that make 10 millions views would not sell more than 10 ticket in theater. And by the same token movie with a worth it the price tag are seen before reaching red box by people interested by them. Translating views into some near direct BO equivalent would be total bs and the equivalent of saying that a (not has worst but....) compilation of the most popular video clips would have made 100 billions in theater , but that not what Neflix numbers are saying or anything they imply by them.
Has for Netflix ruining the cinematic experience and the prestige of the Oscars, it is pretty much already all done by now and maybe transferred a bit into Netflix need to save us from the franchise deluge of the rest of the Studios that installed itself
My point is one wonders how their original films garner so many viewers and yet nobody talks about them. There's a strange dissonance there, but perhaps it's simply due to the lack of effort it takes to hit Play. If the experience is less memorable, perhaps folks just aren't inclined to talk about it like they would watching Shang Chi in a theater. That's what I'm talking about. Where's the WOM if tens of millions are watching these movies?
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42 minutes ago, AJG said:
Watching Hollywood bow down and finally kiss the ring of Hastings and Sarandos has been fun.They booed Netflix at Cannes. Spielberg said they weren’t cinema. Now look at them.
I mean, they still haven't won the big prize. And very few Netflix movies have crossed over, implying their numbers are BS (supposedly Triple Frontier had 50 mil households viewing it...that's a 500-mil grosser at the box office!).
They support good filmmakers and produce some great movies, but until they figure out how to create WOM hits with movies outside of Bird Box, Extraction, and a few others, they're going to be the odd man out.
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TOP GUN MAVERICK/MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND THREAD | 126.7M 3-Day, 160.5M 4-Day. The biggest Memorial Day opening ever! | Doctor Strange 20.5M 4-Day, Bob's Burgers 14.8M
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This.
Netflix also has a crazy amount of debt. Add in the overspending and the lack of many new original series hits, outside of maybe 1 a year (Squid Game last year), and they're in a bit of trouble.