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51 minutes ago, dudalb said:
Times change.
We have to getused to lower numbers for most movies.
Streaming has taken a huge bite in theater attendence and it's permanent.
I have no doubt these same kind of discussions would have happened if the internet had existed when TV took away nearly half the theatrical audience circa 1950.
If this opens lower it has nothing to do with streaming.
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42 minutes ago, MyMovieCanBeatUpYourMovie said:
GOTG3 paying for the sins of Phase 4.
What the MCU needs much more than a massive box office hit that audiences are kind of meh on is to release some great films. Much more important that audiences love this -- and hopefully the start of a string of films that connect with audiences -- whenever and however they end up seeing it.
I feel like the negativity around Phase 4 is both warranted and unwarranted.
Warranted because no previous phase has had a movie as bad as Love & Thunder or with legs as poor as Quantumania.
Unwarranted because Phase 4 still had Shang Chi and No Way Home, runaway hits that were very well received.
But if Guardians grosses less than the second movie this weekend, it can't be denied...the shine is somewhat diminished for general audiences.
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Given how effective "this is the end" marketing campaigns typically are, there are only two explanations for the low tracking: superhero burnout is real OR the six year gap is one year too many.
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12 minutes ago, filmlover said:
With the very real looming threat of a possible almost total industry shutdown (due to the DGA and SAG-AFTRA contracts also expiring soon) in less than two months, one has to imagine there will be a lot of running around panicking over making sure that doesn't happen or else they really will have a complete crisis on their hands. Can forget about that fun Barbie press tour or the mega-star-studded Oppenheimer premiere, both of which the Internet is no doubt hoping for, if it comes to that.
There's a part of me that hopes SAG and DGA end up striking too, just to squeeze those CEOS even more.
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19 minutes ago, The Panda said:
Both of the doomerisms that AI is going to destroy the world and the AI homers are sounding quite silly in this thread imo. Both coming from a misunderstanding of what current AI models actually are, and what their current limitations are.
In context of the writers guild:
The risk is not that AI can outright replace the job of a writer, but that they'll be misused making it easier to worsen compensation for writers and worsen the quality of sceenplays. The point is to provide protections to ensure that AI is used appropriately as tool (which is potentially helpful for writing quality).
AI used inappropriately probably looks like base sections of a script being written by ChatGPT and then cleaned by a lower compensated writer. This would probably be used most often by a streamer trying to get cheap content produced to fill out their catalogue for a month. This results in more lower quality scripts and provides worse compensation / benefits for the writer. Premium projects probably wouldn't have the same level of AI contribution (at least not in their current state).
The above scenario isn't great, but it's a far cry from some of the scenarios y'all have brought up in this thread. Those read more like fearmongering to me, at least with the current state of the tech and my knowledge about how current AI models work.
Thank. You.
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Of course the stooge above has an Elon avatar.
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Fuck Netflix. They're a scourge on the industry.
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Zero marketing for this. I watch at least a movie a weekend and never saw the trailer.
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These movies are good for epic action and VFX, and so far these trailers utterly fail in that regard.
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17 hours ago, filmlover said:
It was made in 2021 and already has its MPA rating, so it's unlikely they sit on a finished-for-a-while movie even longer. It all depends on what Searchlight does: all they have for the rest of the year are Next Goal Wins and Magazine Dreams (likely to be dumped with no fanfare), so they must be deciding how they want its festival run to go since NGW is an obvious TIFF bow.
Fair points. Magazine Dreams would've been the one. Alas...
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2 hours ago, filmlover said:
Pretty much. Everything they're showing off here (that hasn't officially released their marketing to the public yet) is clearly going to be ready for this year.
In addition to the aforementioned lack of The Bikeriders or the already-dated Magazine Dreams (for obvious reasons), there was also no mention during the Disney panel of Yorgos Lanthimos' Poor Things even though that's been in the can for a while.
I could see Poor Things moving to '24 since it's not likely an Oscar play based on that premise. Then again, who knows these days.
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5 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:
Idk, more interesting than The Creator which feels like a title for some AppleTV+ miniseries.
The Creator is evocative. Instantly has the mind running towards something like Prometheus.
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The visuals in this look like grey desaturated ass compared to Bay's movies.
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3 hours ago, lorddemaxus said:
Booooo. The original title was better.
True Love is a terrible title for a scifi epic.
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Looks like a return to form after making the worst Marvel movie.
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2 hours ago, Pinacolada said:
Bummed/surprised by no mention of The Bikeriders on the slate in the Fall. It's definitely coming this year
Given the cast it's definitely going to be theatrical. Just no release window yet. Could be Fall, could be Winter.
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3 hours ago, dudalb said:
Ghostbusters Reboot says Hi!
Of course I think that the ultimate Horror comedy was made in 1976 by Mel Brooks with "Young Frankenstein"...
Ghostbusters is closer to science fiction than horror, particularly the reboot.
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I don't know about box office, but I always had a feeling this could be really good. Chandor doesn't miss.
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2 hours ago, ThomasNicole said:
No they weren´t, literally no one was expecting a good D&D movie watching those trailers because they was selling big action sequences and random jokes, but where the movie really shine was in the interaction between the characters and the humor dynamic between them
And while everyone who watches The Flash praises it and people are talking about the humor, the interactions, the heart ... what the trailer show was mostly gigantic action scenes, and plenty of people complain and seems to not really believe the movie is that good, this is the comparisson.
Like i said, hopefully the next one will focus on other things instead of mostly action, they have 2 whole months to make the marketing look as special as people who seen the movie describe.
The D&D trailers sucked, but the movie overperformed on opening weekend. So the problem wasn't the marketing, the problem is that even good word of mouth couldn't convince people to see a D&D movie.
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It's interesting to me how horror comedies always fail at the box office. I guess audiences either want to be scared or they want to laugh. But not both.
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25+ movies will gross over 100 mil. 28 or more would be a complete return to form.
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Never saw his earlier classics, as dysfunctional family schtick (and no other hook) didn't really interest me, but Moonrise Kingdom floored me and I'm excited for this one. I was initially pumped for French Dispatch until I heard it was an anthology. His choice of setting/story is often not up my alley, but this one certainly is
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54 minutes ago, Krissykins said:
Let’s not move the goalposts when it suits you. 2.5x the production budget has always been a rule of thumb. There are other revenue streams, films don’t need to make back their marketing budgets as well from theatrical only. Plus the $100m standard is outdated due to social media.
We oughta stop taking budget rumors as gospel. It's 200 mil.
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24 minutes ago, dudalb said:
And what did we learn today, kids?
That predicting a movie's reception based on the early reviews and comments is a big mistake. The early reviews are all from small websites, which pretty much are "geek" sites and are prodispsed to like "geeky" films, and give a very skweered view of how a movie it going to be received.
Those geek sites have no business being a part of RT.
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WGA/SAGAFTRA Strike Discussion Thread | SAG Ratifies Contract
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