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7 hours ago, grim22 said:
Just because their trademarks were rejected doesn't mean the other guy's trademarks stand, if the word 'emojis' was in the public domain for a decade before the German guy 'trademarked' them.
IMHO
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2 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:
Reasonably speaking Apocalypse will have steady pulls. Next weekend it's in store for at least a 500-600 theater loss (your really small theaters). The weekend of Dory theaters are going to need screens, this is where the midsize range (8-12) starts pulling. Come Fourth of July there are 4 new releases and theaters need the screens, this is when you'll start seeing it get pulled from big multiplexes.
OK, I can see that. But since TMNT and Alice have such a big theater commitment, wouldn't those be pulled first for Dory? I agree Dory will be big. I also agree about the 4th of July, I just don't know how much XA can make between now and then.
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1 minute ago, WrathOfHan said:
Let's go through them one by one:
X-Men: The movie isn't hitting 180M, you're being way too generous on the legs. Theaters will pull it before it can get that far.
Alice: A 56% drop this weekend for this movie does not translate to a 2.7x. Again, theaters will pull it LONG before it can get there.
Angry Birds: The movie had a 51% drop this weekend, it won't rebound that much. Also, a 4.35x will not happen.
Neighbors: A nearly 57% drop this weekend does not translate into a 2.68x.
Cap: It's not dropping 65%.
Nice Guys: This is actually somewhat reasonable providing the drops the next few weeks are low.
Money Monster: Again, you're being way too high on the drops for this movie. You always expect big drops that never happen.
The Darkness: Yeah sure.
I'm a newbie to this, and pulling for this movie besides, but if they pull X-Men Apocalypse, which is still number one by a distance on Pulse and MT, what are they going to replace it with? Down line when something popular cycles in, sure. But until then, what would you do if you owned the theaters?
I'm hoping the fact that (to me) the movie was a ton better than the reviews made it sound will make it less front loaded than prior X-Men movies. I'm not betting on it, because I know how much I don't know. But I am hoping.
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1 hour ago, grim22 said:
Looking at this summer, the only non-franchise plays (they could get sequels, but it is pretty clear that a sequel was not planned while making the movie) which are wide releases are:
- Money Monster
- The Darkness
- The Nice Guys
- Me Before You
- Popstar
- Free State of Jones
- BFG
- The Shallows
- Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates
- Lights Out
- Bad Moms
- Nine Lives
- Most everything after August 5th i.e. the dump releases
12 movies in 3 months basically, almost all of them either horror, adult targeted dramas or R-rated comedies. The tentpole movies are pretty much all sequels all the time.
Very few options exist in the marketplace for either a non-sequel or a non "This is obviously going to be the first of a planned many, many movies if it is a hit". The issue is that every single movie cannot be the "Must see event of the summer", which leads to the underperformance of so many movies.
I'm rooting for Passengers. I wish it weren't coming out so close to Rogue One.
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2 hours ago, Captain Craig said:
So it'll take till Friday for XM:A to hit $100m domestic then.
Is $200m out of the question, even if it had to crawl to that mark.
2 hours ago, cannastop said:Yes, very much so.
2 hours ago, department store basement said:Yes.
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6 hours ago, cannastop said:
Not sure if you're being sarcastic.
I sure tried to find it on Imax and couldn't, before I was informed here that Disney had them for Alice by contract.
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2 minutes ago, angeldelmito said:
lmao at this commitment. i got 2 independence day trailers at my x-men screening
Lucky you! I got Bourne and Tarzan. Bourne looked pretty good. I'm reserving judgment on Tarzan.
Were the trailers good?
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12 minutes ago, mrqe93 said:
XMA number is pretty decent without Wolverine and original cast leading the movie. Alice 2 though... lol
But Disney has 4 movies in top 10! Pretty astonishing
I'm also surprised by all the steeper drops than expected. Piracy...?
not sure if serious...
But there are XA copies out there, I see them touted on twitter. I haven't clicked on any links to judge quality, though.
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3 hours ago, John Marston said:
looks like X-Men is up to $185,831,017 overseas. Is this good?
They still haven't opened in China. Won't until June 3. :/
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27 minutes ago, A District 3 Engineer said:
RED SPARROW has a set release date, Nov 10, 2017. Unconfirmed whether Jen and Francis are still attached pic.twitter.com/ySt8pKNt8I
— Lawgend ♥️ (@iFancyJLaw) May 29, 2016Francis spoke about it as recently as March (ish) saying it was probably the furthest of his projects along. I THINK he mentioned Jen but am not sure.
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10 minutes ago, A District 3 Engineer said:
There's not a release date for Marita yet.
Marita is kinda a spy one, too, and Sony wanted/wants her for this: http://pagesix.com/2016/04/10/jennifer-lawrence-front-runner-to-play-blonde-bond/
Way back when it was first announced some site (I think Variety) said they were aiming for 2017 for Marita. I think the date is clearly slipping, though.
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32 minutes ago, A District 3 Engineer said:
I'd prefer it if Aronofsky were doing it with Jen, tbh. And isn't Marita supposed to come out in 2017 as well? If this does, I kind of doubt that will happen since Jen will have her current Aronofsky project and then this one in 2017.
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20 minutes ago, Otakusai said:
Jennifer Lawrence headlining anything is an easy no look pass for me.
Talk about an un-engaging actress.
Lucky for her there are billions of people in this world, I guess.
And I disagree to the point where I find that statement humorous, fwiw.
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Yeah, I guess it is coming out Nov 2017.
I wonder if it was suddenly put 'on track' after Sony bought the rights to 'Blonde Bond' (the last goodnight) and said Jen was their first choice to play the part? It didn't really seem to be going anywhere before that, and there are definite similarities in the story lines.
Although, Fox's announcement that they are putting it out in Nov 2017 didn't specifically mention Jen, Francis Lawrence mentioned her being in his 'upcoming project' Red Sparrow, in a recent article.
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6 minutes ago, Frozen said:
I do t understand why this X-Men isn't doing better? It's one of the best films.
People don't know that unless they go see it. I'm hoping word of mouth gives it good legs but clearly the reviews hurt it.
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17 minutes ago, Frozen said:
I fucking loved X-Men. I don't know why the critics hated it? It's every bit as good as DOFP. It might even be my favorite.
But was there a credits scene? My mom made me leave.
Yes, and if you google it there are write ups of exactly what it means. My personal opinion is that you don't lose anything by having it described over seeing it play out. Others can chime in if they disagree.
I really liked the movie, too. I did have to suspend some disbelief on cgi but since we are starting the story with mutants, I figured suspending some disbelief was always going to be a given.
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4 minutes ago, Johnny Tran said:
If this happens a month ago it would have taken Snyder off the hook a bit. I mean people scoffing at $870M, what does that look like in comparison to $525M?
XA was only ever expected to do about 700M, so they aren't really directly comparable. No one was saying it would be the biggest of the year, going in.
I'll let Snyder off the hook as soon as Superman starts being Superman again, instead of an emo murderer.
But yeah, I'd say my comments on critics probably apply there as well. I just didn't personally care, there.
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More complaints about critics... Really?
Yep. I've only just started. Others got in before me. I have a ways to go, as I still consider them accurate.
I don't think there is a 'conspiracy' etc, but I do think a bunch of the lesser ones get a 'cool guys think' idea going and can't let up, and apply it across the board, making them kinda useless, and often damaging. "Two part movies are bad" "CBM's are passe except for [biggest blockbuster]". They really DO read more similarly than CBMs watch, imho. Your mileage is free to vary.
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2 minutes ago, AJG said:
Movie was boring. People stayed home.
Movie was fun, too many people read the reviews.
I'm getting CBM critic fatigue. They are so repetitive, it is almost like when you've read one, you've read them all.
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38 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said:
Just calm down, folks. We're still talking about predictions. The actuals might be higher or lower.
That being said, even if Apocalypse underperforms, that's just a tiny misfire. Fox still had a huge profit with Deadpool, Wolverine 3 is confirmed, Deadpool 2 is coming, X-Force is probably coming too.
Overseas grosses will probably be interesting now. I predict 420-440 million tops.
Well, this is interesting. All I can say is I found the movie to be a lot more entertaining than reviews led me to believe it would be, and it sounds like people who actually saw it - rather than those kept away by reviews, actually liked it and rated it well. I don't know how powerful word of mouth is vs reviews, but I guess we'll see. I'll wait to see today's numbers before I change my four day from around 90 million.
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4 hours ago, DAJK said:
Wait for OS numbers. The movie will still do 100DOM and 300OS, so 400WW on a 170 budget ain't a bomb.
I thought it was doing poorly overseas, as well.
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1 minute ago, MrPink said:
Power went out for my X Men Apocalypse showing about 20 minutes in due to storms
Ouch.
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By the way, if you see XA at Arclight, they have a follow up piece on the making of the movie, or at least they did at the Arclight I went to. Beyond that, the Bourne trailer was more interesting than I expected, and, sadly, the Tarzan trailer did not look as good as I had hoped. (I think they did the Apes badly, which, given how much they feature, is truly unfortunate.) Haven't given up on it yet.
I do wonder if ARCLIGHT has issues with the summer slate, though, since they announced in theater that they will be showing Jurrasic Park in June, and a bunch of other old block busters over the summer. https://www.arclightcinemas.com/en/locations/los-angeles/sherman-oaks/showtimes/?ItemId={4D3EE2D0-2337-4C56-A103-B5CA6FB924D9}
Maybe it's just a thing they do that I never noticed before.
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44 minutes ago, Chaz said:
? I saw DOFP at 7 pm.
I think you are the third person on this thread who has said that. Others are sure you all are wrong though, because some magazine has a line in it about DOFP having 'previews at 10'. Whatever. If someone wants to see a preview, imho they will see a preview, at 7 or 10.
I have a message in to a friend to see if she wants to go see it with me again tomorrow. I am positively hyped given the disparity between my experience and what the reviews say.
I'm not saying it will be the best movie anyone ever saw, but I thought it was a lot of fun, and I really like the characters.
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Posted · Edited by trifle
XA just opened to over 75M OW, shouldn't it be in that category? Or am I reading your list wrong?
edit....
OK, two day not three day weekends... got it.