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  1. 18 hours ago, A Roc in Time said:

     

    I think Dory missing was less to do with the sequel nature and more to do with the fact that WDAS had the brutal combo of Zootopia and Moana to go up against. 2016 was just a harsh, harsh year for the competition, and something like Dory which was very well crafted and enjoyable, but didn't have anything to really make it stand out, just fell a bit below the mark. If Dory was the Pixar entry for either 2015 or 2017, it would have pretty easily been nominated and been the likely favorite to win.

     

    (Conversely, if Coco or Inside Out ended up in 2016 instead, they'd probably knock something else off. Moana or The Red Turtle, probably.)

     

    Projecting 2018 is difficult because we don't know how much of 2017's slate was because of the weaker competition and how much was because of the rules change.

     

    Considering there aren't any WDAS or PIXAR original movies to be released in 2018, Incredibles 2 will get nominated even with just decent reviews. But I don't think it will be the de facto front-runner. Academy not taking sequels seriously most of the time is a real thing.

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  2. 16 hours ago, Rebeccas said:

    Right and it almost draws parallels to today, where TV is once again becoming big competition and the few big movies are giant blockbuster spectacles. Except instead of historical war/romances, it's superheroes and Star Wars. Interestingly, 2015 was another monster year where both JW and TFA broke the OW record within a few months of each other.

     

    The big difference though was the seismic shift in culture(and as a result in movie taste) that happened in the late 60s. My Fair Lady, Mary Poppins, Sound of Music were destroying box office records one after the other and 5 years later big musicals were flopping left and right and people were running to see The Graduate and Bonnie & Clyde. It's very difficult for such an abrupt shift in taste to happen in the near future.

     

    1 hour ago, dudalb said:

    Although "Lawrence of  Arabia" is considered David Lean's Masterpiece, "Dr Zhivago" was a much,much more successful film at the box office. it made Lean a rich man, able to only do projects he wanted to do.

     

    It might be his biggest box office hit but I doubt Zhivago gave him any kind of power he didn't already have. Lawrence of Arabia was also a huge hit, Bridge on river Kwai was the #1 boxoffice hit of its year and both of them won 7 oscars including BP/BD and were hailed as masterpieces. He already had as much power a director could have at the time.

     

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  3. I think they were the last giant hits of the old studio system before it crumble in the late 60s. Because of the emergence of TV in the early 50s, Hollywood invested in giant musicals and giant historical epics to bring audiences back and Sound of Music and Zhivago were probably the last 2 big ones of this trend. Which was more of the industry backbone than a trend. Overall admissions numbers kept falling but these few gigantic movies released as roadshows with premium ticket price were making the majority of the industry's money until they weren't and it crashed.

     

    Roadshow! The Fall of Film Musicals in the 60s is a pretty interesting book, it focuses primarily on musicals and Sound of Music but it also talks a bit about the state of the industry in the 60s and why that system crashed.

     

     

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  4. Incredibles 2 (and Wreck it Ralph 2) are most likely not winning. The academy has a hard on for PIXAR/Disney originals but kind of ignores the sequels. Monsters University didn't even get nominated and a year before it Brave with similar middling reviews and lower boxoffice won because it was original. Dory with 90+ RT and making a billion WW also didn't even make the nominations. 

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  5. Picture

    12 years a slave

    Moonlight

    The Shape of Water

    Argo

    The Artist

    Spotlight

    Birdman

    The King's Speech

     

    Director

    Cuaron

    Chazelle

    Del Toro

    Inarritu - Revenant

    Ang Lee

    Inarritu - Birdman

    Hazanavicious

    Hooper

     

    Actor

    Casey Affleck

    Dujardin

    DDL

    Leo

    McConaughey

    Firth

    Redmayne

    Oldman

     

    Actress

    Portman

    Blanchett

    Stone

    JLaw

    McDormand

    Brie Larson

    Juliane Moore

    Meryl

     

    Supp Actor

    JK Simmons

    Mahershala Ali

    Plummer

    Bale

    Christoph Waltz

    Mark Rylance

    Rockwell

    Leto

     

    Supp Actress

    Arquette

    Lupita

    Viola

    Hathaway

    Melissa Leo

    Octavia Spencer

    Vikander

    Alisson Janney

     

    Original screenplay

    Get Out

    Manchester By the Sea

    Django

    Her

    Spotlight

    Birdman

    Midnight in Paris

    King's Speech

     

    Adapted screenplay

    Social Network

    12 years a slave

    Moonlight

    Call me by your name

    The Big Short

    Argo

    The Descendants

    The Imitation Game

     

    Animation

    Inside Out

    Toy Story 3

    Zootopia

    Frozen

    Coco

    Big Hero 6

    Rango

    Brave

     

  6. 1.Raiders of the Lost Ark

    2.Jaws

    3.E.T.

    4.Close Encounters

    5.Artificial Intelligence

    6.Jurassic Park

    7.Temple of Doom

    8.Catch me If you Can

    9.Schindler's List

    10.The Last Crusade

    11.Minority Report

    12.Saving Private Ryan

    13.Munich

    14.Duel

    15.Lincoln

    16.War of the Worlds

    17.Empire of the Sun

    18.The Sugarland Express

    19.The Adventures of Tintin

    20.Bridge of Spies

    21.The Color Purple

    22.The Terminal

    23.The Lost World

    24.1941

    25.Hook

    26.War Horse

    27.Kingdom of Crystal Skull

    28.The BFG

    29.Always

    30.Amistad

     

    The top20 are all good movies. Pretty great track record, even though I've falling out of love with him for a decade now.

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  7. 1 hour ago, CoolioD1 said:

    also also 20CF are giving it the same release strategy they gave the revenant/hidden figures/the post the last few years so obviously they see potential there.

     

    I guess that's the only thing that makes it look like a possibility. But the project looking more commercial than your regular James Gray movie doesn't say much. Lost City of Z did look more commercial on paper too.

  8. 5 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

    Since preferential ballot:

     

    Hurt Locker and La La Land were favorites but not locks by any means

    Birdman, King's Speech, and Argo were heavy favorites but not quite mortal locks because of mitigating factors (Affleck's snub, Social Network/Boyhood having some legit wins under their belt)

    The Artist and 12 Years a Slave were mortal locks

    2015 and 2017 were genuine tossups with a third viable contender in the mix too. 

    I really don't see it that way at all. If the three big guilds all line up behind the same movie its ovah. I'm pretty sure we knew Hurt Locker/King's Speech/Argo/Artist/Birdman were winning before the ceremony. While 12 years a slave was a mortal lock at the start of the season but barely held on the prize by the end of it.

  9. 7 hours ago, Webslinger said:

    I came thisclose to jumping ship and going with Get Out as a trendy upset pick, but I can't think of a movie that won Best Picture after losing PGA, DGA, and SAG Ensemble. I'm still not ruling it out as a possible upset (seems crazy to do so with the level of uncertainty in this season), but I don't have the balls to call the win.

     

    Moonlight did it just last year.

     

    I generally agree that Get Out is pretty close to wishful thinking atm. It definately has more of a shot than Lady Bird though. But I'm seeing 3B taking this without breaking a sweat. 

  10. 3 hours ago, Jake Gittes said:

    Everyone is repeating themselves and so will I: Tarantino has done plenty of scenes throughout his entire filmography where the violence was mostly or entirely off-screen. And in those cases it happened to fictional characters. Seriously, where exactly this did image of him as someone whose every movie is a tasteless bloodbath come from? 

     

    "Is tarantino's violence glorified/unnecessary/appropriate?" has been a conversation ever since Reservoir Dogs and comes up every time he makes a movie because his movies have been always on the mainstream's radar even the not so succesfull ones. And Tarantino himself being a celebrity in a way that most directors arent (even the ones with bigger BO power like Nolan or Cameron) only makes the conversation bigger. Also many of the most iconic moments of his filmography being full of violence only help that narrative. 

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  11. 45 minutes ago, a2knet said:
    This could have a 54-46% dom-os split with 650-550 (1.2b ww). Unique for a CBM. Wondy was nearly 50-50 with 50.2-49.85 dom-os.

    I think it's easily going over Ragnarok/Homecoming OS considering it opened on par or higher than them in almost every market till now. And despite earlier concerns about China performance, it looks to be heading in SMH-TR ballpark there at a minimum based on pre sales.

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  12. As long as the big names in the cast stay put, the project and Tarantino will be fine. He was always gonna get some heat for the Weinstein connection whenever he released his first movie post-scandal and the movie might be controversial itself (like every other Tarantino movie) but he still have a big audience. When there are movie stars in his movies GA eats it up, when there aren't the budgets are adjusted down and his post-Pulp Fiction following is enough to make them profitable. Death Proof, his only flop , could even be profitable if not for the ill-conceived Grindhouse release strategy.

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