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The trailer made it feel like Inherent Vice set in the present. It could be a good movie but I dont see the mainstream appeal at all.
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16 hours ago, Rebeccas said:
Right and it almost draws parallels to today, where TV is once again becoming big competition and the few big movies are giant blockbuster spectacles. Except instead of historical war/romances, it's superheroes and Star Wars. Interestingly, 2015 was another monster year where both JW and TFA broke the OW record within a few months of each other.
The big difference though was the seismic shift in culture(and as a result in movie taste) that happened in the late 60s. My Fair Lady, Mary Poppins, Sound of Music were destroying box office records one after the other and 5 years later big musicals were flopping left and right and people were running to see The Graduate and Bonnie & Clyde. It's very difficult for such an abrupt shift in taste to happen in the near future.
1 hour ago, dudalb said:Although "Lawrence of Arabia" is considered David Lean's Masterpiece, "Dr Zhivago" was a much,much more successful film at the box office. it made Lean a rich man, able to only do projects he wanted to do.
It might be his biggest box office hit but I doubt Zhivago gave him any kind of power he didn't already have. Lawrence of Arabia was also a huge hit, Bridge on river Kwai was the #1 boxoffice hit of its year and both of them won 7 oscars including BP/BD and were hailed as masterpieces. He already had as much power a director could have at the time.
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I think they were the last giant hits of the old studio system before it crumble in the late 60s. Because of the emergence of TV in the early 50s, Hollywood invested in giant musicals and giant historical epics to bring audiences back and Sound of Music and Zhivago were probably the last 2 big ones of this trend. Which was more of the industry backbone than a trend. Overall admissions numbers kept falling but these few gigantic movies released as roadshows with premium ticket price were making the majority of the industry's money until they weren't and it crashed.
Roadshow! The Fall of Film Musicals in the 60s is a pretty interesting book, it focuses primarily on musicals and Sound of Music but it also talks a bit about the state of the industry in the 60s and why that system crashed.
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Incredibles 2 (and Wreck it Ralph 2) are most likely not winning. The academy has a hard on for PIXAR/Disney originals but kind of ignores the sequels. Monsters University didn't even get nominated and a year before it Brave with similar middling reviews and lower boxoffice won because it was original. Dory with 90+ RT and making a billion WW also didn't even make the nominations.
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12 years a slave
Moonlight
The Shape of Water
Argo
The Artist
Spotlight
Birdman
The King's Speech
Director
Cuaron
Chazelle
Del Toro
Inarritu - Revenant
Ang Lee
Inarritu - Birdman
Hazanavicious
Hooper
Actor
Casey Affleck
Dujardin
DDL
Leo
McConaughey
Firth
Redmayne
Oldman
Actress
Portman
Blanchett
Stone
JLaw
McDormand
Brie Larson
Juliane Moore
Meryl
Supp Actor
JK Simmons
Mahershala Ali
Plummer
Bale
Christoph Waltz
Mark Rylance
Rockwell
Leto
Supp Actress
Arquette
Lupita
Viola
Hathaway
Melissa Leo
Octavia Spencer
Vikander
Alisson Janney
Original screenplay
Get Out
Manchester By the Sea
Django
Her
Spotlight
Birdman
Midnight in Paris
King's Speech
Adapted screenplay
Social Network
12 years a slave
Moonlight
Call me by your name
The Big Short
Argo
The Descendants
The Imitation Game
Animation
Inside Out
Toy Story 3
Zootopia
Frozen
Coco
Big Hero 6
Rango
Brave
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1.Raiders of the Lost Ark
2.Jaws
3.E.T.
4.Close Encounters
5.Artificial Intelligence
6.Jurassic Park
7.Temple of Doom
8.Catch me If you Can
9.Schindler's List
10.The Last Crusade
11.Minority Report
12.Saving Private Ryan
13.Munich
14.Duel
15.Lincoln
16.War of the Worlds
17.Empire of the Sun
18.The Sugarland Express
19.The Adventures of Tintin
20.Bridge of Spies
21.The Color Purple
22.The Terminal
23.The Lost World
24.1941
25.Hook
26.War Horse
27.Kingdom of Crystal Skull
28.The BFG
29.Always
30.Amistad
The top20 are all good movies. Pretty great track record, even though I've falling out of love with him for a decade now.
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I'm here for horror auteur Jim from the Office
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On 2/3/2018 at 3:11 AM, slambros said:
I think we're about to enter a new era of movie musicals. And I couldn't be more excited.
After the back to back huge success of La La Land and Greatest Showman it makes sense for studios to give the genre a try beyond the broadway tested hits.
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Sopranos is a mastepiece and David Chase is someone who never gave a shit about fandom opinions or fan service but it's still a prequel.
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1 hour ago, CoolioD1 said:
also also 20CF are giving it the same release strategy they gave the revenant/hidden figures/the post the last few years so obviously they see potential there.
I guess that's the only thing that makes it look like a possibility. But the project looking more commercial than your regular James Gray movie doesn't say much. Lost City of Z did look more commercial on paper too.
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I really don't see how a James Gray sci-fi movie is gonna be an oscar thing. Stranger stuff has gotten in the BP lineup this decade, but it's still a James Gray movie.
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If this has Jungle Book reviews/WOM mayyybe its going slightly over 300m at best. But the 400m DOM and 1 billion WW predictions are completely insane imo.
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5 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:
Since preferential ballot:
Hurt Locker and La La Land were favorites but not locks by any means
Birdman, King's Speech, and Argo were heavy favorites but not quite mortal locks because of mitigating factors (Affleck's snub, Social Network/Boyhood having some legit wins under their belt)
The Artist and 12 Years a Slave were mortal locks
2015 and 2017 were genuine tossups with a third viable contender in the mix too.
I really don't see it that way at all. If the three big guilds all line up behind the same movie its ovah. I'm pretty sure we knew Hurt Locker/King's Speech/Argo/Artist/Birdman were winning before the ceremony. While 12 years a slave was a mortal lock at the start of the season but barely held on the prize by the end of it.
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21 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:
Fourth year in a row where Best Picture is not a lock going into the ceremony, and second time in three years where it is a genuine toss up.
Third. Birdman was 100% locked after sweeping the guilds.
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7 hours ago, Webslinger said:
I came thisclose to jumping ship and going with Get Out as a trendy upset pick, but I can't think of a movie that won Best Picture after losing PGA, DGA, and SAG Ensemble. I'm still not ruling it out as a possible upset (seems crazy to do so with the level of uncertainty in this season), but I don't have the balls to call the win.
Moonlight did it just last year.
I generally agree that Get Out is pretty close to wishful thinking atm. It definately has more of a shot than Lady Bird though. But I'm seeing 3B taking this without breaking a sweat.
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3 hours ago, Jake Gittes said:
Everyone is repeating themselves and so will I: Tarantino has done plenty of scenes throughout his entire filmography where the violence was mostly or entirely off-screen. And in those cases it happened to fictional characters. Seriously, where exactly this did image of him as someone whose every movie is a tasteless bloodbath come from?
"Is tarantino's violence glorified/unnecessary/appropriate?" has been a conversation ever since Reservoir Dogs and comes up every time he makes a movie because his movies have been always on the mainstream's radar even the not so succesfull ones. And Tarantino himself being a celebrity in a way that most directors arent (even the ones with bigger BO power like Nolan or Cameron) only makes the conversation bigger. Also many of the most iconic moments of his filmography being full of violence only help that narrative.
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It's definately making LLL money or more in Japan.
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2 minutes ago, a2knet said:
675 dom + 625 os = 1.3b ww (52-48% dom-os split) is the narrowest the split will get i guess
It could go higher than that if China overperforms beyond the usual superhero range of 100-120m.
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45 minutes ago, a2knet said:This could have a 54-46% dom-os split with 650-550 (1.2b ww). Unique for a CBM. Wondy was nearly 50-50 with 50.2-49.85 dom-os.
I think it's easily going over Ragnarok/Homecoming OS considering it opened on par or higher than them in almost every market till now. And despite earlier concerns about China performance, it looks to be heading in SMH-TR ballpark there at a minimum based on pre sales.
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That Sat number is unreal, especially after an inflated OW. Finally saw it last night and it deserves all the money coming its way. Coogler and MBJ are the future of Hollywood.
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it almost stayed flat from Valentine's Day OD? WTF
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As long as the big names in the cast stay put, the project and Tarantino will be fine. He was always gonna get some heat for the Weinstein connection whenever he released his first movie post-scandal and the movie might be controversial itself (like every other Tarantino movie) but he still have a big audience. When there are movie stars in his movies GA eats it up, when there aren't the budgets are adjusted down and his post-Pulp Fiction following is enough to make them profitable. Death Proof, his only flop , could even be profitable if not for the ill-conceived Grindhouse release strategy.
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looks interesting but with Soderbergh's experimental stuff it has been 50/50 for me. It could be a good movie but just as easily could be as laughable as Full Frontal or The Good German. Bergh doesn't care, he 'll have a new movie out before the year is over.
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Also changed my vote to Greatest Showman but it's a tie with Jumanji. Even if they're start dropping more than 15% and 30% any weekend now their multipliers will be out of this world.
Best Animated Feature 2018 - Predictions
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Considering there aren't any WDAS or PIXAR original movies to be released in 2018, Incredibles 2 will get nominated even with just decent reviews. But I don't think it will be the de facto front-runner. Academy not taking sequels seriously most of the time is a real thing.