ChrisTelclear
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3 hours ago, sfran43 said:
It's international holds have been impressive.
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Keep in mind if you cancel your subscription you are banned for a period of time. Not sure what that is.
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2 hours ago, Nova said:
I hate 3D and don't really waste money on IMAX so I'm good with just 2D.
Im definitely gonna get it. Just deciding if I want to do the whole year or wait for them to go back to the monthly plan.
I concur, stick to the rules, I do. Just wanted to share what I knew so if you're tempted to try something you understand how it might be discovered by MP.
I got a monthly subscription, so I'm safe there, but I do understand some of the concerns raised, because when they go under they could leave everyone stranded, you'll never get that money back.
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10 hours ago, Nova said:
Like is it a pita to use and stuff but from what I've heard from BOT members, it's solid so I'm game.
I don't know if anyone has answered, but it's easy to use. Basically it's an inactivated debit card. You use the app to authorize the purchase, and they activate your card for 30 mins. Then you go to a kiosk and just use it like a credit card to pay for your ticket.
As for some of the workarounds, like using it to buy 3D tickets or IMAX and whatnot, just be careful. That transaction will require you going to a human ticketing agent, (who may give you a hard time, especially if it's AMC) to pay the difference. You should use cash to pay the delta, don't try to do a double transaction payment with another card. I think there's a way for them to tell you did that, at least that's what I've heard.
A work around for blocked showings, like they did with Red Sparrow, is you can just select another movie that starts at roughly the same time, but when you go to the kiosk just select the movie you wanted and swipe. It has no idea what ticket you're buying. They have started a thing where they want you to submit a picture of your ticket stub to ensure you're not cheating, but they are notifying people by e-mail if they are selected to do that, it's a test right now.
There's also a chat feature that you can use if the showing you want isn't listed. They authorize the purchase manually. I've heard some people actually used that to buy Red Sparrow tickets, even though they were blocked on the app, if true I guess they don't do much analysis they just assume it's ok and activate.
Enjoy!
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7 hours ago, Dexter of Suburbia said:
Lammle are decent theaters. Good for watching independent movies.
I'm hoping they add Angelika and some of the other independents soon. That would be another way to build up slowly, work with smaller chains and show how you can move audiences to those theaters. At some point, if you don't go belly up first, you get to the stage where one of the big chains will talk to you, then you can start making some money.
I'm going to ride the wave until it crashes on shore. If I can get a year out of them I'll have made a good investment.
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18 minutes ago, Nova said:
Was thinking about getting this for the summer season since once my semester is over, I plan to make up the theater time I've missed at well the theaters. For those who have it, is it worth it? If not why not? Sorry I'm sure you guys have talked about this in the thread but I'm too lazy to scroll through everything. And I only trust BOT members with this stuff. Thanks in advance!
Absolutely. Even if you only go to 2 movies a month you're saving a ton of money, and seeing more movies! Do you like going alone though? That's been a problem for some, finding a buddy to go with that also has MP. I have one friend that has it so it works really well for me. I will also go alone, if necessary.
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47 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:
But then the question remains: would a significant portion of those MP users see a movie without the service? I'm willing to bet at least 40-50% would, which further deflates MP's impact.
I think that may have been what MP was trying to establish when they blocked Red Sparrow. How many people went to something else? How many paid full price and went to see the movie anyway? I'm not sure how they planned to find out that information, I would assume they are working with data analysts to find patterns.
But you can see the mindset of MP users, I've seen a few movies only because I was in my free MP zone, and I've also seen movies multiple times because if it. Neither would've happened without it, I don't have that much money. The poster above said they have seen their movies for the year, and the rest is "gravy". That's how a lot of MP users think, and it's that mindset which will translate into a bigger impact on theater attendance for a given movie. This why MP is trying to expand it's user base by any means possible, because they need to find a way to make an impact or they will be dead. They need a partnership with theaters, and with movie studios or this won't work. I'm not sure what they number is, maybe 10% across the board, not sure.
One thing I do know, I'm paying every month, and I'm going to one movie if it kills me, because I don't like paying for nothing. If that increases overall attendance for MP users by say 5 movies a year, what is that impact?
One area I think MP needs to find a way to tap into is seniors. They attend movies a lot during the day, and really would be big users of MP if the technology wasn't so scary to them. I'd be hitting up a partnership with AARP if I were them, it's a gold mine.
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5 hours ago, The Mad Panda said:
That means at most around 10 million or so if Black Panther’s BO is from MoviePass. Not insignificant, but nowhere near enough for them to have bargaining power.
I don't think they are targeting the tentpoles, I think they are trying to establish themselves as the savior of the mid-budget/indie movie, which are most of the movies in theaters. Look at some of the titles it's helped the most; Game Night, Red Sparrow, Annihilation, The Post, 3 Billboards. When you look at the total number of tickets sold vs. the percentage sold from MP, that tells you the real story of the impact.
For Red Sparrow for instance:
tickets sold via MP: 300000
Total tickets sold: 4797900
Percentage via MP: 6% or $2.7M at the box office. (and that's after they blocked Red Sparrow on opening weekend in their little experiment, it might have been considerably higher had they not done that)
For Game Night:
tickets sold via MP: 500000
Total tickets sold: 6621400
Percentage via MP: 7.5% or $4.5M at the box office.
These aren't huge numbers, but they are significant to a lower budget movie. Black Panther was only about 1.4% of total sales.
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1 hour ago, Thematrixfilm said:
Sherlock Gnomes, Unsane, and Midnight Sun could have directed more traffic away from Game Night on Friday and Saturday. Also, Fifty Shades is still playing at 500+ locations in its seventh weekend. I think week #8 is when second run discount cinema locations are added.
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Winchester is at 90 locations and lost one this weekend in its eighth weekend. Assuming second run locations did in fact come into effect for Winchester this weekend, then Winchester probably lost about 75% of all the theaters it had for last weekend at regular theaters, then added in the new second run theaters which packed more purchases per dollar, and it was able to duplicate last week's total. (but with a larger amount of exposure)
None of those are adult comedy's. Sherlock Gnomes?! How would that take traffic away from Game Night?! Totally different audience.
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1 hour ago, slambros said:
Pacific Rim: Uprising did a little better than expected, but it's got an uphill battle if it wants to seem legitimate. This would feel like a better gross if the budget wasn't as inflated.
Black Panther simply isn't dying, and that's an exciting thing for sure; I do wish the grosses had been just a little more evenly distributed, but Black Panther is a film that really deserves its massive success.
This is an outstanding hold for I Can Only Imagine, one that reminds me of the leg-driven success of War Room in 2015. I believe in the possibility that there were more children watching this than Sherlock Gnomes this weekend.
Speaking of Sherlock Gnomes, I think the film was very lucky to break $10,000,000. I think the film can have a little longevity until April 13th when the triple threat of Rampage, Sgt. Stubby, and Isle of Dogs shoos it away.
I don't think Tomb Raider grossed enough this weekend to justify the amount of theaters it has (which is a higher amount of theaters than Pacific Rim: Uprising). I think Tomb Raider will likely be losing a fairly large amount of theaters next weekend, but I'm expecting it to have a slower drop-off period than something like Assassin's Creed or Warcraft. I think it can still leg its way past $60 million.
I'm starting to want A Wrinkle in Time to make it to $100M domestic but I think the chance is becoming a little slim at this time. Its status as a family film might give it a little more longevity, and I don't really think theaters are going to be willing to drop it too quickly. To make it to $100M, the film needs less than $30M. Maybe it can pull a Maze Runner or a Passengers or an Edge of Tomorrow. Who knows.
Love, Simon has a much better hold than many of the other film this time around. It'll still be around for a few weeks.
I'm a little disappointed at how low Paul, Apostle of Christ debuted, but if the OW stays above $5M, that means the film made its production budget back in the weekend alone. The film will undoubtedly be a popular choice among the elderly folks who see movies on weekdays, so this can't be as much of a financial disaster as Samson was.
Game Night surprised me. I thought it would be dropping off the top ten, but its hold is magnificent. This film deserves it, so bravo!
And at #10, we have Midnight Sun, attempting to make the same clutch move that Forever My Girl and Every Day made to get a #10 spot. This romance genre has really gone off the deep end.
I'm disappointed about Unsane. The film was the only film releasing wide this weekend that had a fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and it still managed to fall flat on its face just before the Top Ten finish line. That #10 slot that Midnight Sun is stubbornly holding on to rightfully belongs to Unsane. But at least the film made a profit, right?
I guess there is a big drop-off for films like Peter Rabbit when the majority of their audience has already seen it. But the thing that matters the most is that it made $100M when many of the other films couldn't.
Red Sparrow is $9M away from doubling its budget worldwide. There is an audience that's really driving this film during the weekdays, so I think it'll have no problem doubling its budget worldwide.
I don't think my Strangers: Prey at Night over Kidnap club is going to work out. There's no way it'll secure $8-$9M more than it already has.
That's a very good amount for Isle of Dogs to be receiving on an OW with on 27 theaters. I think Wes Anderson fans can really drive the film forward to a respectable gross. Plus, all the kids being interested in this film's big standee in the auditoriums that showcases all of the dogs can't hurt its gross.
The Death of Stalin did good to gross $1M this weekend, and I can certainly envision IFC being more adventurous by trying to expand this semi-wide while they can.
And I'm not sure if it's a normal occurrence or not for films going from wide to platform after virtually two months' time, but Winchester only had a 0.2% drop this weekend. Not that it really matters at this point.
Game Night isn't really all that surprising if you realize you're looking at the only adult comedy in wide release for the past month. There's no competition.
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47 minutes ago, Jake Gittes said:
It'll do 2 or 3 million here at best.
Really? mother! made $2.5M, I would think this would do much better that nightmare.
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9 minutes ago, sfran43 said:
Still not an impressive WW gross considering it's $69M budget before P&A
Still awaiting releases in France, Japan and Russia.
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On 3/20/2018 at 4:11 PM, HesAPooka said:
So looks to be heading for 49-50m domestic.
I think that depends on how long Fox sticks with it in theaters.
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53 minutes ago, TombRaider said:
was this originally made to be a franchise?
The first one works as a standalone movie. My guess is they were hedging their bets as to whether it would be successful enough and made it so it worked either way.
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55 minutes ago, harrycaul said:
The mystery factor on TR is that it opened notably bigger in China than domestic.
The same thing is going to happen next weekend with Pacific Rim.
And then we'll get all kinds of thinky thought pieces written about what it all means that China can open action movies that the US can't.
It's really pretty simple. Two words, "Rotten Tomatoes". The US public has come to rely on that shit site far too much to decide if they should go to see a movie. The studios need to come up with an effective strategy to minimize the damage from RT. You need look no further than TR, and also Red Sparrow, to see that. Sparrow is doing good business overseas, and it has a double albatross here, the RT score, and the "exploitation" police.
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8 minutes ago, straggler said:
It very clearly depicted what was going on as a bad thing and in no way condoned it. It was a classic lifeboat situation. Good scifi makes us think about the human condition, and that involves placing characters in unusual situations. There is a big difference between depicting and condoning. What contemporary film critics can no longer handle is a film that depicts something deplorable but that then does not turn it into a heavyhanded lecture, that leaves the moral unpacking to the audience which is more than capable of handling it. If Paths of Glory were made today, the court martial scene would have to be like A Few Good Men with Kirk Douglas's character shouting "I want the truth!." LOL. Was Passengers underwritten? Yes. Could it have been better? Sure. But the idea that it did not know what it was depicting is wrong. It just did not become a morality play.
This is exactly right, well said. What offended critics is that Aurora forgives him and they live happily every after. He didn't pay a price for his very human mistake. I'll also add that many critics intentionally misrepresented what was shown in the movie in their reviews. They called it "Dape Rape", which it was not "Stockholm Syndrome" which it's clearly not, they demonized the movie to a level I've never seen before. To this day I'll see a random tweet saying these words. "Just watched Passengers, it was a good movie, I don't see what the problem was with critics".
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10 hours ago, straggler said:
Saw this again. Really terrific movie. You just have to know the tempo of the film and what it is trying to accomplish. And you pick up details that you missed. It is a rich film, and hard to take in on one sitting.
I've seen it twice, big Jlaw stan here, but yeah, I wasn't enamored of it the first time. But when I watched it the second time, just like you said, things cleared up for me, I understood it better, and she's just great in the role.
I suspect, like many of her recent movies, it's going to do very well in the secondary market as people slowly discover it through others who've seen it and liked it. Passengers did amazing in the secondary market, it just needed to distance itself from those misguided charges of date rape and stalking the critics kept harping on so people would give it a chance.
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9 hours ago, Thematrixfilm said:
I Can Only Imagine
...how bad it is.
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14 hours ago, AndyK said:
Well, I supposed somebody had to say it.
Great actress, but she's not picking the right movies.
There are a couple of things going on here. One is it was going to be tough to penetrate this market with Black Panther sucking up all the attention. The fact is, it opened at #2, with mixed reviews, and it's an old school spy thriller that wasn't going to appeal to the under 25 crowd which has been raised on Jason Boring and Mission Improbable. What surprised me after I saw it was that Fox didn't insist in upping the action in this, (and not only the ass-kicking kind of action, if you know what I mean). I've read the books, and there is an opportunity for a couple of kick ass action sequences, and sex scenes, that would've perked up the proceedings a bit.
IMO it's doing ok for what it is, and I'd argue that the only reason it is doing this well is because of Jennifer Lawrence.
It also cost too much, and it's mostly because her salary is in the stratosphere for this level of budget. The speculation is it was $15-$20M from what I read, and the movie was $70M to make. She was over 25% of the budget if she got $20M. If she wants to do these mid-level budgeted movies she needs to take less up front salary. But hey, if Fox is willing to pay, you take the money and run.
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1 hour ago, el sid said:
No, but it still has a lot of time.
MT looks almost the same at the moment:
#1 BP 25.8%
#2 Wrinkle 20.6%
#3 ICOI 5.7% - that it even increased could speak for the mentioned free shows or ...
#4 Red Sparrow 5.7%
#5 Peter Rabbit 5.7%Latest
#1 BP 25.7%
#2 Wrinkle 20.3%
#3 Red Sparrow 6.2%
#4 Peter Rabbit 5.7%#5 ICOI 5.5% - that was a quick fade What's the story with this? Free previews?
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On 3/9/2018 at 9:15 PM, commendable said:
So whats the list of stupid shit that movie pass does? I see that they are making you upload ticket stubs. For what reason? Also I hear that you can't subscribe after cancelling for like 3 months.
They have people frauding them. They want some people to prove they bought the ticket. I guess you could activate it, and then use it nearby to buy something else. It's just an activated debit card, it doesn't really know what you're buying. Another thing people can do, if MP is blocking a showing, like they did for Red Sparrow when it opened, you can just selected another movie starting at the same time, get it activated, then go to the kiosk and select the blocked movie. It defeats the block.
I don't think this will be a long term solution for them. Once they grow to a certain size they'd go broke hiring people to check out the pictures of the stubs, unless they develop some AI that can read it for them.
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On 2/11/2018 at 9:23 AM, upprdeck said:
It really isnt that hard to stop this from happening though as long as the transactions are being properly listed by the movie place. For large chains they just need to work with them to make sure it is happening.. they should be lumping transactions as the same type anyway or the theatre cant track purchases.
Problem is the chains don't want to work with them. MoviePass has made a few missteps, and one was they should've talked to the chains before starting and got some, or at least one, of them on board. They could've customized the service for each chain and just kind of be a service provider. This is more complicated than the Netflix model, Netflix just has to work with the content providers, MoviePass has to work with multiple entities.
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1 hour ago, Blaze Heatnix said:
Audience Score for Red Sparrow: 57%
Audience Score for Death Wish: 82%
Yeah, that 57 is up from 55 earlier, and it will probably continue to rise.
The 82 for DW is probably because only people who saw and liked the originals are going to see it, and it's basically delivering what they expected. However, the Trump supporters are very active, they had inundated both her, and the movies, hashtag last night trying to rally people around Death Wish. These are people that during the election would go to online polls and flood them with votes supporting positions of Trump. So it's entirely possible they are attacking the review sites, RT is the biggest, then IMDb.
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24 minutes ago, Marcus Cato said:
You have to wonder how much last nights MoviePass problem with Red Sparrow affected that number. It was fairly widespread.
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Easter Weekend Thread: Official Weekend Actuals: RPO $41.8M ($53.7M 4-Day), Acrimony $17.2M, BP $11.5M, ICOI $10.4M, PRU $9.4M, IOD $2.9M, GND3 $2.7M
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Why the hell are we talking about Passengers?!