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    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    1 hour ago, Morieris said:

    When does the real embargo break? Interested in the more balanced reactions.

    Looks like it's the 15th, probably going to be 9am PST/12pm EST is my guess.

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    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    First reactions are up!

    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    4 hours ago, Mojoguy said:

    I hate that this is going to D+ after 30 days which is way too soon, but Disney gotta sell subscriptions.:whosad:

    That, Spider-Man, and Sing are probably going to eat into its legs (what with the massive TC drops I'm expecting by the holidays). I was thinking about it this morning, and this might actually end up being the most front-loaded WDAS film of all time.

     

    Not that I'm helping towards the cause, per se. The 30-day window has made me lose any urgency to see this in theatres, and I'm not really in a rush to go back to theatres after Free Guy.

    Eternals | Marvel Studios | Nov 5 2021 | Magnum-Opus by Oscar winner Chloe Zhao - Marvel's first rotten movie | Dips into the 40s on RT, B CinemaScore

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    7 hours ago, nguyenkhoi282 said:

    🍅 CRITICS CONSENSUS

    "An ambitious superhero epic that soars as often as it strains, Eternals takes the MCU in intriguing -- and occasionally confounding -- new directions."

     

    LOL what's next, "soars less often than it strains"?

     

    "An ambitious superhero epic that strains as often as it soars, Eternals takes the MCU in confounding -- and occasionally intriguing -- new directions."

     

    Not gonna lie, the most enjoyable part about the Tomatometer taking the journey it has is seeing the Critics Consensus blurb change each time. Nothing drastic, just small albeit noticeable changes, and I can't help but giggle each time.

     

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    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    1 hour ago, Eric Atreides said:

    Review embargo lifts this Wednesday according to Matt Neglia

    That's pretty early, a full 3 weeks before release. I know we just saw what happened with Eternals, but I can't imagine Disney lifting the embargo super early is going to backfire on them for the second time this year, let alone in two weeks, so I'm expecting good things to come from this.

    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    I know that trailer views don't properly correlate with box office, but I can't be the only one surprised that the official trailer on the WDAS channel already has over 24 million views despite being up for less than three weeks. I don't think Frozen II's September trailer got there that quickly, and none of the September trailers for Moana, Ralph Breaks the Internet or Coco got there before release either (Ralph is still under 10 million, and Coco is under 4 million).

     

    Also, the Japanese poster is out now.

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    Encanto | November 24, 2021 | Walt Disney Animation Studios | Byron Howard and Jared Bush direct, music by Lin-Manuel Miranda

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    If I'm impatient enough then I'll make an attempt to catch this in theatres like I did with Shang-Chi. But since this seems to be free on D+ by Christmas (it would be cruel of them to charge extra for a "gift"), it's going to be interesting to see how big this gets on D+.

     

    Curious to see how this legs out in theatres though. Most WDAS Thanksgiving releases still had a fair bit left in the tank after day 30, but the current December slate is so crowded it was probably going to cut into the gross regardless, but we'll see.

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    Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings | Marvel Studios | 92% RT & 99% VA Score | ONLY IN THEATERS Sep 3 2021

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    Just now, TwoMisfits said:

     

    I only have to wait 45 days??...yeah, that's the final info I needed...

    I kind of feel the same way here. Outside of the Avengers films, I usually took my sweet time to see most Marvel movies in theatres pre-pandemic (and I still haven't seen Black Widow yet). So if I'm only waiting an additional 45 days to see Shang-Chi on Disney+, then I honestly wouldn't mind the extra wait, especially since it's only gonna be 12 days after Black Widow shows up sans PA.

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    Cruella | Disney | May 28 2021 | Disney+ premiere access hybrid release

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    Decided to take a peek at Critics Choice before the embargo went up:

    Cruella 81/100
     

    Given how the previous live-action remake things from Disney did, this is on the higher end? If I had to wager a guess, this will probably be fresh...

    Film RT Critics MC CC RT Audience
    Maleficent 54% (5.7) 56 73 70% (3.8)
    Cinderella 83% (7.2) 67 84 78% (3.9)
    The Jungle Book 94% (7.7) 77 88 86% (4.1)
    Alice Through the Looking Glass 29% (4.5) 34 58 48% (3.2)
    Beauty and the Beast 71% (6.7) 65 84 80% (4.0)
    Christopher Robin 72% (6.2) 60 71 83% (4.1)
    Dumbo 46% (5.5) 51 70 48% (3.2)
    Aladdin 57% (5.9) 53 75 94% (4.6)
    The Lion King 52% (6.0) 55 77 88% (4.4)
    Maleficent: Mistress of Evil 39% (5.1) 43 63 95% (4.6)
    Mulan 72% (6.7) 66 80 48% (3.0)

    Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings | Marvel Studios | 92% RT & 99% VA Score | ONLY IN THEATERS Sep 3 2021

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    I enjoyed the trailer. Not my fantastically outstanding by any means, but it was enough to get me interested in the film. I'm more pumped about there being a live-action Asian superhero in Hollywood than anything, and it's something I would have loved to see growing up. That said, I do hope I'm not setting myself up for disappointment seeing as this is Disney's third big release in the span of a year with a predominantly Asian cast. Mulan was a bit of trainwreck, to put it lightly; with regards to Raya, I was able to catch that one a while back, and while I think it's a good movie, I was underwhelmed with how it handled SEA representation. Hopefully third time's the charm here, but what I'm seeing so far is exciting.

     

    As an aside, the teaser finally pushed me to start watching Kim's Convenience, and I'm honestly kicking myself for not seeing it sooner - so many things in the show that I can relate to a T

    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    13 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

    Yeah not only Raya, Soul too felt like nobody really knows about it until the WOM spread and since it was OTT release all the hype almost died in the week.

    If I'm being honest, I think Disney has been hoping that their animated releases were pretty reliant on WOM for the last several years. It's great when there's a large enough opening for it to spread, but when the WOM is fairly tepid, or in Raya's case, not enough people are seeing it in the first place, then it really doesn't do it any favours.

     

    I think Soul being an OTT release without PA helped it greatly with regards to getting the word out. It died out quickly, but having it as brand new release just pop up in the service is probably enough to pique the interest of anyone who logged onto the service that day, and Soul got far more promotion than most Disney+ releases, which probably helped a bit too.

    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    12 hours ago, El Squibbonator said:

    So, if the pandemic hadn't been a thing and this had gotten a regular theatrical release, how big of an opening weekend would it have most likely gotten? 

    I'm assuming the movie would have kept it's original November 25 date in that case, So it would have been a Thanksgiving opening with what I would guess to be $55M/$80M for the 3/5-day weekends and then leg out to $200-250M, if Moana, Coco and Ralph Breaks the Internet were any indication.

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    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    52 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

    How long did it take for Mulan to become free on Disney+?

     

    Do you guys expect Raya and BW to get the same treatment? 

    They've confirmed Raya will be free on Disney+ on June 4.

     

    If I'm being honest, 3 more months really isn't that long of a wait, but I've gotten used to seeing almost every WDAS film since Wreck-It Ralph in theatres within the first 3 weeks (I didn't catch Frozen until a month in, but I still managed to sneak in a viewing of Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen II on opening weekend just before finals), and I was really looking forward to seeing this at the nearest drive-in when they announced this was still coming to theatres, but that last part really didn't pan out.

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    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    2 hours ago, filmlover said:

    A handful of chains aren't showing the movie because Disney is still asking for their usual absurd terms despite the movie being available to watch at home the same day.

     

    That's here in the US at least. Not sure about everywhere else.

    It's even worse up here in Canada. Cineplex is far and away the biggest chain here with 164 theatres and none of them are showing Raya. The next two largest chains, Landmark and Imagine, are showing it but combined they only have 59 theatres (Landmark has 45, Imagine has 14) of which a handful are still closed, which to be honest, screws over Imagine far more than Landmark. Premier, a drive-in chain here, isn't showing it here either.

    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    36 minutes ago, El Squibbonator said:

    That's always been the conventional wisdom, but the success of Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse does seriously call it into question.

     

    As for Raya itself, the "action-movie" aspects were mostly played up by the early trailers. The later trailers, however, made it out to be a more generic "kid's" movie, complete with one-liners and fart jokes. The same thing actually happened with both Big Hero 6 and Moana. Their early trailers suggested they were more dramatic and action-oriented than they actually were, and the later trailers gave a more accurate depiction of the movie's tone. Frozen did the opposite--its first trailer made it out to be a goofy comedy, and only later did the advertising reveal it to be a musical with a fairly serious plot. 

    I don't really think that was the case with Big Hero 6 and Moana's early trailers. Big Hero 6's teaser is literally just a montage of Hiro struggling to put on Baymax's armour that's played for laughs, while Moana's arguably played up the musical aspects of the film more, while introducing Maui.

    I was going to say Zootopia hued closest since it's teaser sort of laid the groundwork for the main premise (even if it made Nick look more like the main character), but then I remembered the sloth trailer exist, so maybe not.

    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    9 minutes ago, cannastop said:

    jesus christ Raya and the Last Dragon is 114 minutes long


    that's the longest of any movie from WDAS or Pixar right

     

    edit: Nope, Cars from 2006 is longer lol.

    It says 112 minutes on Disney+ for me, and the closest theatre open to me has it at 108 minutes. I'm assuming the extra minutes are there to credit the dubs for the film. For Disney+ times, there's also Incredibles 2 at 118 minutes, The Incredibles at 115 minutes, and Ralph Breaks the Internet at 116 minutes. Ratatouille comes close at 111 minutes though.

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    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    1 hour ago, JjFit said:

    It’s a total shame that it just won’t be possible for Raya to match the Box-Office numbers of any of the other Disney Revival movies - However, it appears that Raya is continuing the Disney Revival streak of critical acclaim!

     

    Currently the movie is sitting at 96% on RottenTomatoes - I can’t wait to check out this movie over the weekend.

    I wouldn't say it's impossible to match any of their releases - it should at least be able to get past Winnie the Pooh's $50M worldwide. 

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    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    Critics Choice is up for Raya right now, and it's looking very good:

    Raya and the Last Dragon 93/100

    Here's the last 12 WDAS and Pixar films for reference:

    Film Critics Choice Film Critics Choice
    Meet the Robinsons 75 Cars 2 67
    Bolt 85 Brave 81
    The Princess and the Frog 85 Monsters University 79
    Tangled 84 Inside Out 93
    Winnie the Pooh 75 The Good Dinosaur 75
    Wreck-It Ralph 82 Finding Dory 89
    Frozen 88 Cars 3 66
    Big Hero 6 85 Coco 89
    Zootopia 91 Incredibles 2 88
    Moana 89 Toy Story 4 93
    Ralph Breaks the Internet 83 Onward 80
    Frozen II 79 Soul

    92

     

    As someone from SEA, I'm really looking forward to seeing this. Problem being though, most theatres are still closed in my immediate area, and the ones that are open don't seem to be playing Raya. So I'll probably be waiting quite a while to see this one.

    Pin on Sad fandom gifs

     

    Edit: I guess I should also mention Premier Access is no-go for me. Not really in the mood to shell out additional $35 for something for a service I'm already paying for. 

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    Raya and the Last Dragon | March 5, 2021 | Premier Access/Theater simultaneous release

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    17 minutes ago, DAJK said:

    All I'm saying is that I hope theaters are open in my province by March because no way am I giving Disney the satisfaction of 30 dollars to watch this by myself on my tiny little TV. 

    *$35 in Canada, which I also refuse to shell out (especially when Disney+ here is getting a pretty significant price hike) regardless of if this ends up being really amazing (I hope it is), I really hope Drive-Ins open up again in my province soon, although I feel like that's not going to happen.

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