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  1. 8 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

     

     

    Now you’re lying. 

     

    You said it was never tracking as low as $30m. I said it was. 

     

    It was.

     

    You were wrong. I provided proof. 

     

    1 hour ago, L Silverman said:

    That's just flat out incorrect.  Industry tracking was never as low as $30m.  Initial, long range tracking had Oceans 8 pegged at $45m.  Heading into this weekend, that estimate dropped to $35-40m.  Please provide a link to a reputable source (Hollywood Reporter, Variety, Deadline) that had numbers you're quoting.

    Industry tracking was never as low as $30m.  And Deadline backs me up. 

  2. 7 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

    You said I was lying that it was tracking at $30m and asked for sources. 

     

    You were wrong. I wasn’t lying. And I provided you with sources. Your own link says $30m too. 

     

    Apply pressure to your burn. 

    I said you were incorrect, not lying.  And you were, implying that the industry consensus at the time was that Oceans 8 would open at $30m which it was not.

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  3. 19 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

     

    Variety: “Ocean’s 8 Plotting $30 Million Box Office Opening Weekend”

     

    Link to Source VARIETY:

    :https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/variety.com/2018/film/news/oceans-8-box-office-tracking-sandra-bullock-cate-blanchett-1202814078/amp/

     

    ScreenRant: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/screenrant.com/oceans-8-opening-weekend-projection/amp/

     

    The Wrap:

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thewrap.com/oceans-8-one-summers-big-gambles-plots-steal-30-million-opening-weekend/amp/

     

    There are links to reputable sources you asked for, including Industry Trade Variety. You are incorrect.

     

     

    Anything else you want? 

     

    🙃🔥

     

    "Warner Bros./Village Roadshow’s gender swap all-star heist comedy Ocean’s 8 arrived on tracking this morning with industry projections indicating that the pic could open to $45M when it opens on June 8. Some tracking firms have the all femme pic at $30M,  but it will come as no surprise if Ocean’s 8 debuts at the level of Sony’s all-girl reboot Ghostbusters ($46M opening, $128.3M domestic, $229.1M WW)."

    https://deadline.com/2018/05/rihanna-anne-hathaway-oceans-8-box-office-opening-projection-1202393228/

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  4. 6 hours ago, Krissykins said:

    Industry tracking was initially $30-35m then upped to $33-38m this week and it still beat expectations.

     

    ”those people” will try, but Oceans 8 is nowhere near a flop or even a disappointment. It’s actually a hit. 

    That's just flat out incorrect.  Industry tracking was never as low as $30m.  Initial, long range tracking had Oceans 8 pegged at $45m.  Heading into this weekend, that estimate dropped to $35-40m.  Please provide a link to a reputable source (Hollywood Reporter, Variety, Deadline) that had numbers you're quoting.

  5. 2 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

    Number 17:

     

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    The Evil Dead (1981)

     

    Director: Sam Raimi

    Box Office: 29,4 Million

     

    Story: 6/10

    Tension: 8/10

    Atmosphere: 10/10

    Rewatchability: 9/10

     

     

    Plot Synopsis:

     

    You all shoud know the drill. Five students go to a remote cabin in the woods and they just shoudnt have gone there lol.

     

    The original Evil Dead is just remarkable. On the one hand, yes, it really shows its age. The performances are...how should i put this...well, they are performances. And watching the english version, i just noticed how hilariously afwul the german dub is. Thats a good thing though for me. It makes this insanity all the more entertaining.

    Because back when it came out, The Evil Dead surely was terrifying. Today, its hilarious, but for all the right reasons. The effects might be old, but they are just so damn great to witness nonetheless, in all their gory brutality. Because you can see how much hard work was put into them, into all of this. This was a passion project from Raimi and the others and you feel it all the way through, and thats a huge plus for me. It also has something that wont age any time soon: The atmosphere.

    The first Evil Dead has one of the greatest and haunting atmospheres of the whole genre. Its the voices, the constant state of agony, the pure terror we see in the faces of our protagonists - and all of that gets elevated by the insane camerawork in this film. The camera here often goes into the perspective of the demons and gives us such a unique perspective of things that i just cant get enough of it. It might look a little shop-soiled, but its as entertaining as ever.

     

    Now, like i said, this movie has a hilarious censorship history in Germany. When it came out in 1981, the FSK (Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle der Filmwirtschaft, in english: Self-Regulatory Body of the Movie Industry, our motion picture rating system), thought that the film would stand against their moral concepts, but the film was shown anyway, since - so the lawyers at first - the violence in the movie was concentrated on demon bodies and not human ones, so there was no problem to be found (LOL). Later, the film got banned anyway in the whole of Germany by the district court Munich and for years, the lawyers and the press argued, that the film would stand fundamentally against human dignity. Only in 2017 - 33 years after its release - was the uncut version of the movie released legally in Germany with a FSK-rating of 16.

    I dont think i have to say that way earlier, ive found a way too watch the uncut version anyway :lol:

     

    What the film doesnt have though is a memorable soundtrack that i could post here.

     

    "...the film would stand fundamentally against human dignity."  HAHAHAHAHA, AWESOME!!!  I could only wish that if I ever made a movie, it would get such a ringing endorsement!

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  6. 48 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

    Just got back from the second best movie of all time to continue the list!

     

    Edit: Ok, i cant let this stand alone, JW:FK is NOT a perfect movie (the script, oh the script :rofl:), but i loved every second of it. Especially the second half, which dives into horror territory!

    Would love to read your review of the film! 😀

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  7. Some more...

     

    "You know how to whistle, don't you Steve?  You just put your lips together and blow."- To Have and Have Not (1944)

    “Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not Mr. Lebowski. You’re Mr. Lebowski. I’m the Dude...."

    The Big Lebowski (1998)

    "I'm gonna get medieval on yo'ass!"- Pulp Fiction (1994)

    "All work and no play make Johnny a dull boy."- The Shining (1980) (Ha, not sure if this counts because it's a written quote, not spoken.)

    "The Force is strong in this one."- Star Wars (1977)

    "Every time a bell rings, an angel gets his wings."- It's a Wonderful Life (1946)

    "Top of the world, Ma!"- White Heat (1949)

    "Shall we play a game?"- WarGames (1983)

    "Klaatu barada nikto."- The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)

    "Greetings from The Humungus!  The Lord Humungus!  The Warrior of the Wasteland!  The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla!"- The Road Warrior (1982)

    "I AM THE LAUUUW!"- Judge Dredd (1995)

    "Mrs. Robinson, you're trying to seduce me."- The Graduate (1967)

     

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  8. No order yet, just trying to get the quotes written down.  Also, trying to avoid the quotes that have already been mentioned.

     

    "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!"- Ghostbusters (1984)

    "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way."- Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988)

    "You wanna know how to get Capone?  They pull a knife, you pull a gun.  He sends up of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue!  That's the Chicago way!"- The Untouchables (1987)

    "Fuck me gently with a chainsaw."- Heathers (1989)

    "If you build it, he will come."- Field of Dreams (1989)

    "Winged freak terrorizes?  Wait'll they get a load of me!"-Batman (1989)

    "You're a disease and I'm the cure."- Cobra (1986)

    "I feel the need for speed!"- Top Gun (1986)

    "Hey bud, let's party!"- Fast Times at Ridgemont High (1982)

    "You had me at hello."- Jerry Maguire (1996)

    "They're heeere!" -Poltergeist (1982)

    "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn!" -Gone with the Wind (1939)

    "Pop quiz, hotshot."- Speed (1994)

    "Is it safe?" - Marathon Man (1976)

    "Hey, I'm walkin' here!"- Midnight Cowboy (1969)

    "Well, a boy's best friend is his mother."- Psycho (1960)

    "Do you like movies about gladiators?"- Airplane (1980)

     

    That's it for now, more later.

     

     

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  9. 12 minutes ago, baumer said:

     

    All due respect to Legends like Jane Fonda and Diane Keaton and young up-and-comers like Shailene Woodley but I don't think they have the star power of a Sandra Bullock film with Cate Blanchett and Anne Hathaway that has the name and pedigree of an Ocean's movie. You might think there's no demand for this but it's got a lot of interest in my opinion because of the cast and because of the name and to me this has breakout Blockbuster written all over it.

     

    Fair enough.  I guess we'll know in a couple days. :)

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  10. I see Oceans 8 meeting or coming in a little under projections, $35m-$40m.  Reviews have been only average and I just don't see a lot of demand for this movie.  There's been a glut of chick flicks so far this summer, Overboard, Breaking In, Life of the Party and Book Club, so I don't see any pent-up demand for another female-centric movie.

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  11. 5 hours ago, Brainbug said:

     

    Aliens is a super-interesting case, because while it is the sequel to a horror film, it uses basically none of its techniques and rather its own as an action thriller. Aliens for me is not a horror movie, because it never wants to scare us directly, unlike films like the first one or Predator. Aliens' goal is to entertain the viewer by is suspense and action, not by the horror aspects. One thing makes that very clear for me: The Xenomorphs in Aliens dont actually feel like that much of a threat on their own, because the characters manage to kill hundreds of them, making them basically typical no-name bad guys from other 80s action films. In the first one, there was only 1 Alien and the fact that it seemed so unkillable made it so scary.

     

    To be clear, i love both films. But they coudnt be much more different. So dont expect Aliens to pop up here :ph34r: and guys, please dont kill me for that i hope you can understand my reasoning :ph34r:

     

    Cameron himself said on the commentary that Aliens was a thriller and specifically not a horror movie.  Army of Darkness, Predator, all great choices, Brainbug...except of course for You're Next. :P And Alien: Covenant was absolute garbage.  What I hated the most about that movie was that everyone wanted a true 'Alien' picture, the studio, the fans, everyone.  Everyone except for Scott.  So Scott pretended to give people what they wanted but really made a Prometheus sequel and basically gave a giant F.U. to the fans and everyone.

  12. 9 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

     

    From what ive seen on review sites and movie forums alike, You're Next and Wingards other films are quite polarizing. I personally didnt care that much for The Guest and HATED Death Note btw.

     

    Anyway, i got earlier back than i thought, so i will probably be able to put 3 more out for today. The first one is the Hot Shots of horror films.

     

     

     

    Wingard thinks he's so cool and clever but his films just come off as smarmy and juvenile.  If the soundtrack is the best thing you can say about a movie, it means the movie sucks.  Oh, the Hot Shots of horror?  Hmmm... yeah, I have no idea. :P

  13. 28 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

    Ok, thats it for today. Tomorrow will see more entrys beginning with #31, which is one of the few home invasion films i really, really like.

     

     

     

    Will it be The Strangers?  Or Funny Games?  Similar themes, entirely different approaches.

     

    Or...are we going completely old school and picking Straw Dogs?

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