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  1. 17 minutes ago, Porthos said:

    @Cappoedameron You might want to make it clear in either your thread title or first paragraph of your post that this is a Detective Pikachu OW DOM > Endgame 3rd Weekend DOM club, as some folks look to be skimming your post and getting the wrong idea.

    Wait... that was not clear before. I thought my numbers made it pretty obvious I just meant Domestic lol.

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  2. 3 minutes ago, Daxtreme said:

     

    Yet.

     

    They are purposefully keeping things in the dark so that Endgame can have maximum impact.

     

    I say in the next few months they will start announcing things.

    Nothing will gross as much as this. The audience for the past 10 years have shared a connection to the original six. This movie was their curtain call. I'll be shocked if MCU can find something that will gross as much as this specifically another Avengers film.

     

    X-Men are household names but i don't even think a movie with them and the Avengers will gross as much as this.

     

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    Also Marvel 10 years ago wasn't this Marvel today. There's plenty of room for another studio to develop something that turns into a 2019! Marvel. They just need to do it properly. 

    It's already in play, the PCU or the NCU potentially. Pokemon Cinematic Universe or they could do the Nintendo Cinematic Universe. ;)

  3. 7 minutes ago, Porthos said:

    It most certainly was (if by implication).  Was actually a debate 'round these parts about how much the GA might feel mislead about said advertising.

     

    Turns out, the answer was: Not in the slightest.  Either by drops last year or reception of EG this year.

     

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    Remember, the GA isn't as tuned in as more passionate CBM fans.  Do not mistake "coverage from Comic-Con" or "discussion on movie blogs" as the same thing as "General knowledge from the general public".

    Infinity War Part 1 and Part 2 were revealed at D23. Not Comic Con.  I believe the year was 2015. I'd have to look it up but it was definitely D23.

  4. THIS IS JUST DOMESTIC OPENING WEEKEND CLUB!

     

    We are in for quite the showdown when Pikachu competes against Endgame in it's opening weekend against EG's 3rd weekend. Now i'm totally pulling for Pikachu here but I will not be upset at all if Pikachu loses, because in defeat it's gonna look like a beast!

     

    Now I know many people here think this is an open and shut case but I beg to differ. I foresee this being quite the battle, in fact it could be a battle so close that the endless fighting will in fact unite the two to join in becoming brothers, not fighting anymore.

     

    Depending on how Endgame performs in Week 2 will open the door to this club. Endgame could be looking at a drop anywhere from -50 all the way to -60% by next week.  So around $178-$148.

     

    Now in 2012, Avengers had an A+ Cinemascore and had drops of -50% and -46% in it's 3rd weekend. Movies that came out to foolishly combat the film were Battleship and The Dictator. Battleship earned $25 while The Dictator earned $15

     

    In 2018, Infinity War had a A Cinemascore and had drops of -55% and 45.9% in it's 3rd weekend. Movies that came out again to foolishly combat the film were Life of the Party and Breaking In. Both films did $17 million against Infinity War.

     

    In 2 weeks, Endgame that has an A+ Cinemascore will be competing with Detective Pikachu in it's 3rd weekend. A movie so far tracking with BOP for a $82M OW which I think the range is more $85/$90M. The Scott Mendelson tracking is BS and even he says as such. Detective Pikachu has been received well by critics and fans alike from press screenings all across the world and from many looks on social media, the trailer that got the most reception at many audiences screenings of Endgame was Detective Pikachu. 

     

    So Avengers and Infinity War had 46% and 45.9% drops respectively with these movies that served very little competition. What's a worldwide phenomenon and brand like Pokemon going to do to it? We could be seeing another 50-55% drop for Endgame in 3rd weekend cause of Pikachu. Which is where this comes in.

     

    Endgame could be looking at a 3rd weekend anywhere between 89M to 70M. And with Pikachu slated for an 82M OW. A real box office battle could be taking shape. Lots of unknown factors but quite the exciting circumstances nonetheless.

     

    Now I know many people would say 

     

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    But I say let them both prosper and benefit from each other. If Pikachu loses he'll evolve into Detective Pikachu 2.0 for the sequel and he won't have to compete against the king of the box office and he'll mow down everything in his path. A true redemption arc any Pokemon trainer aside from Ash would be proud of.

    tenor.gif?itemid=7385425 This is Detective Pikachu and Endgame. Look how happy they are for each others successes.

     

    So whose it gonna be Endgame or Detective Pikachu? We have quite a potential battle on the horizon and it could be a very exciting one at that.

     

    Oh and there's many references to the first movie if people didn't pick up on it, the title of the thread is the entire intro of Pokemon The First Movie trailer.

     

     

     

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  5. 8 hours ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:

    IW was also marketed as a finale film. This is the film ever that will not only Gross $300M OW but the first to gross $350M OW. And judging by what we are getting from CJ so far, the Saturday is looking at $110M-$120M and it’s not showing the same drops as HP8 did on OW.

    Infinity War was never marketed as a finale film because everyone and their mother knew Infinity War was split up into 2 parts. Since around 2015 when it was confirmed that was what they were doing. Infinity War Part 2 became Endgame and it 100% is a finale film. Just by looking at the credits you know this is a curtain call.

  6. This is really weird I went to the same theatre both times, different show times and I got different trailers each time. Which puzzled me cause it was the same theatre.

     

    My God the trailers that shown during the 2nd time I saw it were terrible. The trailers that were shown during Thursday night when I went with my friends were so much better.

  7. 21 minutes ago, CoolEric258 said:

    I've already said this a bunch of times this week, but I'm gonna say it again: I'd argue movies currently in theaters get hurt by breakout movies more than upcoming movies. And the fact that people are going to the theater and seeing trailers and posters and whatnot for new movies helps stuff like Pikachu/Wick/Aladdin/Godzilla.

    And Pikachu's trailer according to tons of twittter reports received the most reaction out of any trailer showed with Endgame.

  8. 1 minute ago, Mulder said:

    My guy with an A+ Cinemascore and 2nd weekend showings already filled up that is literally impossible. Stop thinking like a fanboy and look at the numbers and history.

    I'm looking at the history of frontloaded finale films(which endgame is marketed as) and notice they have a very significant decrease in Week 2 because of the mass amount of people that go to see it on OW to avoid spoilers. I also take into account traditional Marvel drops as well, which is 50-55%.

     

    I assure you I am looking at numbers.

  9. 11 minutes ago, Porthos said:

    I've been talking privately with someone about this and right now I'm using the word "fear".  By definition fear isn't entierly rational.

     

    But, I gotta tell ya, I look at all those entertainment dollars being sucked up right now, and if I were forced to bet I'd bet on "everything between now and KotM underperforming".

     

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    That being said, Pikachu is getting a fair amount of good buzz out those UK screenings.  Wick 3 might be sufficiently R-rated to find its own lane.

     

    Pikachu got overwhelming positive buzz from it's first screenigns in US as well. It also has a press screening this week as well as May 6th, day before embargo drops.

     

    It's gonna be a battle between Pikachu and Endgame for 3rd weekend.

  10. 6 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

     

    And to be honest, it's Mother Day weekend with no great "Mother's Day" opener. so what better one than Endgame:)...not sure moms are gonna be driven by Pokemon:)...

    I can't think of a better movie for mom to take her little ones to for bonding and a fun time then Detective Pikachu.

     

    All I'm saying is if those three movies which were not competition for those Avengers movies and it did a -45% hold then a movie that is actual competition for Endgame isn't only gonna give it a -30% hold. It's highly unlikely. 

     

    Personally I see Pikachu giving Endgame another 50-55% drop off. Which is why many believe there's gonna be a true battle between Pikachu and Endgame for 3rd Weekend. 

  11. 8 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

    See, I don't see that as disappointing, since I see a 3rd weekend drop (if we got that number-ish) of only 30%ish with Mother's Day weekend...even with a Pika opening...so, I see over $100M 3rd weekend (if we get $370M:), even with a largish 2nd weekend drop...b/c I think it's supply, not demand, that's gonna limit the 1st few weekends:)...

    No offense but this is unrealistic, a -30% hold against Pikachu? If movies like Battleship, Life of the Party, and Breaking In were able to put Avengers and Infinity War at only -45% holds what the heck makes you think Pokemon is gonna only do -30% for Endgame when it's a freaking monster in and of itself? Do you not understand how big the Pokemon brand is?

     

    This is competition for Endgame, none of those movies were competition for those Avengers movies.

  12. 6 minutes ago, HeadShot said:

    155m second weekend would be disappointing. 200m is the goalpost. 

    If the opening is 310 then 155m is in line for the average drop off rate for a marvel film.

     

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    Pikachu also has bigger trailer views than both, but that's gonna open at around $50m too

    Dude Pikachu is not gonna open at only 50m.

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