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    The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

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    19 minutes ago, TMP said:

    Deadpool was also a "smaller scale, lighter movie", and ditto Ant-Man 2. They both made over $210m domestic (Deadpool making well above that), and the general consensus seems to be that Shazam!'s better than both of them. All WB had to do was do a proper ad campaign, instead of one trailer in July and then nothing until the month before release, and even then still barely marketing it.

    Deadpool's R-rating and unique character made it go viral in a way that you can't ever guarantee for a movie. Ant-man 2 was a sequel to a fairly-well liked movie and was part of a much more popular universe than Shazam (and still was wayyy below average for its universe). Ant-Man 1 is more comparable, but Shazam probably won't even do that much worse than that film (which again had the MCU brand advantage). Also, Shazam had a special look in the NFL conference championships in January, so WB didn't "do nothing until the month before release".

    The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

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    1 minute ago, TMP said:

    WB's marketing campaign was embarrassing for Shazam. It's probably gonna the best reviewed one of these this year, and it'll gross the least outside of the two Fox-Men write-offs.

    I mean, it's an inherently a smaller-scale, lighter movie, and as we saw with the Ant-man movies those just don't have the same GA appeal as the big blockbusters, and with the lower budget it's very difficult for it to bomb

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    The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

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    5 minutes ago, Porthos said:

    This is really useful.  I don't have the time right now, but going back and checking Aquaman's first day sales and then applying a rough 4x to it might give us a ballpark figure as to where Endgame stood as of that report.  I know Atom and Fandango will be different, just by definition.  Still might give us a general idea.

     

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    NOT IT!  :ph34r:

    (still really busy, now in the middle of error checking ;))

    Aquaman was unusually high on Atom though due to the Prime sneak previews, it even beat IW 

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    The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

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    6 minutes ago, Porthos said:

    Said it before, and I'll say it again.  If Shazam! is in the ballpark of Ant-Man unadjusted, it's a pure win.  57/180 might be a tough climb with Endgame out there, but I think 52/160 or thereabouts would have to be viewed as a success when everything is taken into context.  

     

    Agreed. Honestly with the low budget this could make significantly less than Ant-Man WW and still be profitable. Not sure why a 45ish million opening would be considered so terrible.

    The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

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    23 minutes ago, LordNox said:

    I'm basing it on the fact that Dumbo has been selling better than Shazam in presales every comparable date as of now. Presales show the hype for a movie, and Dumbo has consistenly done better than Shazam by that metric. 

     

    Early box office tracking has also time and time again put Dumbo higher than Shazam.

     

    There is as of now no evidence at all that Shazam will outdo Dumbo in NA but all figures and tracking has shown the opposite.

     

    I want Shazam to do better than Dumbo but sorry to say the reviews have not led to any increase at all in the presales for Shazam.

    Dumbo 11 Days out - 3630 tickets on Fandango

    Shazam 11 Days out - 5040 tickets sold on Fandango

    And that's even with the early previews for Shazam burning off demand

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    Disney's Dumbo | March 29, 2019 | Tim Burton | Reviews coming in

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    24 minutes ago, TMP said:

    Feel like Aladdin will get similar reactions to this, or even similar reactions to King Arthur '17, while Lion King will probably get into the low-to-mid 70's like BATB. This looked the best of those three, and it sounds like it's a dud.

    hope we get some new Gambino music with TLK tho

    I still have high hopes for TLK, Favreau at least showed he can make a well-received remake with Jungle Book. That said I thought this movie would get good reviews as well based on the trailers...ah well.

    US WEEKEND THREAD: Record 70.25 OW (highest grossing OW for an original horror)

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    1 minute ago, a2k said:

    If the much hyped Glass barely cracked 40m FSS how is 45-55 disappointing for US.

     

    AQP did 3.8x after 50 ow. Get Out did around 5.2x multi which is nearly impossible to match but with very good reception 3.5-4x for US won't surprise me. 45-55 ow and 3.5-4x gives a wide range of 155-220 dom. Close to AQP splitting the difference.

     

    It's not disappointing, its just (as we also saw with Captain Marvel) when presales go absolutely crazy like this has in the final week there's often this urge to pull up expectations. Which makes sense, because "absolutely bonkers" numbers are more fun to follow than just "good" openings.

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    Tuesday #s - CM 14.6m

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    2 minutes ago, NCsoft said:

    I honest don't know how Titanic got more than 35 Million votes? Was there a time when RT as a site is like 100 times more popular than it is today?

    Revenge of the Sith has 33.6 million votes somehow, lol

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    ***SPOILERS***Captain Marvel Spoiler Thread | ***WARNING SPOILERS ALLOWED***WARNING SPOILERS ALLOWED***WARNING SPOILERS ALLOWED***

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    8 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said:

     

     

    I think the final battle in CM could have been something better. 

     

    Any sort of fight or struggle really lol... 

     

    This was like the most one sided climax in a MCU film. 

     

    That is why I prefer WW as the final fight had sacrifice and a decent CGI battle. 

    I actually really liked that aspect, it was very satisfying to see her just let loose and destroy everyone

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    The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

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    4 minutes ago, feasby007 said:

    BP did this too on the same Monday (first time it passed 20k):

     

    Mon 12/02/2018 - 35429

    Tue 13/02/2018 - 36302

    Wed 14/02/2018 - 39934

    Thu 15/02/2018 - 65453

     

    Still, that 25k is fantastic and with reviews out tomorrow, perhaps it can even hit 30k :ohmygod:

    Will probably get >30k today tbh, possibly even match that BP number. Already at 17k with its best hours still to go.

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