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All in all definitely not the disaster some expected. The most negative ones all say it's still better than Genisys and they did like some of performances. The mixed ones are basically saying it's a fun action movie but not much else. The most positive ones say it's the first worthy success to T2 (although none will say it's better than T1 or T2 but who expected that?). Biggest complaint is probably that it's still sticking too close to the formula.

Worst reviews are 2/5 stars. There's actually a 5/5 review.

All in all pretty much what I expected from Miller and critic response. Excited to see it.

October 20, 2019

Fun little movie, no more no less.

I loved all those Terminator references, maybe it will give TDF a very slight help :hahaha:

October 20, 2019

23 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:

https://news.yahoo.com/coppola-backs-scorsese-row-over-marvel-films-173112180.html

"I don't know that anyone gets anything out of seeing the same movie over and over again," the 80-year-old filmmaker said.

"Martin was kind when he said it's not cinema. He didn't say it's despicable, which I just say it is."

oh boy... what Cameron said sounds like a love letter now :hahaha:

October 17, 2019

1 hour ago, hasanahmad said:

if Cameron really was even 5% involved in this project that trailer would have been edited with a better music choice

can we stop this? We know pretty much exactly what he did and did not do, he was very explicit about it. He worked with a group of writers for a few months to map out the story and he did a few touch ups on script. He also was involved in casting.

After that it's Tim Miller's movie. So no he probably didn't handpick the trailer music, but that doesn't mean he didn't play a significant role

Now if you don't want to watch the movie because of the trailer music... I don't know what to tell you... you do you

October 16, 2019

James Cameron at #57

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/thr-100-hollywood-reporters-powerful-people-entertainment-1246527

from the small interview:

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BEST OR WORST THING ABOUT HOLLYWOOD’S MERGER MANIA

"As long as people pay the bills and when I show up to work on a Monday morning, they haven't closed down my production, I could give a shit."

In case anyone thought the Disney acquisition would have any impact on the movies

October 16, 2019

1 hour ago, OncomingStorm93 said:

Dark Fate was filmed with PG-13 and R scenes so that the decision could be made in post. As a result, I’m expecting this to be baseline R.

So kinda like T2? I'm fine with it

you can see some of it in this trailer, limbs flying off and some blood (1:10)

October 16, 2019

19 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

I a not the one constantly implying uncounsciously a R Rating makes a movie "better" or adult-er (lol).

Please find me a thread on BOT where a R Rating is welcomed with scorn & critique.

It is always the other way around :

"Make it edgier, make it dark & serious & bleak and violent, make it less Disney-y, make it Tarantino-y, make it R !"

Sorry to remind people the realities of life.

I know, it is rude.

I think it's more about the fact (at least for me), that they didn't compromise too much and made the movie they wanted to make instead of hoping to make a few more bucks with a PG-13 rating

October 15, 2019

29 minutes ago, OdinSon2k14 said:

I gotta ask...the years have not been kind to Linda Hamilton...wow...what happened? I'm sorry, that's more than just age...theres gotta be some alcohol abuse, maybe drugs...

63 and not abusing cosmetic surgery. She looks fine.

October 15, 2019

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are there reviews out?

Embargo lifting a bit before the UK release I hear, which is October 23.

October 15, 2019

7 hours ago, lorddemaxus said:

They've shown this clip a thousand times already. Is there really nothing else that's worth showing?

The biggest complaint I hear surrounding the marketing of this movie is that they have shown too much

October 15, 2019

1 hour ago, Eric Addams said:

MODERATION

Not the Fanboy Wars thread. You can disagree with people who are voicing their concerns over the film, but you don't have to accuse people of being Marvel shills.

I don't think I was "accusing" anyone of being a Marvel shill, merely joking around the current popular thing. But I do agree that this doesn't belong here

I just wish people had more relevant / insightful things to say than "THIS LOOKS BAD" or "I'm not excited for this" or "this movie will prove Tim Miller is overrated" or needlessly throwing shade on James Cameron and T2.

They set the tone, I'm only responding to it

October 14, 2019

2 hours ago, WittyUsername said:

Yeah, I’m still having trouble mustering up enthusiasm for this.

There I fixed it. Excited now?

October 14, 2019

1 hour ago, TMP said:

If their best clip is something that looks like this... oh boy

Looks like what? Every other billion making blockbuster released in the last decade? Have you been sleeping all this time?

Or maybe you could add a little substance to your useless comment and point out what's wrong with the scene

October 13, 2019

On 10/11/2019 at 6:56 PM, JB33 said:

You have to wonder if it comes down to the brand. I know a lot of the GA aren't studio savvy like us film nerds but maybe enough Paramount films have been horrible that people just don't trust them (if they're the types who pay attention to what studio a movie is from).

Like, could this exact movie have done better if it was from WB?

there's no way the GA is going "Hey I wants to see this movies! Oh but it's a Paramount, forget it..." The GA barely cares about directors as it is, forget studios. You could say Marvel, but that's different since they stick to a specific universe of characters and a specific genre. It's also of course, a famous comic book brand

Gemini Man flopping has nothing to do with people not trusting Paramount. It's simple: the marketing didn't generate any buzz and the reviews were terrible. It only has Will Smith to generate a few millions and will attract a few curious with the new tech.

October 12, 2019

5 hours ago, Ozymandias said:

Those days are over. We crushed avatar, saw its fanboys driven before us, and reveled in the lamentation of their navi

"crushed"

That's a very liberal use of the word. It took 10 years of build up and an armada of highly paid actors (and probably a little bit of "creative accounting") to make it past not even 1%

October 9, 2019

13 hours ago, Zatt was right said:

The fact that I’m more interested of buying MKXI’s Terminator’s DLC (a game I haven’t even finished yet) than anything related to this film it’s telling. And I love Tim Miller and James Cameron, but so far... ew.

That's funny coming from a Marvel superfan, I guess now you understand what Martin Scorsese feels like watching a Marvel movie

I wonder if you had the same reaction to something like Captain Marvel which looked super flat and generic. You probably had your Marvel goggles on and praised it

10 hours ago, JB33 said:

Lol, if it were any other movie with that CGI @IronJimbo and Co.would be all over it.

Even with Linda, Arnold and James involved this doesnt feel like it's anything close to the original Terminator films. They needed to make it look as practical as possible to at least try to match the feel of the originals.

That's the hard reality of any Terminator sequels, you get to be compared to action movie classics such as T1 and T2, while something like Marvel movies get to be compared to... other Marvel movies.

As for me I'm looking forward to it for a few reason:

- Love Junkie XL and want to hear his take on the theme, I think he's a perfect fit for this.

- While Tim Miller may be relying too much on CG and slow-mo, Deadpool has shown me he can still direct a good action scene.

-Linda returning

-Cameron returning and I want to see where they are taking it

I don't expect the next action / sci-fi classic, but it doesn't look like a bad 2 hours at a movie theater, and certainly doesn't look any worst than typical superhero fare.

October 5, 2019

8 hours ago, Ozymandias said:

Scorsese isn't wrong. The fact that the most interesting and compelling character by far in the MCU is a giant purple CGI space alien villain voiced by Josh Brolin says a lot. I actually genuinely like Infinity War because of that character, which is more than I can say for any other movie in that universe(endgame was a noticeble drop in quality/entertainment value because he's barely in it imo... still leagues better than trash like Avatar though).

Unfortunately the future of real cinema is gonna be on streaming platforms IMO. On average the best of streaming/TV has been superior to the best of movies for years now. Heres hoping the new LOTR series is the one to rule them all like Jackson's trilogy in the movieverse.

I like how you keep bringing up Avatar in every discussion to shit on it even though it's completely irrelevant to your point

Did James Cameron run over your cat or something?

October 4, 2019

1 hour ago, TMP said:

Too bad he's not even close to the director that Scorsese is though

I wasn't actually taking shots at Scorsese by the way, he's one of my favorite directors. Not even close? They are not even playing the same game. Scorsese could never direct a movie like Terminator 2 and James Cameron could never direct something like Taxi Driver

October 4, 2019

Cameron doesn't seem like such a bad guy now does he :hahaha:

October 3, 2019

9 hours ago, cdsacken said:

Definitely not. He already had several big films and he cut his fee for that movie to take a small percentage of revenue. Made $50 million. However it was in the early part of his career post TV

12/19/97   Titanic   Par. $659,363,944   3,265   $28,638,131   2,674   1
12/20/96   Marvin's Room   Mira. $12,803,305   1,158   $57,739   6   21
11/1/96   Romeo + Juliet   Fox $46,351,345   1,963   $11,133,231   1,276   15
11/3/95   Total Eclipse   FL $340,139   54   $131,269   52   26
4/21/95   The Basketball Diaries   NL $2,381,087   318   $765,335   317   25
2/10/95   The Quick and the Dead   Sony $18,636,537   2,158   $6,515,861   2,158   20
12/17/93   What's Eating Gilbert Grape   Par. $10,032,765   611   $74,421   6   22
4/9/93   This Boy's Life   WB   $4,104,962   773 $74,425   3   24

:thinking:

October 2, 2019

17 minutes ago, Elessar said:

I meant the narration, not the film dialog. Just that short bit at the beginning.

So we've got russian, now spanish... what's next? We english speaking people never get catered to.

what's weird is the official twitter is now selling the "exclusive look" Friday on IMAX but the footage is still out there for everyone to see in Russian... a bit sloppy on their part. Unless there's some different footage shown on Friday but I doubt it

October 1, 2019

2 minutes ago, Elessar said:

Strangely, no english voiceover on the official Paramount channel...

It is in English, have you watched the whole thing? Just the start is in Spanish

October 1, 2019

1 hour ago, The Futurist said:

Cameron is VERY hard on a set.

But you know which person he is the hardest on ?

Himself.

I've heard Cameron say in an interview that his need to work hard on a set comes perhaps from a lack of confidence. He says he knows other filmmakers are inherently more brilliant than he is but he can grind harder than most, that's how he can stand out. Doesn't sound to me like someone with a MASSIVE EGO, like some people seem to think.

October 1, 2019

59 minutes ago, dudalb said:

James Cameron is the messiah who will save the world.

I got a feeling some of the Cameron fanboys here really believe that.

Put me down as somebody who likes his films but doesn't like his massive ego.

Such a great post:

Ignoring anything that was discussed (check)

obnoxiously deriding people (check)

completely unprompted (check)

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