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1 hour ago, Poseidon said:
The experience of really sold out shows is getting rarer and rarer due to that fact.
Endgame had sold out showings this year. Another one that did the same was with Deathly Hallows back in 2011.
Both of those films were:
- Conclusion to a saga that spanned across a decade (Infinity Saga took 11, Harry Potter was 10)
- Had a huge opening weekend
- Became the highest grossing film of all time for said studio and of that year
- Has a large fanbase and following (of course, it's still going on to this day)
I don't know what you mean by sold out shows getting rarer to achieve. If you mean by there hasn't been a sold out showing for a film in a long time, then that I can understand.
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@Eric Plus I mean, Frozen 2 is the big movie, it's a blockbuster. More blockbusters take up the screens since they're the huge things right now. I saw Frozen 2 yesterday and there were more showtimes for that film compared to Harriet, Ford V Ferrari, and A Beautiful Day. Of course, that's because those films have less screens compared to Frozen 2, which is at over 4000.
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8 minutes ago, Zakiyyah6 said:
I know The Shining was a hit when it came out in the 1970's but that doesn't translate to people caring in 2019
Same with Blade Runner 2049. When BR 2049 came out as a flop, people in the comment sections of places such as Youtube, Reddit, etc, referred to the general audience as "dumb" or that "they don't understand true art". No, that's not the answer. Not a lot of people in terms of the general audience have even heard of the original Blade Runner or even The Shining.
It's more of a cinephile crowd than a general audience one.
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6 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:
I noticed pattern of Joker show count for 6 weeks and despite it having great holds, its showcount started dropping and at times worse levels than what the BO drops indicate.
I was going to compare this to Aladdin, but the huge difference is that Aladdin is 4-quandrant, family friendly, and was a summer release. Plus, there was the memorial day weekend it had too.
In its 7th weekend, Joker did 5.3M. In its 7th weekend, Aladdin did 7.5M.
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57 minutes ago, a2k said:
didn't stop titanic from becoming a blockbuster.
The funny thing is everyone back then expected Titanic to flop, but it went on to become a big success. And then James Cameron did it again with Avatar, and that became a bug success.
The 2nd rerelease of Titanic felt too early though as of recently. Then again, the 2012 rerelease was for the 15th Anniversary and went it crossed 2B, the 2017 is for the 20th Anniversary.
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39 minutes ago, Curtis1986 said:
Streaming is where the movie going experience is heading to.
Not really. Streaming isn't going to kill the theater going experience.
The only reason why there's a low opening is because, well, depending on the sequel, it deflates. But not only that, people are most likely waiting to see the movie next week during Thanksgiving compared to this week, where kids are off on those days.
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39 minutes ago, wildphantom said:
Uncertain? You mean they’re daring to release some original films?
Pixar has done original films, just not a lot of them during this 2010s decade.
In this recent decade (2010s), they've released 4 originals films: Coco (807M), Brave (540M), Inside Out (857M), and The Good Dinosaur (332M).
As for sequels/followups/prequels, they've released 7 of those: Toy Story 3 (1.06B), Cars 2 (562M), Monsters University (744M), Finding Dory (1.02B), Cars 3 (383M), Incredibles 2 (1.2B), and Toy Story 4 (1.07B)
It makes sense as to why they're going back to original standalone films.
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3 minutes ago, Jedi Jat said:
Age of Ultron was helped by huge China bump and Asian markets else it's west drops were big.
Same for TLJ, 1.6mn was minimum it should have gone for.
The Last Jedi also had a huge overseas drop from its predecessor
The Force Awakens Overseas: 1.13B
The Last Jedi Overseas: 712M
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1 hour ago, ThomasNicole said:
Frozen will do 1.4B and in a few months people still gonna say it’s a disappointment.
Reminds of what happened with Age Of Ultron and The Last Jedi. Both of those films got labeled as disappointing in terms of worldwide gross, but they still did well at the box office.
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There's definitely a difference between the sequels: Frozen 2, Incredibles 2, and Toy Story 4.
I don't know how the reactions were for when for Frozen 2 was announced, so there's that.
Toy Story 4 was one where people were conflicted, since there were people who enjoyed the way that Toy Story 3 had ended, and thought that a 4th one wasn't needed. It went on to do well at the box office, and outgross the 3rd Toy Story film.
Incredibles 2 was one that people had been wanting and asking for years. Everyone wanted one, and Brad Bird delivered. Plus, there was that 14 year wait, so there was that too.
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My friend and I both saw Frozen 2 today (Saturday). It was so so good. I would not mind watching it a second time.
The final parts of the film were definitely unexpected and surprising. We both cried a few times, but it was still an overall wonderful film.
Also, Lost In The Woods was a really good song.
And another thing: The animation was absolutely breathtaking.
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I can't remember if someone stated this in here or not, but someone stated that Frozen 2 will likely end in Beauty And The Beast numbers (504M domestic)
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29 minutes ago, Menor said:
The word locked is overused on this site. You can personally have confidence in your prediction without saying "locked", which diminishes the inherently unpredictable nature of the BO.
Agreed. The statement I bolded makes me think of a couple of movies come to mind regarding their unpredictability.
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Even though Frozen 2 will have a lower OW than what I predicted, it's definitely going to leg out throughout the next couple of months.
A reminder that Frozen back in 2013 was still making bank at the box office, after the movie released on DVD.
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So, we do have some comps for Frozen 2, being TS4 and Incredibles 2 (?).
Opening Weekend wise, just for November, could we compare it to Catching Fire? It was Frozen's competitor when both films were out at the time. Overall though, Frozen took the Worldwide crown while Catching Fire took the domestic.
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4 hours ago, Fullbuster said:
I wonder where this rumor came from, I didn't know about it until very recently.
It's been a bit of an ongoing campaign. I remember hearing about the whole thing back in 2016 when it happened. Basically, there was a whole hashtag campaign going on with people wanting Elsa to have a girlfriend.
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Could Frozen 2 beat out the biggest Opening Weekend in Japan: Revenge Of The Sith (18.9M)?
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Oh yeah, that reminds me!
My friend and I were talking a while back regarding Disney princesses, and we both pretty much agreed that Brave began the independent princess genre for Disney. Agree?
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@Chucky Did you forget about Aquaman?
People were expecting that movie to flop or just do decent business. The superhero itself is referred to as a joke character, and people didn't expect it to go into the billion dollar range after Justice League happened, BvS didn't do too hot domestically, and Suicide Squad's mixed reception. The movie blew past expectations, and it beat out The Dark Knight. I don't think anyone was expecting Aquaman to be THAT big.
Plus, DC's been slowly getting back on track. Ever since Hamada got added in, they have their 2nd billion dollar grosser this year, Shazam! underperformed but managed to breakeven, and Aquaman crossed the billion dollar mark last year.
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I remember seeing the runtime for Frozen 2 be around 2 hours, then I did some checking on some other websites and it's only 1 hr 44 minutes.
Compared to the first one, which is only 1h 49m. Huh, thought it was shorter.
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7 minutes ago, StarWarsMemer said:
For $2B, it would need to do TLK numbers outside NA, China, SK, and Japan ($900M), $600M domestically, and $500M China, SK, and Japan combined.
Okay, wow. That would be insane. Honestly it would be cool if F2 became the first animated movie to do 2B, but I don't think it'll happen. Then again, it's 2019 and we've already had so many unexpected moments at the BO this year.
Let me see how I can compare this to The Lion King (2019):
QuoteDomestic: 543M (Current Total)
Overseas: 1.11B (With China), 991M (Without China)
Biggest International Markets: UK (93M), France (80M), Brazil (69M)
Combined Gross of Japan, China, and SK: 217M
Japan Gross: 62M
China Gross: 120M
SK Gross: 35M
I agree with The Lion King numbers in terms of the international market. But I think it's going to need to do at least Aladdin numbers in both Japan and SK.
Aladdin did 89M in SK and 112M in Japan. It only did 53M in China, but combine all three and it made 254M. F2 would need to do 246M more than Aladdin's combined totals in order to hit that number.
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22 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:
What are you implying?
As for Elsa I'm eager to see how her story evolved, lesbian or not.
Agreed on the Elsa part, I don't mind either way. 😁
Implication wise, I'm just saying that there was the whole "Give Elsa a girlfriend" campaign that went on for years, and then the director had to confirm that it basically isn't going to happen.
I remember several months back, my friend and I discussed about the whole thing and we were both mixed on it. We stated that it would be great, but also imagined how much backlash (both positive and negative) the movie would get. Of course, it would be if it were explicitly stated and being front in center rather than a subtle and/or hinted manner.
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The fact that both of these news happened within a day of each other
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/entertainment/elsa-gay-frozen-trnd/index.html
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JAPAN BOX OFFICE | Demon Slayer breaks all time record for OW
in International Box Office
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How many weekends will F2 remain at #1? I noticed that there hasn't been a film since Your Name (?) that stayed at #1 for over 10 weekends.