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1 minute ago, titanic2187 said:
Coincidental both Japanese title got 720k on CD. Heron drops 18% from last Monday (from 2325 down to 900 locations)
Godzilla -1 jump 15% from last Monday.
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So TCP is the WOM king of 2023 holiday season. TCP tops in all three WOM meters.
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1 minute ago, AniNate said:
This bitter grumbling might hold more weight if it didn't also report $1.6 billion internationally. You really can't just chalk all that up to "powerful accounting friends". And I say this as someone who didn't like Avatar 2.
Yeah, are we still doing this kind of "Because nobody around me see the movie, therefore the numbers must be fake" kind of non-sense? If so we will have every right to question the BO authenticity of first Captain Marvels and Aquaman now, since the sequel collapse so a lot from the predecessor.
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3 minutes ago, vale9001 said:
Really great day for TCP.
Extra 50k
1 N The Color Purple Warner Bros. $18,150,000 3,152 $5,758 $18,150,000 1 -
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2 minutes ago, Hatebox said:
it’s an open secret they cooked the books. Cameron has powerful accounting friends.It must be so powerful that they are capable of refusal to fake their number for Marvels or DC this year but somehow willing to work for JC, for some benefit they can only reap once in a decade.
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1 hour ago, Speedorito said:
On a sidenote, The Boys in the Boat got an A Cinemascore. Seems like a big split between critics and the audience on that one.
Whereas Ferrari got a B.
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3 hours ago, cannastop said:
Oof Migration has 86% rating on Rotten Tomatoes Verified audience. That's fucken rough.
Ikr! The movie is awesome and I was totally expecting something "9" to begin with but only get 86%. Really hope this can drag its feet to 100m, they deserve it.
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Wonka is one of the best suit movie for holiday. I am quite certain that all the good will built from pre-Christmas will peak from now to New Year. The overseas grosses have been the most impressive part for Wonka. It beats the Johnny deep version in 2005 easily when JD when at his popularity peak. This caught me by surprise because I always thought willy wonka is more American pop culture.
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Can Trolls 3 pass 100m? I am worried this is another TBG.
Also, I just want to say it out loud here, Migration is the best Illumination's movie to-date. This could be the least-funny of the bunch but at least the movie did manage to explore deeper into the story, unlike other Illumination movies that tend to rely on fart jokes and silly comedic action.
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Mostly incomplete but we know HG: BOSS, Trolls 3 and Wish continue to shed. I suspect Heron and Godzilla lose a bunch of theaters too to make way for this many new releases in the span of few days. Hope the newcomers can make decent amount of money to justify their scarify.
Migration Universal Pictures 3,761 3,761 The Color Purple Warner Bros. 3,152 New The Boys in the Boat MGM 2,557 New The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes Lionsgate 1,680 2,509 -829 Trolls: Band Together Universal Pictures 1,630 2,210 -580 Wish Walt Disney 1,240 1,740 -500 The Holdovers Focus Features 316 316 The Marvels Walt Disney 110 220 -110 Silent Night Lionsgate 97 203 -106 Killers of the Flower Moon Paramount Pictures 34 49 -15 Oppenheimer Universal Pictures 17 25 -8 All of Us Strangers Searchlight Pictures 6 4 +2 -
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Both Avatar combined made $5.1b , without adding any re-release grosses. That is more than what EG+IW combined. And both Avatar made it to the final 10 of the Oscar Best picture list. That is a complete success story that many couldn't even envision. Aquaman flopping is another reminder just how big Avatar achievement was. And it isn't like Aquaman was not a December player this round, so there shouldn't be any "Ohh, because Avatar opened in December when everyone is free for movie!" BS.
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5 minutes ago, MightyDargon said:
Being VERY optimistic about the post Christmas run I see
13.3m on CD? That is highest than true Friday itself, a very high bar for a B cinemascore movie.
The movie already drop to number 2 in China on Monday and most likely Tue too, before any major competition kicks in. Clearly WOM isn't moving in Aqua favour.
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4 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:
We have lot of movies with amazing CGI and none of them ever get close to Avatar popularity
Sure Avatar is more impressive visually, but visuals alone is never enough to create a cultural phenomenon.
I’m fully aware it’s the visuals that makes the biggest impression, which is why everyone talks about it, but if the story wasn’t compelling, nobody would tolerate it for 3 hours and still give it a high praise
So yeah obviously the story is very common and cliche, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing when it’s well done, and it is well done.
And the great legs was almost everywhere. From euro to US, from LATAM to Asia.
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8 minutes ago, Joel M said:
I disagree with this as a factual statement about "everyone". Ava2 opened under expectations and went on to have fantastic legs way beyond the holiday corridor. People that don't care or don't like Avatar can pretend that the millions of people in theatres just liked the pretty colors on screen. Still doesn't make it true.
Also quite funny to see many insists that ATWOW has a mixed WOM when every WOM meters are highly positive, 91% 5 stars posttrak, 92% for audience and A cinemascore. None of the tentpole this season are this positive.
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9 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:
Avatar does have little to no pop culture footprint. And I say that as someone who was insisting 700 and 2b for A2 would happen this time last year when many were in full blown “FLOP” mode before Xmas Day happened.
They are movies that can make boatloads of money, but they have not been a pop culture force. Outside of all of those “Avatar depression” people who actually wanted to be on Pandora for a few months after the first. Thats about the most pop culture footprint the franchise has ever given us.Avatar maybe lacking of cultural legacy but the interest is there. If you paid attention you will realise the behind the scenes for Avatar garner millions of millions views on youtube. The view counts for all these BTS feature is rare. The crowd are clearly awestruck by VFX and care enough to explore behind the scene features. People may not be passionate enough but they care this world.
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3 minutes ago, HummingLemon496 said:
$50M OS-China debut for Aquaman.
After the Marvels and now Aquaman, now we have a clear idea about what movie really leaving no cultural impact behind.
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Added around 60m internationally in the past 7 days. The next 1 and half week is gonna be big due to year-end holiday and summer break from north to south.
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18 minutes ago, M37 said:
Agree with this assessment fwiw. A weaker Saturday here reads to me as the tide being pulled back a bit further than the 2017 comps, with a bigger Xmas and beyond wave (relatively speaking) to come crashing down in the upcoming week
2017 Xmas is a very high bar to clear. Beside SW8, many movies had 110%-160% range of jump, and that is without a big movie that open on 25 Dec with 20m. And that is without mentioning the holiday moviegoing habit that permanently weakened post-Covid.
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Aquaman may lose to the local title on CD.
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42 minutes ago, JonathanMB said:
Dec 22, 2023 - $977,151 +9% -33% 1,580 $618 $28,404,407 15 Dec 23, 2023 - $1,127,254 +15% -47% 1,580 $713 $29,531,661 16 Dec 24, 2023 - $1,050,000 -7% -46% 1,580 $665 $30,581,661 17 Nice to see that something had a double-digits increase on Saturday, but lol good luck with that Sunday number. Guess they're new to releasing estimates like this though, can't blame them.
NO way -7% on Christmas Eve. I guess GKIDS just want to score good headline to retain their screen and showtimes during holiday season. But both Japanese titles do not better Sat bump. Godzilla-1 sunday estimate was very realistic.
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45 minutes ago, M37 said:
In what possible way are you mathing to come to that conclusion?
I believe he/she was referring this pre-Christmas weekend in particular, not overall run
11 hours ago, Cmasterclay said:Bad, bad, bad Saturday numbers. Definitely shifts perception of weekend for me tbh. Not sure Aquaman/Migration hit 100 from that. 30 mill gonna be tough for Anyone But You (and I assume Iron Claw) as well.
I think Migration 100m is still on table. That A cinemascore is justified. My theater love the movie. As for Aquaman, since people are still believe that people like the movie more than WOM meters suggest, I would have to see how the jump of CD and Boxing Day to conclude that.
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I am totally emotionally invested in the movie! Yes, the movie is generic and formulaic but is fun and wildly entertaining! Now I can understand why the A cinemascore.
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8 hours ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:
Honestly these numbers are a lot better than I was expecting. It still would've been preferrable to see an actually big central tentpole like in previous years, but the wealth seems to be distributed fairly here at least. Aquaman 2 and Migration might both get to $100M, but poor word of mouth on the former and the latter not being received enthusiastically like Puss 2 was last year will prevent them from making much more methinks.
These numbers are better than expected but this season is still lacking a clear WOM sensation. This year the WOM across the board is a lot more shaky unless TCP surprises. Last year both Avatar sequel and PIB2 got A cinemascore and RT audience was comfortably above 90% with Posttrak 5 Stars. And 2021 famously feature 3 A+ cinemascore like NWH, Sing 2 and American Underdog.
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30 minutes ago, M37 said:
Some recovery on a walk-up friendly semi-holiday Thursday sure, but Friday sales always looked solid enough to me for an OW in the teens; just dropping the IM lower now that we have final (bigger) Th & Fri PS
Agree $100M would be a stretch, unless it’s “good enough” to leg out into Jan/Feb as the default option for families with younger kids
The problem is Wonka is also a very viable option out there for families. PIB2 last year had a perfect situation that Migration isn't coming close to enjoy that.
THE HUNGER GAMES: THE BALLAD OF SONGBIRDS AND SNAKES | 171.0M overseas | 337.4M worldwide
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Should either come near or hit 330m by Jan 2. The holiday bump should provide some extra money.