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    By The Sea | Angelina Jolie/Brad Pitt (Nov 13)

    in Box Office Discussion

    Posted

    32 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:

    Can we stop pretending Jolie has great directing talent and just hasn't gotten the right material now?

     

     

    Moreover a director with talent knows what material is worth-directing and what is not.

    Also a director with talent can misfire: not 3 times in a row.

     

    She didn't made Unbroken and By The Sea because she needed money but only because she thought they were "good" projects.

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    Winter SOTM 3: Brown vs Bond!

    in Chasmmi's Infamous Box Office Game

    Posted

     

     

    1) Peanuts Opening 5 days (until Tuesday)  vs  Spectre's best 2 days of its OW

    2) Peanuts Opening Tuesday percentage change vs Spectre Opening Tuesday Percentage Change ABSTAIN

    3) Peanuts' Final Gross - Epic Final Gross (107.5M)   vs   Spectre's final gross - Quantum of Solace Final Gross (168.4M)

    4) Peanuts' 2nd Weekend % drop  vs  Spectre's 4th Weekend % drop ABSTAIN

    5) Days it takes Peanuts to overtake Goosebumps vs Days it takes Spectre to Overtake Hotel Transylvania 2 (Fastest is winner)

    6) Peanuts Total from Day 15 of release vs Spectre total from day 15 of release ABSTAIN

    Chasmmi's Winter Game Week 4: Under the Spectre of Peanuts

    in Chasmmi's Infamous Box Office Game

    Posted

    1. Will Spectre open to more than 75M? YES

    2. Will Spectre open to more than 85M? YES

    3. Will Spectre open to more than 95M? NO

    4. Will Spectre opening weekend be higher than the rest of the top 10 combined? YES

    5. Will Peanuts open to more than 37.5M? YES

    6. Will Peanuts open to more than 47.5M? NO

    7. Will Spectre and Peanuts combine to more than 55M on Friday? NO

     

    8. Will Bridge of Spies finish within 500k of Goosebumps? YES

    9. Will the Last Witch Hunter finish above Burnt? NO

    10. Will the Intern stay in the top 11 this weekend? YES

    11. Will Scout's guide drop more than 72.5% this weekend? YES

    12. Will Trumbo have a PTA above $20,000? NO 

    13. Will at least one of Rock the Kasbah or Jem and the Holograms have a weekend PTA below $100? NO

    14. Will Our Brand is Crisis have a larger percentage drop than Paranormal Activity? NO

     

    15. Will Hotel Transylvannia have a $1M Sunday? YES

    16. Will The Martian cross $195M?  YES

    17. Will Crimson Peak increase less than 40% on Saturday? YES

    18. Name any film that drops less than 35% this weekend (or choose none for none)? BOS

    19. Will Sicario have a weekend above $1M?  YES

    20. Will Crimson Peak stay above $1000 PTA? YES

    21. Will this weekend ever be able to live up to the epicness of the previous two? I HOPE SO

     

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    Part 2. (5000 each)

     

    1. What will be the difference in 3 day gross between Spectre and Peanuts? 49,567 M

    2. What will be the combined percentage drop of Burnt, Crisis and Scout's Guide (eg 44+21+15= 80% total)? 177,45%

    3. What will The Martian and Bridge of Spies' combined Saturday gross be? 5,789 M

    4. What will the highest percentage drop in the top 20 be? -74,345 %

    5. What will the PTA of Jem be this weekend? 120$

     

    Part 3.

    3. MARTIAN

    7. BURNT

    9. CRISIS

    10. INTERN

    12. JOBS

    15. SICARIO

     

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    3000 bonus for 4 correct

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    Chasmmi's Winter Game Week 3: Our Brand was burnt by Zombies

    in Chasmmi's Infamous Box Office Game

    Posted

    Deadline is Thursday at 11:59pm, All questions refer to the top 12 and are for 1000 points UOS.

    Here Goes

    Part 1:

    1. Will a new opener debut at number 1? NO

    2. How many films ill make more than 10M this weekend? 1

    3. Will Burnt finish above Bridge of Spies? NO

    4. Will Jobs stay in the top 8? YES

    5. Will Scouts Guide make at least 40% of its opening weekend on Friday? YES

     

    6. Which of Week 2's openers will have the highest percentage drop? PA6

    7. Will Jem and the Holograms finish in the top 20? NO

    8. Will Paranormal Activity decreased more than 42% on Sunday? YES

    9. Will the Last Witch Hunter finish above Steve Jobs? YES

    10. Will Our Brand is Crisis make more than 3.5M on Saturday? NO

     

    11. Will at least 2 films in the top 12 not drop any positions this weekend? YES

    12. Will Goosebumps gross at least double the weekend gross for Last Witch Hunter? YES

    13. Will Hotel Transylvania's Saturday gross be higher than Scout Guides' total weekend Gross? YES

    14. Will the Walk drop at least 67% this weekend? YES

    15. Are zombies, Witches, ghosts or Vampires the biggest threat to our souls this Halloween? YES

     

    Part 2.

    1. What will The Intern gross on Friday? 1,028 M

    2. What will be the combined weekend gross of the 3 main new entries? 16,765 M

    3. What will Rock the Kasbah's percentage drop be this weekend?  66,3 %

     

    Part 3.

    1. THE MARTIAN

    3. GOOSEBUMPS

    7. WITCH HUNTER

    9. INTERN

    12. SICARIO

    2000 each and 5000 bonus for all 5.

    Chasmmi's Winter Game, Week 2: The Week that Box Office Forgot

    in Chasmmi's Infamous Box Office Game

    Posted

    1. Will Goosebumps stay at number 1 this weekend? NO

    2. Will Jem and the Holograms finish above Paranormal Activity?​ NO

    3. Will the Last Witch Hunter open in the top 3? NO

    4. How many of the 4 main new entries will open in the top 5? 2

    5. Will the Martian remain in the top 3? NO


    6. Will Crimson Peak drop more than 62%? NO

    7. Will Jobs make more than Bridge of Spies this weekend? YES

    8. Name any film in the top 12 that drops less than 30% this weekend without increasing (put none if you think none)? BOS

    9. Will pan finish above Sicario? NO

    10. Will Hotel Transylvania have the best Saturday increase? YES


    11. Will Rock the Kasbah have a better Friday than Jem and the Holograms? YES

    12. Will the Intern remain in the top 9? YES

    13. Which of the 4 new openers will have the best PTA? sJOBS

    14. Will Jem bomb completely and make less than $2M this weekend?  NO

    15. Will anybody go to the cinema this weekend? YES

     





    Bonuses:

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    Part 2.

    Bonus Question 1. What will be the total weekend gross for Jem and the Holograms? Are you obsessed with it? :D 2,567 M

    ​​Bonus Question 2. What will Job's Weekend percentage change be? +1090%

    Bonus Question 3. What will be Maze runner's total gross by Sunday? ​ 78,345 M



    Part 3.​​

    Placements:

    1. SJ
    4. BOS
    6. PA5
    9. ROCK THE KASBAH
    12. PAN

    Chasmmi's Winter Game, Week 1: A goose bumps into a bright red secretive bridge on a mountaintop

    in Chasmmi's Infamous Box Office Game

    Posted

    1. Will Goosebumps open to number 1 this weekend? YES

    2. Will Goosebumps open to more than $25M this weekend? YES

    3. Will at least two new openers outgross The Martian this weekend? NO

    4. Will Hotel Transylvania 2 drop less than 43% this weekend? YES

    5. Will Bridge of Spies have a higher PTA (per theatre average) than Crimson Peak? YES

     

    6. Will Pan increase more than 65% on Saturday? YES

    7. Will Jobs make more than $1.3m for the weekend? YES

    8. Will Black mass have a higher percentage drop than Scorch Trials on Sunday? NO

    9. Will The Walk cross $10M by the end of the weekend? YES

    10. Will Pan have a higher total gross than Sicario by the end of the weekend?  YES

     

    11. Will Woodlawn open in the top 7? NO

    12. Will the Intern have the best weekend drop in the top 10? YES

    13. Which film in the top 12 will have the best PTA? JOBS

    14. Will Crimson Peak make at least 37.5% of its opening weekend gross on Friday (including Thursday)? YES

    15. Is everyone now crazy excited that Jem and the Holograms is now just a mere one week away?!? NO

     

     

    Part 2.

     

    Bonus Question 1. What will be the total Friday gross for the top 3 new entries? 23,345 M

    ​​Bonus Question 2. What will be Pan's weekend percentage drop? 53,567%

    Bonus Question 3. What will be Jobs' PTA this weekend? ​38000

     

    Part 3.​​

     

    Placements:

     

    2. MARTIAN

    4. CRIMSON PEAK

    7. INTERN

    11. THE WALK

    13. EVEREST

     

    200o points per correct prediction. 5000 bonus for getting all 5.

    Chasmmi's Winter Game Pre-Season Prediction Thread

    in Chasmmi's Infamous Box Office Game

    Posted · Edited by Filmovie

    A

    TOP 15

    1. Star Wars VII 476 M

    2. Hunger Games – The Mockingjay part 2 373 M

    3. The Good Dinosaur 245 M

    4. Spectre 238 M

    5. The Peanuts 153 M

     

    1. The Revenant 127 M

    2. Joy 120 M

    3. Kung Fu Panda 3 115 M

    4. The Hateful Eight 113 M

    5. In the Heart of the Sea 103 M

     

    1. Daddy's Home 93 M

    2. The Night Before 91 M

    3. Bridge of Spies 87 M

    4. Goosebumps 83 M

    5. Ride Along 2 81 M

     

     

     

    B

    TOP 7

    1. Hunger Games – Mockingjay p2 143 M

    2. Star Wars – The Force Awakens 134 M

    3. Spectre 100 M

    4. The Good Dinosaur 58 M

    5. Peanuts 40 M

    6. Kung Fu Panda 3 39 M

    7. Deadpool 35 M

     

     

    C

     

    TOP 10 WW

    1. Star Wars VII 1166 M

    2. Hunger Games – The Mockingjay part 2 882 M

    3. Spectre 824 M

    4. The Good Dinosaur 586 M

    5. The Peanuts 428 M

       

    6. Kung Fu Panda 3 388 M

    7. The Renevant 275 M

    8. In the Heart of the Sea 263 M

    9. The Hateful Eight 252 M

    10. Goosebumps 248 M

     

     

    D

    • TOP 15 USA : 2540 M

    • TOP 7 WE: 549 M

    • TOP 10 WW: 5447 M

     

     

    E

    1. CHINA

    2. UK

    3. SOUTH KOREA

    4. FRANCE

    5. JAPAN

       

    6. GERMANY

     

     

     

     

     

    A generous risk-free question to start you off: Predict which film will finish closest to each of the following milestones domestically by the end of the game:

    A: 100M IN THE HEART OF THE SEA
    B: 200M SPECTRE
    C: 300M THE GOOD DINOSAUR
    D: 400M HUNGER GAMES 4

    Each correctly predicted film scores you 10,000 points, get all four correct and receive 10,000 bonus points for 50k total. (This is the only preseason question where there is no penalty for being wrong so enjoy it).

    1) Tell me which of these will be the highest grossing film of the winter domestically:

    1) Goosebumps 83 M
    2) Krampus
    3) Creed
    4) Concussion


    2) Tell me which of these will be the lowest grossing film of the winter domestically:

    1) Point Break
    2) The Nut Job 2 24 M
    3) Victor Frankenstein
    4) The Last Witch Hunter


    3) Will at least 3 films make more than 300M domestically by the end of the game?

    NO

    4) Will animated films combine to make more than 500M domestically by the end of the game?
    YES


    5) Will at least 2 films make more than 140M OW domestic?
    YES


    6) Will any film in the top 15 domestic have its domestic total outgrossed by its Chinese total?
    YES


    7) Will at least two months’ OW records be broken by the end of the game? (This is 3 day only)
    NO


    8) Will at least 2 of the 5 top grossing sequels/prequels/ become the top grossing film of their franchise by the end of the game?
    NO


    9) Will at least 5 different films in the top 15 be nominated for Oscars in either Acting, Best Song, Best Director, Best Screenplay or Best Animation or Best Film?
    YES


    10) Will the combined gross of the top 2 films domestic exceed 1 Billion Dollars?
    NO


    11) Will 300M dollars be closer to Kung Fu Panda 3’s Domestic total or its Chinese total?
    Chinese


    12) Will any foreign film gross more money (in dollars) in its local market than the 15th highest grosser domestically does in the USA?
    NO

     

    1. Will any film be pulled from the schedules at any point during the game due to fear of war with North Korea?
      NO

      14) Will any film not listed as wide on BOM by October 11th gross more than 200M dollars domestically?
      NO


      15) Which combination of films will gross the most amount of money domestically during the game?

      1) Mockingjay Pt 2, Bridge of Spies, The Night Before, In Heart of the Sea
      2) Spectre, The Good Dinosaur, The Hateful Eight, Krampus
      3) Crimson Peak, Peanuts, Kung Fu Panda 3, Goosebumps,
      4) Star Wars, The Revenant, The Danish Girl, Zoolander 2


      16) Which combination of films will gross the smallest amount of money during the game?

      1) Burnt, Macbeth, Alvin and the Chipmunks, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies
      2) Rock the Kasbah, Victor Frankenstein, Point Break, Ride Along 2
      3) Jem and the Holograms, Sisters, The Nut Job 2, 13 Hours: Secret Soldiers of Benzhagi
      4) Trumbo, Scouts Guide to Apocalypse, Deadpool, Daddy’s Home



      And Finally… The Return of the Jedi-centric questions:

      In celebration of Star Wars returning to the big screens, there is a special bonus section of Star Wars related fayre. Points structure is simple: 5000 for a correct answer, lose 3000 for an incorrect answer. You can abstain from every question and score 8,000 points you must answer all or nothing, any missing answers will be marked as incorrect:

      1. Will Star Wars Gross over 400M domestically? YES
      2. Will Star Wars Gross over 500M domestically? NO
      3. Will Star Wars Gross over 600M domestically? NO
      4. Will Star Wars Gross over 1B Worldwide? YES
      5. Will Star Wars Gross over 1.5B Worldwide? NO

     

    6. Will Star Wars finish top of all 3 main prediction charts? YES
    7. Will 350M dollars end up being closer to Star Wars’ Opening Weekend total than its final domestic total? NO
    8. If both are released before February 5th, will Star Wars’ China total be within 150M of Kung Fu Pandas’ (over or under) YES
    9. Will Star Wars end up being one of the three highest rated Star Wars films on RottenTomatoes at the end of the game? YES
    10. Will Star Wars have a domestic weekend increase at any point during the game? NO

     

    11. Will Star Wars get nominated for at least 3 Oscars? YES
    12. Will Star Wars manage at least 3 domestic weekends that are higher than Avatar’s comparative weekend totals in 2009/2010? NO
    13. Will Star Wars manage at least 7 domestic weekends that are higher than Titanic’s comparative weekend totals in 1997/1998? NO
    14. Will Star Wars gross more domestically in December than it does in January? YES
    15. Will Star Wars be number 1 at the domestic Box Office for at least 5 weeks (consecutive or non-consecutive)

    NO

    16. Will Star Wars’ combined total dollar gross from the UK and Australia exceed its domestic Opening Weekend total? YES
    17. Will Star Wars achieve more than 10 Million admissions in South Korea? NO
    18. Will China account for at least 20% of Star Wars’ worldwide total if released before February 1st? NO
    19. Will Star Wars’ opening day (including previews) be enough for it to make the top 15 domestic regardless of its subsequent box office? NO
    20. Will Star Wars still be in the domestic top 10 at the end of the game? NO

    ITALY (Botteghino): 'Inside Out 2' BREAKS opening-weekend record for Hollywood films

    in International Box Office

    Posted

     

    Cool! Minions has a shot at 2nd or 3rd all time and IO will definitely be in the top 5 or 7! Huge success for both films considering the market isn't growing!

    I remember edroger was saying no way Minions makes closer to Madagascar since the prices changed and the market slowed down..

    Italy is the surprise market of this summer!

     

    Minions likely won't pass nor M2 neither TLK. 

     

    Looking at this chart, I should spend 2 words:

     

    1. all animated movies before 2009 are 2D only. For Example Madagascar 2  (25 M EU)) had 4 M in attendance, the same of IA3 (30 M EU); Minions has 3,37 M

     

    2. this are "Cinetel" datas. This society started collecting number back in '94 but during the first years these datas were partial (Cinetel didn't control all the screens and cinemas). Older movies are disadvataged. For Example TLK made "19 M" Cinetel in '94 but the real number is "33 M". On the other hand, today Cinetel covers essentially the whole market (so its datas are complete).

    Obviously this process was gradual (so Finding Nemo number is also incomplete, but it was affected less than TLK). 

    So, in addition to 3D prices and inflation, this is a factor you should consider.

     

    3. This chart is made with attendance (complete - not with Cinetel datas), since 1980

     

    1. 8.640.000 - THE LION KING 1994

    2. 7.194.000 - ALADDIN 1993

    3. 5.957.000 - LA BELLA E LA BESTIA 1992

    4. 4.893.000 - IL GOBBO DI NOTRE DAME 1996

    5. 4.508.000 - MADAGASCAR 2 2008

    6. 4.392.000 - FINDING NEMO 2003

    7. 4.266.000 - ICE AGE 3 2009

    8. 4.076.000 - MADAGASCAR 2005

    9. 4.069.000 - SHREK 2 2004

    10. 4.024.000 - TARZAN (Disney) 1999

    11. 3.813.000 - SHREK 3 2007

       

      For Example M3 only has 3,0 M attendance, Minions is at about 3,4-3,5

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    ITALY (Botteghino): 'Inside Out 2' BREAKS opening-weekend record for Hollywood films

    in International Box Office

    Posted

    Incassi film d’animazione in Italia (since '94) 

     

    1. Ice Age 3 29.69

    2. Madagascar 2 25.09

    3. The Lion King 23.47=19.42 + 4.05 (3D)

    4. Minions 22,24

    5. Madagascar 3 21,91 mln

    6. Alla ricerca di Nemo 21.85

    7. Madagascar 21.20

    8. Shrek 2 20.84

    9. Shrek 3 20.24

    10. Frozen 19,37

    11. Ice Age 2 18.62

    12. Ratatouille 17.47

    13. A Christmas' Carol 17.08

    14. Kung fu panda 17.04

    15. Shrek 4 17.02

    16. Ice Age 4 16,57

    17. Puss in Boots 16.31

    18. I Simpsons – Il film 16.20

    19. Il gobbo di Notre Dame 16.13

    20. Despicable Me 2 15,96

    21. UP 15.78

    22. Gli incredibili 15.57

    23. Tarzan 15.04

    24. Toy Story 3 13.60

    25. Inside Out 13,58

    26. Despicable me 12.53

    27. Kung fu panda 2 12.53

    28. Cars  13.12

    29. I Croods 11,52

    30. Pocahontas 10.72

    31. Tangled 10.55

    32. Cars 2 10.45

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    ITALY (Botteghino): 'Inside Out 2' BREAKS opening-weekend record for Hollywood films

    in International Box Office

    Posted

    What was the reason for its hold? Holidays? What competition does it face in the coming weeks?

     

    No reason. WOM maybe! 3rd WE drop are worse than 2nd but the internal multiplier of the 2nd WE was ridicously amazing.

     

    Even with 50% drops from now on, 20 M EU are easily done.

     

    This is really the story of the year: no Minions, no Furious, no Cinderella, no 50 Shades, this is!

    ITALY (Botteghino): 'Inside Out 2' BREAKS opening-weekend record for Hollywood films

    in International Box Office

    Posted

    How does it compare to Minions and other animated flicks?

    I've a chart with top animated opening (I will share it when on Wed - when I'll have my pc back).

    Sunday is even bigger than Saturday! 6,3 M € in 5 days are Beyond any optimistic projection.

    Even if you use only Fri-sun We (how it used to be till Oct 2012), it is For sure the best Pixar opening and one of the best of all time.

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