Incarnadine
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14 minutes ago, wildphantom said:
Nolan making off with more profit from the summer than Disney at this rate.
That's not very hard to do this summer, he could find a quarter in the street and have more profit than Disney.😜
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33 minutes ago, Shawn said:
Share your final 2nd weekend predictions by 11:59pm ET tonight for Barbie and Oppy.
Closest on each gets a free month of Gold tier (no ads, more likes, etc.).
Must quote this post so it's easy to keep track!
Barbie: $97.27m
Oppie: $55.93m
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29 minutes ago, upriser7 said:
Both EC and Charlie say 25M for Barbie, 12M for Oppenheimer
The whole "Barbenheimer" phenomenon is fascinating. Has there ever been 2 competing movies from 2 different studios that have formed such a symbiotic relationship before?
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2 hours ago, The GOAT said:
60% female / 35% male
So, what's the other 5%?😜
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Just from a boxoffice perspective this is one of the most interesting films in quite some time.
From the way it was made, marketed and released I was thinking it would have a big opening weekend then probably struggle to get a 2x multiplier as it burned through its niche audience . But not only is it not front loaded it appears to have caught on to more mainstream audiences. Hell, it's already past 3x its opening weekend and still going strong.
No matter if you like the movie or not this is the kind of run that makes following boxoffice interesting.
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12 minutes ago, baumer said:
I'm Glad you came to me because if you're just getting into horror me being 50 years old and a child of the 80s I'm of course going to recommend the stuff that I grew up with. It's a lot different than horror movies are these days but in my opinion the quintessential ones that you have to see are
Halloween
Nightmare on elm Street
Friday the 13th 1-4
Psycho (1960)
My Bloody Valentine
These are all the original movies, don't touch the remakes start with the 70s and '80s films
I notice the ones you listed are of the slasher genre (I'd add Black Christmas to that list). Do you consider things like supernatural (like Poltergeist or The Amityville Horror) or creature features (like The Thing or The Blob) horror or separate genres?
I especially found The Thing (1982 version) scary as hell.
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9 minutes ago, baumer said:
Exactly they are going to find all the weaker films and taking away screens from them. Indy is not doing well but it's still going to be doing better than probably every film out there with the exception of maybe sound of freedom, in terms of holdovers.
Yup. The biggest effect for DoD, won't be screen loss, but rather screen shuffling where it gets moved from the biggest auditoriums to smaller ones.
That should have very little effect on boxoffice though, filling 60-70% of seats in a smaller auditorium is the same as 30-40% of a bigger one.
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1 hour ago, baumer said:
It's not going to lose that many theaters. What film or films are going to take Andy spot? Mission Impossible is going to open and over 4,000 theater and other than that there's nothing new coming out. Indy might lose 4 or 500 theaters, I doubt it's going to be a thousand.
500 or so sounds about right for DoD. The Flash, on the other hand, still has 1700 screens and virtually 0 revenue coming in on them so I wouldn't be surprised to see it losing 1500+ of its remaining screens.
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Finally caught up on this thread this morning.
Love the comedy discussion. Weird that I haven't seen Airplane! mentioned, unless I missed it.
For me it's impossible to pick just 1 single all time favorite, there are so many different types of comedy from different eras.
Airplane! and Porkys stick out for older ones, although most Leslie Nielson comedies were funny as hell back then.
Jim Carrey in his prime with Ace Ventura and Dumb and Dumber.
Pretty much all things Apatow.
There are the iconic star making ones like Superbad, Mean Girls, Clueless...
For me there are a handful of movies that I laughed so hard for most of the movie my sides literally ached...
There's something about Mary
American Pie
Scary Movie
Bridesmaids
Sausage Party
I do like seeing what people post, some of them I completely forgot about.
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On 7/4/2023 at 3:23 PM, Reddroast said:
I wouldn't say that. I had a friend who nearly died of laughter watching this
That was my reaction as well. When I saw it the entire theater was laughing their asses off.
I haven't laughed that hard at any movie since.
It did extremely well financially as well. A hard R animated comedy with a budget of $19m did $140m WW ($97.7m domestic, $43m international) with an opening weekend of $34.3m.
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55 minutes ago, wildphantom said:
Runaway Bride took 19 days to reach $100 million. Flash will beat it by one day, proving he’s not the slowest speedster on the map.
A win is a win!
19 days is a blink of an eye. If you want to see a movie legging it out to $100 million the champ is The Rocky Horror Picture Show at just under 40 years. Another 40 years and it might hit $200 million.😉
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I played a long time ago and built up over $2 billion, got bored and reset my account to start over and got to $2.4 Billion.
I haven't played in years now, maybe 1 or 2 trades a year. I still pop in there every so often, it does have a good release schedule list showing every movie coming out for the next 2 months.
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I've only been back here a short time after being away from this board for a few years, but some things haven't changed.
I was just looking to see if there were any new numbers out and I went back 3 pages and pretty much nothing but SW discussion.
I'm not bitching about it, I just find it amusing that some things are still the same here.😄
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I saw this yesterday at an early showing (2 pm). Theater was 25%-30% full, which is decent for an early show.
I quite enjoyed it. While it doesn't rank among the top of it's genre it was definitely above average.
I was a bit surprised by "that" scene, not that it was there, but that it wasn't just a quick flash and instead a fairly lengthy scene.
I'm still a bit surprised a movie like this even got made in the current environment, while in the past they were fairly common. After it ended I was thinking it share a number of similarities to Can't Buy Me Love (1987).
Maybe a bit generous, but I'd give it a 7/10
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26 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:
Pink Popcorn, that takes me back. I used to love the stuff as a kid.
I'd totally try some if theaters offered it.
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It's a bit early yet, but Barbie is starting to sound like one of those rare movies that become a phenomenon before release.
If these early sell outs continue the closest comparison I can think of was the insane hype before The Hunger Games came out.
For THG every showing sold out weeks before release and theaters kept adding more screens and showtimes and those would sell out to the point that some multiplexes were dedicating 75% of all showings to THG on opening weekend.
Other movies had sell outs weeks in advance (things like the fist Avengers movie and The Force Awakens), but those were more expected to do so and I don't recall them adding many more showtimes than were originally scheduled as those were pretty much market saturated to start with.
I'm not sure I'd have seen this in the theater, but it is sounding like an event movie so I'll be there now.
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13 minutes ago, Reddroast said:
I agree ALL of this especially Marketing. Does anyone remember when studios used to out a poster and a teaser trailer a year in advance for their events? I do.
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9 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:
I think Sony is betting on the hope that this can be their sleeper hit like another Where Crawdads Sings. That movie was critically trashed but audience ate it up (96% RT score ; A- cinemascore). This is something I expect NHF to replicate here given raunchy comedy rarely please critics.
I really miss truly funny raunchy comedies. I saw American Pie, Scarey Movie, There's Something About Mary and Sausage Party on their opening nights with absolutely packed theaters and those were some of my fondest movie going memories and I remember laughing so hard my sides hurt.
I don't know if it's even possible for movies like that to get made now, studios play it too safe and too many people are too easily offended and it's killing comedy.
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9 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:
At least started with 94% verified audience score (<50 votes)
I take it as a good sign the studio felt confident enough to have a sneak preview a week before release. I can't see them doing that if they thought it would bomb or get a poor reception.
I almost went yesterday, but the time and distance to the theaters that had the preview put me off. I'll be seeing it this weekend, along with Asteroid City.
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11 hours ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:
FYI, there are sneak previews tomorrow in some markets (US).
This got tons of ads during the NBA playoffs. Can't say they made me more excited to see it...
I was perusing showtimes for today trying to decide if I wanted to see anything today when I noticed the sneak previews today.
As far as I can tell just 3 theaters have 1 showing today at 7 pm.
I'm on the fence about going as none of the 3 theaters are all that close to me and I'm more of an early bird when it comes to seeing movies.
I like to make a day of it, do some light shopping, have a good lunch then see a movie.
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1 hour ago, baumer said:
For what it's worth, I drove an hour today to go watch the Boogeyman. To say I was disappointed would be the understatement of the day. I really thought with the combination of Stephen King and the apparent audience fear factor that this would really be something that appeals to me. Obviously I can't get into spoilers in this thread but this movie is filled with horror movie cliches and it suffers from the same stupidity as a film like The Strangers did. Eventually, as I sat in the theater all by myself, I started yelling at the screen for the characters to do what normal people would do in those situations.
These last few years of horror movies have really been hit or miss for me. Maybe it's because I'm in my fifties now and I just don't connect with the horror movies that are made anymore but I really thought this one was going to be good.
That's a shame, I was actually considering seeing this as the trailers didn't look too bad and Sophie Thatcher is my favorite of the young versions of the cast in Yellowjackets (Christina Ricci as Misty for the adult versions).
Your review carries some weight with me as I also hate stupidity in movies and I'm also in my 50's.😜
I'll probably check it out once it is free , which probably won't be too far off in the future.
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21 minutes ago, von Kenni said:
Merch can be lucrative and it's a question mark for TLM. That said, Frozen was a huge anomaly or lightning in the bottle that TLM isn't. Another factor is that often the merch revenue is a very small share of the actual sales. It's been a long time since I had dealings with merch licensing but out of my head, the actual income can be 5-15% of sales. That said, maybe Disney can handle the value chain more efficiently. So if TLM sells $100m merch the studio profits $10m...$20m out of it. For Frozen that might have been ten-fold altogether if it made that $1B in merch sales.
I honestly have no idea of the actual profit margin for Disney merchandise, maybe it is as low as you say for the big stores (Target, Walmart, etc.), but Disney also has their own stores as well as what they sell in their theme parks and I would expect their margins are higher than what they get from the big retailers.
In any event, I expect TLM to eventually make a small profit once all the revenue streams are accounted for, but Disney can't be happy given the amount of money they put into it.
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9 minutes ago, Mr Terrific said:
Incarnadine brings up a good point.
Disney has a more ways to draw revenue. Merchandise is a big part of their equation. Does doing a TLM live-action movie gross $10 million more in merch than not doing one? $50 million?I have no sense of this.
Merchandise is huge for Disney, but can vary immensely from movie to movie.
I mentioned Frozen, but that was a true outlier and can't really be used as a comparison for other Disney movies.
I don't recall the exact numbers, but merchandise sales for Frozen were well over a Billion before Frozen was even out of the theaters.
Several sites were reporting sales weekly and stores (Disney, Target, Walmart, etc) were selling out the same day a shipment would come in and people were taking picture of the empty shelves where Frozen merchandise was supposed to be. They were even limiting how many items people could buy.
I don't know where you could find merchandise sales these days, but I do know Marvel merchandise sales are pretty strong and merchandise for classic Disney animated movies has been steady for years (so they are still making money from old titles).
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It has been a long time since I've posted here. I kind of lost interest when theaters got closed during the "pandemic" and never really got back into following boxoffice, but I'm starting to find it interesting again.
I guess I'll start my musings with TLM. Given it's budget ($250m) and marketing costs ($100m to $140m) it seems like it will most likely break even or have a small loss when only counting money from the theatrical release. If I recall correctly the standard for breaking even was a WW total of 2.5x its budget or 2x budget + marketing costs which would be anywhere from a low of $625m to a high of $780m to break even, so about $700 in the mid range.
Of course once the other revenue streams (TV and video sales and most especially merchandise) it will end up being profitable overall, just not as much as Disney was counting on.
I'm actually very curious to see how TLM merchandise revenue will be as that can be far more profitable if a movie strikes the right cord.
I still remember Frozen, Disney made a huge profit just from the theatrical release, but that was dwarfed by the merchandise sales (I still see tons of Frozen stuff in the stores)
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Barbie | July 21, 2023 | Warner Bros | Margot Robbie is Barbie. Ryan Gosling is Ken. | Second most profitable movie of 2023
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Looks like everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. I just turned on the LPGA Evian Championship and everything is BARBIE pink and white. The stands, flags, the vests the officials and caddies are wearing and even the graphics when describing yardage and green contours is pink and white, but no actual Barbie ads that I can see.