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5 minutes ago, TiagoRodrigues said:
I agree.
Also, It's 2021 and Sony's 2 comic book movies outgrossed Disney's 3 at the box office:
1: Spider-Man - Sony
2: Venom 2 - Sony
3: Shang Chi - Disney
4: Eternals - Disney
5: Black Widow - Disney
There's no way to spin this. You all know that if a year ago someone had told you guys this would happen you wouldn't believe it.
It IS a huge success story for Sony. And no, Sony isn't some poor company, but they are on their way to have one of the most successful comebacks with most of their businesses at the same time and it's fun to watch and root for the underdog here. We all know Disney Marvel will be fine. But this year has been fun to watch.
Sony is also seemingly the only major studio left fully committed to 100% theatrical runs. I'm happy to see this pay off for them twice this year.. three times if you count the very solid Ghostbusters numbers. Disney claims to support theatrical, but doing stuff like Black Widow hybrid release (after F9 made solid money) and Encanto getting shoved onto D+ before a lucrative Christmas bump could happen make it pretty obvious they don't actually care, or their resolve is flimsy at best.
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We couldn't have fudged this $22k to get that sweet $60k theater average?
In any case those are amazing, spectacular, and superior box office numbers. Glad to see it happening. Set targets for Endgame and TFA and take it all home, Spidey.
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47 minutes ago, VanillaSkies said:
Was coming here to say this. I'm in Ontario, and murmurs are abundant that we are not far behind.
Theatres were packed this weekend, so Canada is still going to contribute somewhat to the total gross, but yeah, the lucrative Christmas period has been cut short.
Quebec has shut down until *at least* January 10th, but likely longer.Late legs to help weekend holds through January supplied by Canada?
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3 minutes ago, CJohn said:
Europe and other parts of America will follow soon. January will see the world back in lockdown.
Idk based on the memo from the White House their stance seems pretty clear...
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11 minutes ago, Daxtreme said:
BREAKING: Cinemas are 100% FULLY CLOSING in Quebec starting tonight at 5 PM
(French for those who can read it)
https://www.journaldequebec.com/2021/12/20/covid-19-le-ministre-christian-dube-fera-le-point-a-13h
I'm guessing other Provinces will partially follow suit, Ontario for sure.
That will hurt domestic prospects. Canada isn't huge but it's still 10% of the domestic BO
Goddamn it, Canada
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10 minutes ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:
The bad faith box office takes from people who pay attention to it (like the types insisting Disney bought up all the Captain Marvel tickets) are obnoxious enough, but the ones from awards/culture writer types who don't really follow it closely...truly abysmal and idiotic.
Obviously, No Way Home is from Sony.
It also wasn't out last week when West Side Story barely hit the low end of its tracking, and many other awards hopefuls from a variety of studios have mostly underwhelmed all year, playing to more empty seats than theaters and studios would have liked. Things finally hit a boiling point this weekend and it does suck about Nightmare Alley having opening weekend screenings canceled. But looking at the whole year, this weekend was like theaters saying to the prestige audience, "Sorry, but we've given you chance after chance to show up for MONTHS, you didn't, so we've got money to make."
I think the intentions in having Nightmare Alley in theaters now were actually good. In the past, even if you we're like the 4th or 5th biggest thing out during the holiday season you could make bank. In hindsight a fatal miscalculation, given the current landscape and the movie itself, a pretty bleak and cynical affair for any time of year, let alone Christmas during a pandemic.
Nightmare Alley directly against Spidey was piss-poor scheduling anyway. The two are supposed to have different enough audiences and should co-exist, but you can't go up against a 4-quadrant event film and expect not to get creamed. The few that have managed that are the exceptions, not the rule.
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3 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:
did someone just say $600M worldwide opening?
Yes.
Without China
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53 minutes ago, Danhjpn said:
THU previews 50M
FRI 71.9M +43.6% (121.9M including THU previews)
SAT 73.9M +2.9% from FRI alone (-39% from FRI including THU previews)
SUN 64.2M -13% from SAT
260M 3-day weekend.
Not that I’m ungrateful about this AMAZING number but goddamn it we needed $160k more for a $60k PTA
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33 minutes ago, RRA said:
Boy a week makes a big difference don’t it? The powerful of King Kevin to make people demand a sequel to a franchise that previously many of them would rather eat puke than watch.
The first one is a fine enough movie. It kind of falls a bit flat since it doesn’t really do enough to differentiate itself from the 2002 movie which was a great origin story.
The second one is a real mess though. Weird choices abound though the suit is good and Garfield/Stone do the best with what they have to work with.
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3 minutes ago, Knights of Ren said:
Prequel memes > Raimi memes
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I haven't seen much of the TV shows and miniseries. Some episodes of What If? are cool but not really anything amazing. Black Widow was okay for the first two acts but instead of trying to keep it a fairly grounded spy film they went with a dumb cgi castle in the sky. Shang Chi is similar for me I really liked the first two acts but then things got too fantastical when I wish they would have stuck with martial arts. Eternals was boooooring and just plain uninteresting to me.
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I also see a significant boost for Multiverse of Madness. Idk if it will do $400 million, but it's prime to have a similar increase as Thor did between it's 2nd and 3rd films.
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5 minutes ago, Knights of Ren said:
So how much does Venom 3 make OW if Andrew Garfield is in the movie ? 😦
Definitely a $150m contender
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1 minute ago, Menor said:
If NWH gets the Monday record then Spider-Man owns both Mon and Tues.
Wonder if ROTS Thu will ever be topped. Maybe if we get to noon "previews" someone will eventually abandon the fiction that Thursday is still like "previews," and it will fall.
If someone would just randomly open a long awaited movie on a Thursday (properly, not previews) then yeah I don't see why it won't.
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$260.16 gets us a $60k PTA.
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3 minutes ago, GoblinXXR said:
If it is $65M ($65M.1 to be exact) then my comp nailed it and would push my day-prior comp for Monday to $35M. Assuming Monday is 100 basis points higher as an increase vs Sunday which should be more day-prior presale heavy, then we MIGHT be looking at $42M tomorrow.....
TFA and Avatar both dipped around 33/34% so that definitely gets us to $42 million.
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2 minutes ago, Eric Osborn said:
The characters are what truly made this such a lame experience. They had such an incredible cast, full of some of the most dynamic and memorable actors working today. But aside from K-2S0, I can't remember a single detail about any of them. Star Wars works as well as it does because the characters are so engaging and memorable and endearing (that's what helps a lot of the Sequel Trilogy's issues, just how fun and memorable the cast is), but Gareth Edwards just...forgot to write personalities for his cast? Still rooting for that Cassian Andor show though, because Diego Luna is wonderful and pure and deserves the world.
Coming from someone who also had to sit through Godzilla 2014 after getting blue-balled by marketing on how much Cranston was in it, I was unsurprised at Edwards inability to write characters tbh
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2 minutes ago, Eric Osborn said:
Yeah pretty much. Every time I see people go "Rogue One is the best", I just don't get it. I mean the climax is cool, but everything else is just a snorefest.
Coming off the high of TFA, Rogue One is one of the most boring movies I've ever seen. Great plot idea, good actors, but damn it just did nothing for me. That said I will simp for Felicity Jones until I die
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Star Wars Holiday Special is the best Star Wars. It's so good Lucas won't let anyone see it because it makes everything else in the franchise look shitty in comparison
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Wait so is Thor in Guardians 3 or are the Guardians in Thor 4? I've seen both scenarios thrown around or maybe I'm confusing them
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3 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:
i remember one person tried to get an applause going when Han Solo showed up when i went to the force awakens midnight show. really embarrassing. dude must've got lost and thought he was in the US i dunno what was going on there.
I've become pretty tired of the clapping and cheering. I guess I should start catching these fan-heavy movies at 10am Sunday morning or something. No Way Home wasn't that bad, it was the usual moments you'd expect and didn't last long enough to really ruin a scene. Endgame was a fucking nightmare though. Every time a character made a sideways glance the audience lost their goddamn minds. I'm pretty sure the entire last hour was nonstop audience yelling.
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rank the pokemon movies?
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10 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:
63+
I see EC gave 64+. That is what I also think but I have a gut that Sony may adjust down Sat & in doing so also Sunday projection will come down. Happened with Venom Sunday.
Any idea how far Sat might go down? Right now $121.8, $73.8, and $63 gets us to $256.8. We’re close to IW but looks like it could go either way by just a bit
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28 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:
I also think $64m+ is happening today.
Insane.
No Way Home Weekend Thread | #RIP AIW Record | 260M OW DOM | 340M OS | 600M OW WW W/O CHINA
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If we're talking pure numbers they did beat them. Of course Disney benefits greatly from this too. I'm not sure what the new deal was for box office revenue and all that or how much Disney gets percentage wise, but regardless if Sony gets 50% or 100%, Disney will be getting merchandising money and all the extra shit like that pretty much all to themselves.