Thrylos 7
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2 hours ago, druv10 said:
I don't understand the constant bickering around EG and it's legs. Whether it beats Avatar WW should be secondary, just enjoy this run. It has made nearly 600M more than IW and will finish over 700M. Think about that for a second, it's destroying IW WW, not one territory IW will beat EG. In some cases it won't be even close. With the constant arguing people lose sight of the bigger picture EG is over $2.6B WW, wait for a sec and think about that number. Who in the hell saw this performance coming.
I saw it doing much better than IW almost a year ago and it is actually in the first pages of this thread. I expected around 2.5-2.6 billion WW.
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33 minutes ago, cdsacken said:
Endgame will be over 2.7B by June 2nd and everyone will stop talking about it missing Avatar except Avatar stans.
Where would it find around 90 million$$ more in June to pass Avatar ?
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1 hour ago, titanic2187 said:
Frankly, many especially fanboys dismiss Twilight just because it is young-adult romance chick flick, which so happen many movie-buff are male or simply fanboys, which more often than not disregard romance genre simply because it is not cool to like them.
Nope that’s not it. Can someone honestly tell me that these films don’t have some of the worst acting ever in big blockbusters ? Not many people hate kind of similar stuff like hunger games or even true blood for example. The objective truth is that the twilight films are horrible in every sense, hilarious acting, funny effects, embarrassing moments . At least other horrible films have spectacle to offer , these films don’t. Now one can like these horrible films, I like my fair share of objectively awful films (though most don’t have 1% of twilight’s budget) but don’t present reasons such as “these are chick flicks, fanboys e.t.c” to explain why many people don’t like them.
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3 minutes ago, Nova said:
It feels like someone said "hey these movies suck!" and suddenly that's the opinion everyone went with despite the fact that for example The Twilight films kept increasing at the box office world wide and more or less stayed the same domestically……so people "hated" them and thought they "sucked" and yet still went out and watched the next movie in the series.
No I am not equating box office with quality exactly BUT typically when a movie in a series sucks or isn't well liked, the following movies suffer. That didn't happen with the Twilight films.
Yes many young girls liked the twilight films.
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Just now, baumer said:
and yet it's amazing isn't it, you can hate something and I can love something and yet we can still get along. What a novel concept isn't it.
We can even exchange words, I don’t mind because I know you won’t use personal insults (and I mean true personal insults not what some people here take as personal insults) and it will be a fun time arguing. I used to have some people on ignore, now I have un-ignored everyone (but a racist that I won’t say his name) because I want to read the forum in all of its glory.
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6 minutes ago, Nova said:
I honestly feel like people hate on the Twilight movies cause it's the cool thing to do. Now I don't think they're master pieces or anything but I ended up watching all of them within the past year and I was expecting some dumpster fire films based on the rep they have but they were actually fairly decent.
No people hate them because they have laughable “acting” (if you can even call it that), present the most sissy version ever of horror icons like vampires and werewolves and have a hilarious love story. It is like taking the absolutely worst elements of soap operas and applying them on fantasy/“horror” films. There’s nothing cool or uncool about hating a franchise that has been dead and buried for many years.
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18 minutes ago, baumer said:
The story with me in Twilight goes like this:
In the summer of 2009 after I had seen the original Twilight and thought it was fine but nothing great, I picked up the first book and within about 25 pages I was completely hooked. That summer I spent two weeks at my buddy's cottage and I read the first three books in those two weeks while sipping on beer and getting a suntan in a boat.
I finished the last two books before New Moon came out and that was it for me I was completely enamored with the mythology that Stephanie Meyers created. I loved the volturi. I loved that there was a ruling class of vampires and I love that she gave each vampire their own special power. I know it's not a story that appeals to a lot of guys but I just got it, I just understood it.
I thought new moon was much better than Twilight. I thought eclipse was one of the best movies of 2010. I thought the first part of breaking Dawn was a bit too much filler but breaking Dawn Part 2, especially the way they did Alice's vision and the subsequent fight at the end that really didn't take place at all, to be quite brilliant.
I will stand up for Twilight probably until the day I die. Like I said I don't expect anybody else to understand it but I just adored the books and the movies.
Ok....deflector shields are up. Fire away lol.
To be honest I don’t even have words that can express my horror about the few twilight films that my, then, girlfriend dragged me to watch at the theater.
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27 minutes ago, baumer said:
Transformers 2
Transformers 3
Armageddon
Twilight
New Moon
Eclipse
Breaking Dawn
All kinds of shitty horror movies
The Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
These are just some of the movies I love that I have taken flack for over the years. So many time people have ridiculed me for having "strange taste in film" or I get the comment, "baumer you sure are unique." And I don't complain or get upset when people tell me I'm crazy for liking what I like. No one should really care what anyone else thinks of whatever film you like. We all have different opinions and we all like what we like. Getting upset or calling someone a bully because they tell you that a certain film sucks, is pretty immature. Why some of you care so much when ONE person hates a film you like, is really confounding.
Try being me from 2008-2012 when I professed my love for Twilight.
So don't get so worked up because I hated US. 
Hahahaha i understand everything BUT the twilight films.
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Meh your post was quite mild. The fact that someone brought up your age is the despicable thing here but whatever. I was banned because some kid that does tracking did it all wrong about endgame , ignoring a gazillion tickets it had presold before the last week prior to ow and comparing it to other movies just for the last 4 days before ow and telling everybody to be conservative. I posted one line about how this is wrong, he threw a long tantrum (about children’s films and whatever) , I replied with another single line post telling him that if he doesn’t have the time he should stop , he threw another tantrum with a looooong post that ended with a “fuck you” declaring himself a......bad ass while begging the mods to ban me, I replied with 4-5 words saying that i don’t care, the mob chimed in and i was banned.
Funny thing I turned out to be right about his mistake on the “tracking” method he used (since endgame did a crazy ow) and it’s not that I care about my ban or anything (not even posting here much if at all) but it was a nice example about how these people that were so offended with baumer’s post operate.
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32 minutes ago, terrestrial said:
Disagree to the strongest.
You can say in lots of ways you disagree without going that route
Even worse
Bullying-ish at best
People call you out for not needed style and you are reacting in that way, implying them are reacting that way.
The only one reacting rather strongly (and in my POV way over the top / annoying,...) seems - in this case - being you.
He is actually being quite kind and gentle towards these specific people. If this was a forum with no paying members and without a moderation system that allows the mob to demand bans then you would see how some crybabies whose cinematic knowledge ends at the most recent blockbusters and who think that they know it all, would be dealt with.
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Wow John Wick 3 already passed part 2 overseas, cool....
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Wow this thread unexpectedly delivers the goods.
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44 minutes ago, baumer said:
I just threw up in my mouth and almost choked.
You are taking the people of this forum seriously ? Come on now......
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13 minutes ago, baumer said:
I agree with you 1000%.
a few days ago I was watching an old troma film called graduation day with Christopher George. That movie had a budget of about $5.25 and it was a better made movie than Us in every way. Us was a horrible debacle of a movie.
Well Christopher George rocked in every movie he was in !!!
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36 minutes ago, baumer said:
So endgame has approximately 164 million left to get past Avatar. I'm actually worried now that it won't get past it. I really hope it does but it's fading pretty quickly in every market it seems like.
164 million more worldwide seems achievable but who can tell ? Aladdin will be its first serious competition in worldwide markets next weekend. As you wrote actuals don’t matter, 2-3 more million won’t make a big difference.
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7 minutes ago, JB33 said:
People clearly aren't allowed to have their own opinion on this Endgame legs/drops thing. Whatever.
Haha, the extreme reactions I see are actually very entertaining, so much wasted energy from some folks.
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31 minutes ago, baumer said:
As so many have mentioned already, EG didn't just break the OW record, it fucking tortured it, hung it, revived it so it could draw and quarter it, cut off it's balls, removed its eyeballs with a dull spoon and then ate it raw and spit it out. 100 million dollar increase from an already insane OW is just ridiculous. So to see it have legs like Civil War instead of Avengers, isn't alarming, surprising, concerning or jarring. Just because we all think we have a grasp of the box office, doesn't mean we actually do. Some of us have been dissecting the minutia of the BO for more than 25 years and still we are fed big poop sandwiches once in a while.
Did I think the legs on this would be closer to 2.6 than 2.4? Yep, I did. I thought it would get to 900 but not pass TFA. But when you satisfy that much upfront demand and when people are seeing your film 3 times in three days, you really have nowhere to go but down. So the film is not having poor wom and the legs are bad in a purely literal sense, but if you dig a little deeper and dream a little bigger darling, you'll see that the film is behaving perhaps in the only way it possibly could.
Honestly and I am quoting you because you are one of the very few people here that have actually something to say (unlike the usual mob) believe me (and you know if I am a marvel fan or not since 2001 when we had our first arguments), there is a big part of the MCU fanbase that didn’t enjoy the film. They didn’t hate it, just didn’t enjoy it enough for repeat viewings. Whether it is in forums, social media, anecdotal evidence e.t.c it is simply the truth. Yes the movie did gigantic, many people had to see it being the event that it was but consider this :matrix reloaded did terrific business when it was released , was it really that beloved ? Were the POTC sequels that beloved ? Hell was spider man 3 that beloved or even “return of the Jedi” ? Not everything is black and white. To be honest I don’t even believe that the world went nuts for avatar , it just became the talk of the town and did these amazing numbers, everybody had to see it because of the technology mostly.
If EG had managed to capitalize on its monstrous opening it would have done over 3 billion WW and easily beat TFA in the U.S, the competition it is having in the theaters is laughable (a Pokémon semi failure film, an R-rated niche action film and an already scrutinized live action remake from a cartoon).
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50 minutes ago, Barnack said:
Historically long movie and OW record breaker had good multiplier even outside December, Spider-Man, first Potter, Dark Knight, Avengers, Jurassic World.
There is some exception outside the MCU, Spider Man 3, Deathly Hallows 2.
A good comparable of why the low multiplier is Deathly Hallows Part 2, much more than runtime imo (lower run time we probably have an higher OW and similar if not worst legs multiplier).
It is not just a case of burning demand and runtime, there is something about how mediocrre the WOM probably among people not invested in the saga must be, that do not create the usual Giant OW help multiplier instead of hurting it (like Beauty, Black Panther, Jurassic World, etc...) phenomenom we see, it must be impossible for someone that have seen all the MCU before this one to feel like a newcomer can feel watching this.
It was one of the worst competently made big budget movie watching experience for me for a good part of the runtime, the giant one of the great last hour easily make up for it and will give great cinemascore/out of theater buzz, but good start for a movie is where a lot of rewatch/staying power can come from.
WOM is mediocre even amongst people invested in the saga. One look at any comic book forum is enough, don’t let the bubble of this forum fool you. Nice point about the giant OW help multiplier too, usually a giant OW (let alone an opening weekend like this, an unprecedented one) can create a snowball effect making the film a must see for almost everyone based on hype alone. Instead this OW seems to be used as an excuse for the legs that we are seeing, something that previous huge OW films like the ones you mention or even TFA avoided with ease, having huge OW AND good to great legs. The only movie that I can think of, that wasn’t a dud like BvS, that faced similar issues is HP:DH2 , all the other huge OW movies had good multipliers.
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1 hour ago, tawasal said:
That isn't really good considering IW was facing a 125m opener that weekend unlike EG's JW3 competition.
Thank you. It barely beat infinity war without having to face Deadpool 2.
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2 minutes ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:
I don’t get how Shazam is being seen as an L, with it’s production budget of $100M, a $360M WW Gross is damn profitable.
No it is not when adding marketing costs.
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56 minutes ago, KJsooner said:
You know it has already passed IW and will beat Avatar within a couple days right?? I don’t get the stupid logic of people being upset this movie didn’t have the best legs. Still a massive success.
Thanks for the info, I didn’t know that...whatever...
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16 hours ago, KJsooner said:
If it opened to 275 mil ow, and did 850 mil domestic, would you consider that bad?
That question makes zero sense. It is all relevant. Yes had it opened, for example, at 100 million and did 850 million it would be considered a titanic-like box office run. You can even apply that to movies that failed, had BvS opened at 100 million and then did 330 million it would have been considered a success. The thing is that post-ow both infinity saga movies had weak legs in the U.S and these legs costed them some box office milestones that seemed certain after the ow. Nobody is saying that they weren’t gigantic box office successes , some people should stop oversimplifying things so much to win an argument. Both movies had worse legs than expected in the U.S compared to their OW. For me, endgame dropping in dailies behind IW is shocking.
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5 hours ago, danhtruong5 said:
835 + 630 + 1308 = 2773
If it can not pass Avatar, it is more because of the DOM than the OS. The OS of EG overall is higher 30% than IW, bringing the best opportinity for EG to pass Avatar in a decade but the DOM is just .... dissappointed.
Yep. Just like IW didn’t pass TFA because of domestic, EG might not pass Avatar because of domestic. People can scream and laugh and whatever but for both of these films the legs in the U.S , considering the OW/good reviews/generally favorable audience reception, were average to bad. IW after opening at around 260 million failed to do 700 million and endgame is dropping hard right now in the U.S after a freakin 360 million ow. I love how some people yell “830 million is bad ?”, well after a 360 million opening weekend yes it is. It’s all relevant.
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Horrible endgame number. Down from infinity war...wow.
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So don't get so worked up because I hated US. 
The Invisible Man | Feb 28 2020 | Will be available on VOD Friday March 20
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Oh Universal why couldn’t you make a decent dark universe ? Blumhouse and shitty casting thus far, this has all the potential to be dreadful but at least its budget will be extremely low. As a fan of classic universal monsters this is sad....