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I feel like people are finding excuse for AOU under performing. The Derby and NHL/NBA playoff happen every year during May. Nobody brings those up during the last couple of years.
I don't think that there are any excuses for it under-performing. Disney chose what weekend to open the movie on. They have to deal with whatever competition there is from other movies or other forms of entertainment.
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It's been 8 years, I think it's safe to say spoilers. Bad luck!
I think you waited long enough to give spoilers.
Oh and at the end of Titanic, the ship sinks!
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Yep Tom Brady was at the Derby in the Afternoon and Fight by the evening. Also I know not all sports fans watch the Draft all four days or even the Derby. It's not about looking at each event individually. It's about looking at them all Together and you see people Entertainment options were spread pretty thin over the weekend. Look, Americans love their sports. We are obsessed in this country. Hopefully this will help Ultron legs though I already feel it may show some signs of frontloadedness.
You're right. It was a major day for sports. There was sports all day and night.
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Also look at the times of each event:
Derby - Afternoon
NBA Playoffs - Evening
NFL Draft - Afternoon and evening
May Vs Manny - Late Night
I mean Sports locked up Saturday pretty much all day. Not shocked by the Westcoast stories I'm hearing.
Don't forget the NY Rangers playoff game and the Yankees vs. Red Sox baseball game.
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Actuals will increase. Mark my words.
I'm thinking $190m actuals.
I just liked Noctis' post. Noctis is now the voice of optimism about TA: AOU. This is a very weird weekend indeed.
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Spider-Man 3? Not the prettiest of comparisons, but probably true.
If TA: AOU wins the year like SM3 did, then it's actually a pretty good comparison. But, that's far from guaranteed.
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I'm not even sure what numbers would constitute good/bad/whatever for Ant-Man. Right now, I'm thinking it'll be a win if it just manages to do the 2x its budget thing.
CA:TFA adjusted is about $180M. I think if it does $180M, then that would be good.
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Yeah...
Here's a brief rundown in Avengers numbers here:
Friday - 3413
Saturday - 3,080
Sunday - 2,878 - with 10 shows left today
Am I reading that right? There are 10 shows left and without those 10 shows your theater has sold only 200 less tickets than Saturday?
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I completely forgot about that.. I wonder how the critics will be toward that movie and the concept of it given that it'll basically be TA2.5??
We know it will have Spider-Man crossing over with Iron Man, so that should be worth something. The critics will probably like it because it will be superheroes battling each other and taking sides. Also, it will be a Captain America movie, so it won't have those Avengers expectations at the BO, which should make for an enjoyable box office run.
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Despite the fact that I have honored my loss, a little part of me died inside changing my username to this.. I will however, bounce back from this for INFINITY WAR, Even if it is 3 Years away...
No you won't. You'll bounce back with CA: Civil War and you'll do it next year!
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Why do we keep bringing Potter up?
It's going to gross more than any of the Potter movies.
Even when you adjust for inflation, this statement is true. This should be the final word on the subject....but I know it won't be.
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Another thing about the fight: a lot of people are probably feeling ripped off. It was a huge letdown. It is not like TA2 has out of this world WOM like TA1 did. I could understand people being very cautious to spend any money on another piece of entertainment that might just be a letdown along the lines of the fight.
I don't think TA2 has bad WOM, I think it has good WOM. But it needs incredible WOM to help convince someone who feels burned by the fight yesterday to run right out the next day and shell out God knows how much money in tickets and concessions for their family.
I think next weekend will be very interesting to watch.
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I actually think DH2 might have been able to top AoU in ticket sales on OW.
It didn't, so I am not sure what you mean by might have.
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It seems Disney earned a lot of money with Ultron with food companies tie ins with all the doritos, sodas etc
Is there a Marvel theme Park in the pipeline from Disney or just Marvel rides added into Disney worlds ?
Disney is contractually prohibited from adding Marvel rides to Walt Disney World in Florida. Universal has the theme park rights there. However, there are Disney rides planned for Disneyland in California and their theme parks in other countries.
There are no plans for a Marvel Theme Park.
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I'm more interested in the final gross than the OW. TDKR numbers would be inexcusably crap as far as I'm concerned, but its legs may surprise us yet.
Yeah, I am interested in the final gross as well. There is room for this to grow decent legs, but that doesn't mean that it will. Next weekend will be an interesting weekend to watch.
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This franchise fatigue idea just doesn't hold up when you analyze the facts. However, people want Marvel to fail so badly that they will just invent anything so they can argue that Marvel is failing.
Lets look at the domestic adjusted grosses since Disney purchased Marvel at the end of 2009:
Iron Man 2 (2010) - $319.1M
Thor (2011)- 182.4M (it looks like superhero fatigue from IM2 to Thor)
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)- $180.6M (uh oh, even more fatigue; superheroes are over)
The Avengers (2012)- $623.3M (whoa, surprise come back for superhero films)
Iron Man 3 (2013)- $396.3M (uh oh, fatigue is setting in again)
Thor: The Dark World (2011)- $200.8M (whoa, huge drop from IM3)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)- $253.2M (improvement from Thor: TDW)
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)- $334.3M (big increase from CA:TWS)
The Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)- 2nd Largest OW ever
Age of Ultron is going to be the 2nd highest grossing domestic movie on this list. It is going to gross more than GOTG. There clearly isn't any superhero fatigue. The novelty factor is over with, but the Marvel superhero movies are not showing any level of fatigue.
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I went to a drive-in theater twice when I visited Buffalo, NY. It's on Transit Road.
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I am one only here not wanting to watch the fight.
I don't care about the fight either way. I could have gone to watch it at a friend's, but I chose not to. I am more interested in where AOU's OW number ends up.
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If this ends up hitting $200M, then the turning point of the weekend will be when Shawn came here to explain his prediction of $200M-210M.
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Aside from the discrepancies in last night's numbers, I still have to look at the history of Marvel movies holding better than expected over the course of the weekend because of their insane family appeal. Not just Avengers, but Iron Man 3, Spider-Man 3, etc. all had strong Saturdays and/or Sundays. I'd be slightly surprised if it fell below $200m for the weekend, and I still think the record's definitely in play.
That being said... nothing wrong with lowering expectations!
Edit: For whatever it's worth, Disney is also still projecting $200-210 million. They're generally pretty accurate...
I didn't realize that you were the one who was writing the weekend updates for BoxOffice.com . They don't list an author. I think that's great. Also, I am glad that you explained why you are still predicting around a $200M OW.
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Cool story bro, rth I should never question too right?
Is that all you have? You get owned on the points that you brought up and rather than showing some maturity (which you claim to like to see), you go back to your Rth hatred? Come on man, you're better than that.
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And it was always expected to by literally every analyst & poster on here, the fact you have to bring that up shows how right I am lol
I can FEEL your anger Disney, the tears taste so so good.
You brought it up. You are the one that called TA and IM3 outliers. You are the one that said this movie is proof that franchise fatigue is setting in. I am responding to your ridiculous claims by saying this movie will gross more than IM3. This in no way shows franchise fatigue, even by using your own arbitrary standards.
Responding to your points does not mean I brought them up. You did. Take some responsibility for your own words.
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It's technically fatigue as crazy as that sounds, or TA1, IM3 were outliers. FF7 won't even lose to TA2 by that much globally.
This is going to have a higher domestic adjusted gross than IM3. Do you just make this stuff up as you go along?
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It's pretty hilarious honestly, franchise fatigue domestically is already starting to set in. But sure guys Marvel & these amazing characters will be making this much FOREVER according to guys like Walt Disney
You do realize this film is still going to gross over $450M at the domestic box office, right? You're acting like this isn't going to be one of the highest grossing films of all-time. But I see you're not really someone that relies on facts.
AVENGERS Official Wknd Estimates: 191M - Disney
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Tomorrowland they are really having trouble with. I am not sure if that's because it's a truly unique movie or not. The marketing for Prince of Persia, Mars Needs Moms, and John Carter was done with MT Carney as head of marketing, but she was fired from the company, so her bad marketing is gone. The marketing for The Lone Ranger seemed fine.