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This looks pretty good. Will definitely watch this in theaters.
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No idea, English is also my 2nd language. \
Edit: I see what you mean. It looks like Fox wanted this at first when they started saying that F4 would be in the same universe as X-Men, but they ended up changing their minds. I'd say synergy was the proper term.
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Your guess is as good as mine, but Fox probably wanted to use F4 marketing to push the Rogue Cut even if F4 bombed big time.
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DOFP was boosted by the release of the Rogue Cut by the way.
Some sequels manage to give a 10-20M$ boost to the previous movies during the course of the theatrical releases and the subsequent HV release. Some sequels only manage a sub 1M$ boost. Ice Age movies receive poor boosts for example, while Despicable Me movies are notorious for being steady sellers and receiving interesting boost by sequels.
I'm also interested to see what will happen to Avatar and Frozen, but that's far down the road. Also curious to see if the Harry Potter spinoff will generate sales of previous HP movies.
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Future sequels (up to 2017) that could boost movies to reach certain milestones (100M$+)
Toy Story 3 : 250M$ combined sales, 200M$ DVD sales
Despicable Me : 300M$ combined sales, 200M$ DVD sales, 100M$ Blu Ray sales
Despicable Me 2 : 250M$ combined sales
The Dark Knight : 300M$ DVD sales
The Dark Knight rises : 100M$ Blu Ray sales
X-Men : The Last Stand : 150M$ combined sales, 150M$ DVD sales
The Hunger Games : 150M$ DVD sales
Hotel Transylvania : 100M$ combined sales
Skyfall : 100M$ combined sales
Star Trek : 200M$ combined sales, 100M$ Blu Ray sales
Star Trek into Darkness : 100M$ combined sales
Pirates of the Carribean : On strager Tides : 100M$ combined sales
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I understand BK's point. This doesn't bothers me too much, but it adds up to uncertainty of these charts.
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Thenumbers constantly revises down years and years after the movies are released. It's a terrible website but it is all we have.
I still don't know how it is possible that movie charts in 2008 can still be up in the air.
It's the best estimates we have. Wish we could have a more accurate source.
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This is the worst time for HV sales. No more blockbusters boosting old titles until the Thanksgiving movies get released and the summer blockbusters are not getting released on HV until mid September.
Titles to look forward to (300M+ grossers) :
Fast & Furious 7 : the old titles were never great on HV, but this one was bigger than the previous movies. Prediction : At least 115M$ in combined sales in its first year
Avengers 2 : This will obivously do less than the first one (225M$), but this should do better than IM3 and GoTG. Prediction : 135M$ in combined sales in its first year
Jurassic World : The breakout movie of the year. This one is hard to predict. Its legs shows good word of mouth and that should translate to good HV sales. Prediction : Should be on par with the first Avengers, so 200M$ in its first year
Inside Out: Pixar movies are like clockwork on HV with a 100M$ floor everytime. This one scored better than the last entries apart from 2010's Toy Story 3. Prediction : 185M$ in its first year
Minions : The DM franchise has shown impressive numbers on HV (DM1 265M$, DM2 235M$) . Considering that Minions grossed about the same as DM2 and that sequels HV sales are usually lower because of fatigue and boxed sets, I predict sales of 175M$ in its first year.
Special prediction : Pitch Perfect 2 is gonna reach 100M$ in combined sales in its first year.
Keep in mind that most titles generate about 85% of their sales in their first year of release. Exceptions are movies with multiple sequels (Twilight, Harry Potter, Fast & Furious, X-Men) or shared universe (MCU) and also movies where sequels are far more popular/bigger than the original (Batman begins, Twilight, Despicable Me). Some timeless/classic movies also show good legs on HV (classic Disney, The Sandlot, The Notebook...)
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That would be a record for the most 300 M films in a single year. Can't see it happening.
We're at 5 already with at least 2 more 300M movies. Record will be broken, I would have made the same call on Dec. 30th also. What an unexpected year we had in movies so far.
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That would be a record for the most 300 M films in a single year. Can't see it happening.
We're at 5 already with at least 2 more 300M movies. Record will be broken, I would have made the same call on Dec. 30th also. What an unexpected year we had in movies so far.
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Since when are we discussing "scripted male gymnasts acting" in the week-end thread?
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I didn't notice that GotG was revised downwards, I guess it explains why I was so sure it would hit 100M this year. As for Baumer being wrong, the original question came from me, so I was "wrong".
I was also surprised by the low bump the MCU titles got when AoU came out. Avengers, GotG and Thor:TDW all got small boosts in May but none of them broke top 20 on the combined chart. Was suprised that CA:TWS and IM3 didn't get any significant boosts also. When The Avengers came out, all phase 1 films appeared in the top 30 and some of them made it to the top 10 for several weeks. I was not expecting the same boost but at least a little bigger than what we saw.
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Guardians of the Galaxy should become only the 5th movie to reach 100m$ in Blu Ray sales in the coming months.
I still can't believe the pace that Frozen is going. Chances that it reaches 400M$ in combined revenues in 2015..will it reach it before Avatar?
I can't wait to see the boost the MCU movies will get when AoU gets released. I'm mainly interested in Avengers, IM 1 & 2 and GotG at this point though.
Anyone thinks Minions as a shot at joining DM 1& 2 in the 200M$ combined revenue club?
Will we see another Hunger Games reach 200M$ in combined revenue? Will MJ1 even reach 100M$ combined revenue in 2015?
Will all Hobbit movies reach 100M$ in combined revenues in 2015? or will they they have to crawl there in the coming years?
What will be the first movie to reach 200M$ in Blu Ray revenues? Avatar? Frozen? AoU? Star Wars VII? Any other contender?
Knowing animation movies do very well on home video, what's gonna be the next animated movie to reach 200M$ combined (with Frozen being the last)? Minions? Big Hero 6? Inside Out? Peanuts movie? DM3?
Just wanted to update on that seeing as many of these questions can be answered today.
Guardians of the Galaxy should become only the 5th movie to reach 100m$ in Blu Ray sales in the coming months. While it had a nice start, it dropped quickly and didn't receive a significant boost from AoU. Not gonna happen.
I still can't believe the pace that Frozen is going. Chances that it reaches 400M$ in combined revenues in 2015..will it reach it before Avatar? Still is a possibility - Frozen sits at 355M and still hopping in and out of top 30 while Avatar is at 390M crawling its way to 400M.
Anyone thinks Minions as a shot at joining DM 1& 2 in the 200M$ combined revenue club? At this point, if it doesn't reach it with its first run, it will most likely reach it when DM3 is released.
Will we see another Hunger Games reach 200M$ in combined revenue? Will MJ1 even reach 100M$ combined revenue in 2015? Unlikely on both count.
Will all Hobbit movies reach 100M$ in combined revenues in 2015? or will they they have to crawl there in the coming years? DoS barely reached 100M and TBoFA is way too far to reach it.
What will be the first movie to reach 200M$ in Blu Ray revenues? Avatar? Frozen? AoU? Star Wars VII? Any other contender? I guess we can replace AoU with Jurassic World on this list. Can't wait to see the numbers it pulls. The answer to this question won't be answered until 2016 it seems.
Knowing animation movies do very well on home video, what's gonna be the next animated movie to reach 200M$ combined (with Frozen being the last)? Minions? Big Hero 6? Inside Out? Peanuts movie? DM3? I guess Inside Out has a better chance to reach 200M than Minions (bigger BO, not a sequel, most likely will be released ealier too)
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My big fat greek wedding was something very incredible. You have to remember that this was at the time where a frontloaded movie was still getting a 3.0 multiplier... MBFGW never recorded a week-end over 20M and it broke 200M in total over 6 months.
Shrek 2 was an oddity...everyone was thinking that it would break out real big and it went DOA on its Wednesday opening...People were in "What went wrong" mode and trying to figure out what the F happened for it to open that low until we saw its Friday number and it went on to record the 2nd biggest OW ever at the time (with some demands burned off).
Watching Avatar's progress was nice. Everyone kept saying : this is the Week-end it's gonna drop normally and it would drop 20-25% and we would all say the same thing for the next week-end...Even after the 2nd week-end I was thinking it would end up between TDK and Titanic...never thought it would reach 750M.
Not a big fan of Frozen, but from a numbers point of view, the box office run and DVD/Blu Ray run was incredible.
I also think any sequels that opens over the entire run of the original movie is something impressive (Austin Powers, Terminator, Pitch Perfect...etc...)
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Cant be rated R my friend or everyone wont be able to see the evolution of James masterpiece. Im sure it will push the PG-13 evenlope though
You obviously missed the joke, but still James Cameron is the greatest pioneer. In his submarine, he will literally raise the bar.
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Yeah, their chart is bugged. It's gonna be a coupe weeks of boring charts until MJ1, Big Hero 6 and Hobbit 3 gets released.
And then I'm looking forward the big summer blockbusters to have an effect on old titles - FF7, Avengers 2, Pitch Perfect 2, Ted 2 and Minions.
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What??? What exactly is 4DD if that even exists??
Only James Cameron can create 4DD. Because he is James Cameron, the greatest pioneer.
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Piranha? Intense? the only thing intense in that movie was the worry of me walking out the cinema with a Boner
I made sure I did not "walk out with a boner". Watched the credits a while longer.
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I hope James Cameron will raise the bar once again and give us 4DD. Avatar was great in 3D, Piranah was intense in 3DD. Hoping for a 4DD update with this movie. R rated obviously pretty please.
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Completely ridiculous post. Instead of appreciating his contribution you make fun of him for his grammatical error in a language that is not his mother tongue.
Very classy.
It was indeed ridiculous, mission accomplished. My intention was to make fun of the guy who called him out on his error, mission unaccomplished. Like a certain green female in a certain space opera movie said : who put the stick up your ***?
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I love this franchise! I hope Untitled Illumination Project 2 is as good as Untitled Illumination Project 1! Although sequels usually have a tough time to live up to the originals, I'm sure this one will be loads better. Nice to see Matthew McConaughey returning for the sequel. Even though I feel like he did a somewhat unremarkable performance in the original (let's not kid ourselves...who remembers McConaughey in the first movie? certainly not me...) I'm glad the studio is giving him a chance to shine once again in the sequel.
Garth Jennings is also a very talented director, but he especially excels at writing with Untitled Illumination Project 1 being a masterpiece right down to the unusual title of the movie.
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Why thenumbers is not to be trusted:
Numerous films totals on the "All Time Blu-Ray" chart have dropped by a couple thousand/tens of thousands.
I cannot post my original chart in proper formatting in post #169 as the old chart is not available, but on their website, looking at the new chart and comparing, I don't see why films that have been out forever; Harry Potter Deathly Hallows 2 for example should have any change, especially downward.
What happened? Thousands of people returned copies?
This constant shifting of numbers is why thenumbers will never truly be trusted.
While that's true, The-Numbers take incomplete data and extrapolate to the entire market, much like economists do when they analyze market trends. Never accurate, but still pointing in the right direction. You trust box office results because all sites report the same numbers.....provided by the studios. Old movies that are still showing in select theaters are seldom being updated. I.E. When a movie theater run a SW marathon, you won't see the studios update their numbers right away and some simply don't bother updating them.
You play with the best data available and at the moment, The-Numbers provide the "best" data we have for home video.
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I have learned sell-sold-sold in school. Normally I would ignore grammar errors, but you people constantly change irregular verbs, that I wonder: have they been put to rest in internet fora or has English changed so much since I left school?
No he wrote selled....but he meant salad. Frozen is the most salad Blu Ray ever. Check your freezer, I`m sure there is some Frozen selled there.
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Avatar is 8M$ away from 400M$ combined.
Frozen is 62M$ away from the same milestone, but selling much more at the moment.
Which one will get there first?
Frozen is only a couple weeks away from passing Avatar in units and $ for Blu Ray sales. Will it be the first to reach 200M$?
How HV sales used to turn big box office hits into massive box office GIANTS
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While Frozen is very much on another level, I wouldn't dismiss Despicable Me 2. While DM2 stands at about 65% of what Frozen achieved, it still has generated double the sales of the 3rd and 4th movie (GotG and HG: CF) since it was released...
This is bound to change as the 2015 movies will probably score better on HV compared to the 2014 movies.