Eric the Marxist

Quorum Updates Killer's Game T-25: 20.98% Awareness, 44.69% Interest Speak No Evil T-25: 29.51% Awareness, 50.37% Interest White Bird T-46: 15.62% Awareness, 37.78% Interest Blink Twice T-4: 34.38% Awareness, 46.73% Interest Final Awareness: 41% chance of 10M Low Awareness: 29% chance of 10M Final Interest: 48% chance of 10M Low Interest: 34% chance of 10M The Crow T-4: 44.22% Awareness, 49.77% Interest Final Awareness: 78% chance of 10M Low Awareness: 60% chance of 10M Final Interest: 48% chance of 10M Low Interest: 34% chance of 10M The Forge T-4: 20.08% Awareness, 40.08% Interest Final Awareness: 19% chance of 10M Low Awareness: 14% chance of 10M Final Interest: 48% chance of 10M Low Interest: 34% chance of 10M 1992 T-11: 21.48% Awareness, 44.31% Interest Final Awareness: 19% chance of 10M Low Awareness: 14% chance of 10M Final Interest: 48% chance of 10M Low Interest: 34% chance of 10M Afraid T-11: 23.01% Awareness, 47.28% Interest Final Awareness: 19% chance of 10M Horror Awareness: 33% chance of 10M Final Interest: 48% chance of 10M Horror Interest: 43% chance of 10M Never Let Go T-32: 25.18% Awareness, 47.96% Interest T-30 Awareness: 54% chance of 10M Horror Awareness: 63% chance of 10M T-30 Interest: 59% chance of 10M Horror Interest: 68% chance of 10M Flight Risk T-60: 28% Awareness, 48.36% Interest T-60 Awareness: 60% chance of 10M Low Awareness: 38% chance of 10M T-60 Interest: 61% chance of 10M Low Interest: 32% chance of 10M

Really liked this, but the Ian Holm stuff is genuinely some of the most infuriating stuff ever. Does anybody actually, unironically like this whole "deepfake a dead actor to life" thing movies are now doing? Or even just this whole "deepfake somebody to look younger" in general, like they're doing with Mark Hamill? Like from what I can gather, everybody hates it, it costs a fortune to do...why can't you just do a recast? And in this case, you didn't even need Ian Holm since he's just an android and not the character from the first movie. It's so stupid.

Moderation Okay, after this post comes up, I'm re-opening the thread. Now I got a couple things to say before I open stuff up. Some points apply to everybody, others for specific people. But either way, I hope everybody takes what I say to heart, or else more warning points will come towards certain users' way. And if anybody has an issue with the post I am making, please talk to me privately. We are done with this discussion publicly. 1. It is very valid to bring up the issues many POC projects do in fact face when it comes to box office potential, harassment campaigns, etc. However, that doesn't mean people can't still be negative on a film's prospects nor does that automatically mean they are above criticism. @Spidey Freak there was no need to make some sort of accusations of racism because people think Cap 4 might not do well at the box office. 2. This applies to those who love to mock, denigrate, and attack Zatt. I understand that Zatt and his posts are not everybody's cup of tea. And yes, he deserves to be held accountable for his actions. Believe me. But fighting fire with fire and insulting him back, making posts that directly mock him, and simply trying to reason with somebody who very clearly does not have any interest in being reasoned with does not help this situation at all. I suggest next time, to everybody, that the next time Zatt or any user you dislike is damaging or derailing the forum, please just hit the Report button. Or better yet, @ me or another mod specifically when they start to misbehave. It's certainly better than dunking on somebody unfairly. 3. Now, here's my big spiel. @ZattMurdock I understand it can be frustrating to see people be negative and pessimistic on movies you love and are looking forward to. I think it's something we all can relate to. And I understand that maybe some people should reconfigure their expectations on certain Marvel productions. However, you have gone way too far these past couple weeks. You have derailed threads many a time whenever people are even the slightest bit critical of Marvel and superhero movies. You repeat ad nauseum that people are out to get Marvel and set these unfair expectations against them, but then act holier than thou against many other franchises and figures who do not like Marvel. You claim that it's okay for certain Marvel projects to not hit a billion, but then constantly fight other people who say that a Marvel movie may potentially not hit certain thresholds or numbers. And just this past weekend, you accused not one, but two different users of being racist, in a very patronizing and condescending tone. It's pretty egregious too, as Wattage's posts in particular indicate that they are also Black. And yet here you are saying they don't understand the importance of a Black Captain America. How ironic indeed. People are very frustrated with your posts, and for good reason. People don't like it when a user refuses to accept a different opinion. People don't like it when you start fights for no reason. Are people being negative on Marvel movies really such an injustice? Is the $32 billion juggernaut franchise that has made more money than anybody here will ever make in their lifetimes really something you have to posit as some scrappy underdog? Do you have to create strawmans or go after users because they "don't get" a franchise or character's popularity? No. So why do it? And in fact, you have constantly gone on, over and over and over and over again, about how much you hate BOT. How much you think this community doesn't understand Marvel and its box office. How this place is basically just another 4chan. How you have expressed many a time that you are leaving this place forever because of the community. So, and this is a rhetorical question...why are you here? If you hate what this place has become and don't like most of the users, why hang out in a place you hate? We're not the only place on the Internet where you can talk about Marvel, so why stick around in an area that you don't care for? It's like a vegetarian walking into a steakhouse. What's the goal here? I'm not saying you deserve to leave or that you don't bring value to this place. But I'm just asking you to please, please, please try to be mindful of what you post here. Try to put certain users on your ignore list. Don't start some whole "can you believe people are being so mean about Marvel when they are keeping theaters alive" rhetoric. And sometimes, if you see a post you disagree with, just...ignore it. I can assure you that the universe is not going to explode into a million pieces because you didn't respond to a user who said Thunderbolts might not be a hit. And if you think people are totally 100% wrong? Well...let people be wrong. I'm not expecting you to be perfect, but I just want you to try. It's okay for people to be negative on Marvel, and it's okay to just...let it be. As I said before, we are done with this whole conversation and fighting. If anybody wants to talk with me about the post I made, please talk to me privately. If you don't, you will see a threadban. Thank you. That is all.

Moderation Things are clearly getting heated, so I'm just going to lock things up before it gets any worse. Gonna also look over who needs warning points, who needs a talking to, and so on.

I mean I don't think Alien Romulus ever had a chance of reaching 200M domestically, let alone 270M+

Oh...never mind. 😕

What? I thought everybody like Giovanni Ribisi!

69% male for Covenant, so pretty close to what Romulus has.

From Deadline:

https://deadline.com/2024/08/box-office-alien-romulus-1236042166/

Not seeing Romulus until later today. Also haven't seen any Terminator movie past 2. So... 1. Prey 2. Alien 3 3. Predators I'm going to assume Romulus will join the group here, because Predators is only just okay in my book.

🫡

Will say that I was always skeptical over the 50M/60M projections people were making for Romulus. Alien has always been a niche, fan-driven property, and there was little I saw in the marketing that helped make it crossover to non-fans. But I mean, 40M+ is still a great result for a franchise that just hit its lowest financial point a few years ago and peaked back in the 80s. Plus the soft reboot and clean slate approach will probably help a potential sequel and the franchise in general going forward. I don't think Disney needs to fret here.

Moderation @ZattMurdock @Cmasterclay Enough to the both of you. End this now, or threadbans will come your way.

You're a modern classic.

I don’t think anybody is saying they wish the movie was worse? Just saying why the movie didn’t do well financially and the reasons for it. And I think we are allowed to give our reasons without some sort of “gee that movie sure was great” comment

I was in the same boat, but to be fair horror does go a long way in getting nonwhite appeal. Like Halloween Ends had more Latino (36%) than Caucasian (33%). Although Kills had more Caucasian (38%) than Latino (33%). The recent Exorcist movie also had more Latino (41%) than Caucasian (30%). Just wanted to throw that out there.

To be fair, the first four movies had Sigourney Weaver, who is just as, if not more synonymous with Alien than the xenomorphs. And even with Prometheus, Michael Fassbender was all over the advertising, and he was fresh off both Inglorious Basterds and X-Men at the time. I think it was fair to say a cast full of no-name actors for a franchise that always had at least one recurring and popular actor could have been trouble. Especially since said franchise hasn't had a big crowdpleaser success since the Reagan administration. But I guess Clay and I were wrong.

She actually didn't intend to make that final shot. She just got it in because she's that fucking awesome.

My shift starts at 3:30 in the morning. I can’t go to sleep.