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5 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:
It's summer. There used to be summers where there was a blockbuster opening to 50m every single weekend. Hell, this March proved that movies can survive against each other with multiple big openings. Twisters is doing shit overseas numbers and had weak presales from day one - both those metrics have nothing to do with Deadpool.
I mean I guess, but I don't think it's fair to say competition doesn't matter. It definitely impacted the examples I listed, and, despite the rating, Twisters and Deadpool are still going for a similar action movie target audience.
Though hey! You could be right that it is all lack of interest, since this is directly advertising to the people who don't go to the movies anymore.
I predicted Indy to be a Top Gun-style breakout, and even thought Twisters could get the TGM audience at a smaller scale, and I've been let down twice. Lesson learned for next summer! Sorry Karate Kid, but I'm going to be bearish on you.
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Will say in hindsight that Twisters probably should have dropped August 2 if it wanted to break out bigly like a lot of us hoped it would. This is basically a redux of Dungeons and Dragons and Dead Reckoning where it had lousy luck opening against a colossal giant. But at least I can understand D&D and Mario having potentially different audiences, or Paramount not expecting Barbenheimer to be what it was. Universal had to have known Deadpool would at least open to the level of Guardians 3 in a worst-case scenario.
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9 minutes ago, narniadis said:
I wonder what some of y'all would have been saying in the 50s when Disney and Warners were churning out multiple shorts of gags with all their cartoons. They are considered classics now, but such is the essence of the Minions appeal - it's the exact same thing in longer form. 🤷♂️
I mean I grew up watching those cartoons and I still find them funnier than almost anything with the Minions, so…yeah. Believe me, I get the appeal. But if I don’t find their stuff funny, I’m not gonna lie and say I like them.
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11 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:
Need a diagnostic from folks who know OS box office better than me.
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59 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:
Just for funsies, here’s a look at all the re-releases from 2022 onwards and how their OWs have all stacked up so far. I’m ignoring Fathom Events or the Spider-Man re-releases, since those are one/two-day only events. If I missed any, and I’m sure I did, please let me know.
1. Avatar: 10.53M
2. The Phantom Menace: 8.72M
3. Titanic: 6.71M
4. Spider-Man: No Way Home: 5.4M
5. Return of the Jedi: 5.1M
6. The Nightmare Before Christmas: 4.29M
7. Jaws: 2.64M
8. Jurassic Park: 1.7M
9. Hocus Pocus: 1.61M
10. Alien: 1.55M
11. Shrek 2: 1.45M
12. The Lion King: 1.08M
13. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial: 1.07M
14. The Mummy: 1.03M
15. The Godfather: 0.96M
16. Turning Red: 0.58M
17. Luca: 0.56M
18. Oldboy: 0.49M
19. Soul: 0.43M
20. Amelie: 0.21M
21. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon: 0.17M
Stop Making Sense has very wonky box office with its re-release (says it opened at 856K, but also somehow made 1.48M in total that weekend? It’s weird), so I’m excluding that.
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58 minutes ago, wildphantom said:
I’m kind of amazed at that DM4 hold as the movie really isn’t all that. Doesn’t seem to matter much to this franchise. Storming to $300 million domestic.
None of the Despicable Me movies are all that, and they still make billions. You can have a bunch of Minions play Go Fish for 90 minutes and the masses will still turn up to it like robots.
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Not the Taylor Swift thread.
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Still insane this is outopening all but one A24 movie. Hoping this will lead to Neon getting a better foothold in the indie scene. We can't just have A24/Searchlight doing all this.
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This seems destined to do about 400-600M worldwide, sell a lot of dolls, have people argue over whether it's actually a hit or not, and be forgotten about 9 months later. Either way, not gonna be fun for me!
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Insomnia - Permanently banned for being an alt account of JB33
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10 minutes ago, wildphantom said:
The only Kai I know is a karate dojo
YOU’RE THE BEST
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@Insomnia Instead of detailing threads with this kind of inflammatory rhetoric, then saying “we don’t need to derail this thread anymore”, how about you just…don’t derail the thread in the first place? You don’t have to post contemt that you know will start pointless, nonsensical drama. So don’t.
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1 hour ago, cannastop said:
ah well that answers that question. Just marginally better than the Pixar re-issues.
it’s actually fairly solid and standard with modern re-releases. It’s on par with Shrek 2, and better than The Mummy. These things just don’t do much more than 1-2M really, barring the occasional Avatar or Phantom Menace rerelease.
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Honestly, Fly Me is in a weird spot where the timeline and concept really only appeals to the olds like my mom who grew up in the 60s, which puts it at a disadvantage considering the olds don’t go to movies anymore. Plus the romcom stuff was basically ignored in favor of the faked moon landing story, which just seemed very silly and out of left field. Plus kind of tone-deaf, considering how harmful these conspiracies are in today’s climate. And it doesn’t seem they’re going for some Adam McKay-style “look at these idiots” angle. Add on the issue of not being an NTC, and middlig reviews, and there was really nothing to grab onto or get excited about.
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2 minutes ago, Fanboy said:
For what it’s worth my legs shall open for $20M too.
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1 hour ago, KJsooner said:
Can we get do the same with your posts? You’ve posted relentlessly stupid shit ever since you started an account. Have you ever posted anything that was remotely correct?
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One more disrespectful post like this and you will leave me with no choice but to give you a thread ban. Don’t do this again.
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Rest of the top 5 of pics in regular release are as follows:
1.) Despicable Me 4 (Uni) 4,428 theaters Thu $9.1M (-11% from Wednesday), Wk $118.8M, Total $166.4M/Wk 1
2.) Inside Out 2 (Dis) 3,760 theaters Thu $3.9M (-10%) Wk $48M, Total $551.8M/Wk 4
3.) A Quiet Place: Day One (Par) 3,688 theaters, Thu $2.1M (-12%) Wk $31M, Total $104.4M/Wk 2
4.) Bad Boys: Ride or Die (Sony) 2,644 theaters, Thu $679K (-8%) Wk $9.6M, Total $180.4M/Wk 5
5.) MaXXXine (A24) 2,450 theaters, Thu $521K (-22%), Wk $9.3M/Wk 1
So we're probably getting...
1. DM4: 42.7M
2. Longlegs: 21M
3. Inside Out 2: 19.3M
4. A Quiet Place: 11M
5. Fly Me: 8M
6. Bad Boys: 4.5M
7. Maxxxine: 2.5M
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2 minutes ago, harrisonisdead said:
Quorum does weekend estimates, too?
Yes, but that's typically only something you get if you're a subscriber. @whatsupdoc shared some projections of theirs a few months ago here on teh forum.
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Rest of the top 5 of pics in regular release are as follows:
1.) Despicable Me 4 (Uni) 4,428 theaters Thu $9.1M (-11% from Wednesday), Wk $118.8M, Total $166.4M/Wk 1
2.) Inside Out 2 (Dis) 3,760 theaters Thu $3.9M (-10%) Wk $48M, Total $551.8M/Wk 4
3.) A Quiet Place: Day One (Par) 3,688 theaters, Thu $2.1M (-12%) Wk $31M, Total $104.4M/Wk 2
4.) Bad Boys: Ride or Die (Sony) 2,644 theaters, Thu $679K (-8%) Wk $9.6M, Total $180.4M/Wk 5
5.) MaXXXine (A24) 2,450 theaters, Thu $521K (-22%), Wk $9.3M/Wk 1
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UPDATE, AFTER EXCLUSIVE: Neon‘s Longlegs hit $3M last night according to NEON. As we mentioned this is a record for the specialty distributor. Quorum tracking this AM is predicting that the Oz Perkins horror film could do $14M-$17M to the Sony distributed Apple movie, Fly Me to the Moon, which is eyeing $12M-$15M. Quorum is seeing “an engaged and growing core” for Longlegs.
That said, last night’s audience registered a 68% on Rotten Tomatoes and 3 stars on Comscore/Screen Engine’s PostTrak with critical score settling at 90% certified fresh which indicates a divide between film reviews and audiences. We’ll see how that plays out.
Fly Me to the Moon preview figures coming…however, those 51% males/49% females who showed up last night enjoyed it at 4 1/2 stars and 88% positive on PostTrak. Females gave it a 92% grade. Reviews are at 65% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Quorum Updates
The Crow T-43: 33.63% Awareness, 45.8% Interest
Never Let Go T-78: 18.68% Awareness, 41.91% Interest
Joker: Folie a Deux T-85: 51.62% Awareness, 60.68% Interest
White Bird: A Wonder Story T-85: 11.95% Awareness, 38.85% Interest
Wicked T-134: 43.79% Awareness, 48.03% Interest
Levon's Trade T-190: 9.92% Awareness, 35.92% Interest
Fly Me to the Moon T-1: 44.18% Awareness, 44.17% Interest
Final Awareness: 78% chance of 10M, 48% chance of 20M
Medium Awareness: 83% chance of 10M, 50% chance of 20M
Final Interest: 48% chance of 10M, 17% chance of 20M
Medium Interest: 59% chance of 10M, 23% chance of 20M
Longlegs T-1: 26.82% Awareness, 46.68% Interest
Final Awareness: 20% chance of 10M
Horror Awareness: 25% chance of 10M
Final Interest: 48% chance of 10M
Horror Interest: 43% chance of 10M
Twisters T-8: 56.43% Awareness, 56.15% Interest
Final Awareness: 73% chance of 30M, 35% chance of 40M, 23% chance of 50M, 15% chance of 60M, 11% chance of 90M, 8% chance of 100M
Tentpole Awareness: 100% chance of 30M, 75% chance of 40M, 25% chance of 50M
Final Interest: 48% chance of 10M, 17% chance of 20M
Tentpole Interest: 59% chance of 10M, 23% chance of 20M
Speak No Evil T-64: 21.9% Awareness, 44.14% Interest
T-60 Awareness: 60% chance of 10M, 31% chance of 20M
Horror Awareness: 56% chance of 10M, 31% chance of 20M
T-60 Interest: 60% chance of 10M, 34% chance of 20M
Horror Interest: 65% chance of 10M, 31% chance of 20M
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7/12 weekend thread: Longlegs $22.4m, To the Moon $9.4m
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