Eric Prime

A Color of Money legacyquel would actually be 👌

Both movies are still very different. Lord of the Rings is still a traditional adventure story with a solid "get to the end" goal that's easy to follow and characters that are pretty easy to empathize with. Dune is a lot more cerebral, a lot more contemplative, and a lot more based around philosophy and religion that isn't as easy a sell with the normies. Even the big action sequences in Dune don't really have the same kind of crowdpleasing aspects Lord of the Rings does. Which isn't a bad thing, but the tone between Rings and Dune are very night and day.

This whole "let's give kids absolutely nothing, then crowd everything in the summer" strategy Hollywood is doing post-COVID is so unbelievably stupid. Like my theater was playing Trolls 3 up until this weekend, because there was nothing for families that already saw Wonka and Migration to go to. It's so stupid.

It was nominated for a Kids Choice Award though 🤔 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Kids'_Choice_Awards

What I would give to have Timothee as Spider-Man and I could just imagine myself in his arms, swinging me through the city as his Mary Jane. 😭

Quorum Updates Immaculate T-22: 22.98% The Crow T-99: 26.56% The Bikeriders T-113: 16.4% Borderlands T-162: 25.97% Smile 2 T-232: 22.02% Dune: Part Two T-1: 60.22% Awareness Final Awareness: 100% chance of 20M, 90% chance of 30M, 85% chance of 40M, 75% chance of 50M, 65% chance of 60M, 50% chance of 70M, 35% chance of 100M Tentpole Awareness: 100% chance of 30M, 86% chance of 60M, 43% chance of 70M, 29% chance of 100M Cabrini T-8: 19.56% Awareness Final Awareness: 0% chance of 10M Low Awareness: 0% chance of 10M Imaginary T-8: 38.33% Awareness Final Awareness: 38% chance of 10M, 6% chance of 20M Horror Awareness: 45% chance of 10M, 9% chance of 20M Kung Fu Panda 4 T-8: 66.96% Awareness Final Awareness: 100% chance of 20M, 90% chance of 30M, 85% chance of 40M, 75% chance of 50M, 65% chance of 60M, 50% chance of 70M, 35% chance of 100M Animation/Family Awareness: 100% chance of 50M, 75% chance of 70M, 50% chance of 100M The Fall Guy T-64: 33.72% Awareness T-60 Awareness: 96% chance of 10M, 74% chance of 20M, 52% chance of 30M, 17% chance of 40M Medium Awareness: 89% chance of 10M, 67% chance of 20M, 55% chance of 30M, 11% chance of 40M

I'm using this as a PSA to tell y'all to watch Shogun on Hulu/Disney+. I saw the pilot earlier today. It's awesome!

TIMOTHEE SUPREMACY

Lucky you. I had some jackass whisper and laugh with his buddy through the whole thing. Then, when the movie ends, he turns to me and a bunch of other strangers, and loudly shouts, "So what did you all think, gang?" Like...fuck off bro. I was trying to enjoy the cut to credits and you ruined it. I hate being around people, swear to God.

I am shooketh right now. Give Timothee and Zendaya all the Oscars. Holy smokes. Holy smokes.

Just a few more minutes. Timothee my beloved, I’m ready for you.

Yep. Just like that, the honorable mentions are done, as we finally approach the top 20. I will get the next three up later today, after I come back from Dune. But for now, you lucky chaps now know about what films barely missed the cut and speculate on what our final 20 can be. Remember some of the hints I dropped earlier in the first post. Person who gets it all right wins my love and affection as their prize.

#110 - Unbreakable (454 points, 10 lists) #109 - Con Air (468 points, 11 lists) #108 - The Great Mouse Detective (470 points, 13 lists) #107 - Ford v Ferrari (475 points, 10 lists) #106 - Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (480 points, 12 lists) #105 - The Royal Tenenbaums (497 points, 8 lists) #104 - Peter Pan (504 points, 12 lists) #103 - Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (505 points, 14 lists) #102 - Starship Troopers (508 points, 10 lists) #101 - The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe (511 points, 12 lists)

Moderation Not the Fall Guy thread.

Assuming we don't get a stinky Rotten Tomatoes score for this, feel like the most likely scenario is that it opens around 35M, everybody freaks out and expects doom and gloom, but then it legs out to gross on par with Kung Fu Panda 3's 143.5M on the basis of there being literally nothing for families to watch, just like Elemental, and we all shrug this off as a fine enough tally.

Moderation We're also not doing this insipid "OMG DUNE IS THIS EPIC FAILURE NOW" hyperbole. We were all championing a 70M opening, even a 65M opening as good results. But now you guys are having tantrums and meltdowns over it grossing those? It's really not funny and unproductive. Please act a little more relaxed and reserved.

Moderation Not the "do people like Dune" thread. Please move this off-topic discussion on whether Dune is actually popular or not to the actual Dune 2 thread.

#21 Guardians of the Galaxy 1,483 points, 29 lists "I am Groot." Box Office: 273.1M Rotten Tomatoes: 87% Metacritic: 73 Awards: 1 Academy Award nomination, 1 Annie Award and 9 nominations, 1 Critics Choice Award nominee Roger Ebert's Review: N/A Its Legacy: The third-highest grossing movie of 2014 and the highest-grossing Marvel movie of 2014. Brought the obscure comic and turned it into one of the most profitable Marvel franchises ever. Made Chris Pratt a movie star. Introduced not only the Guardians, but also Ronan, The Collector, and Howard the Duck into the MCU. Pushed James Gunn into A-list Hollywood director material. The soundtrack became the first soundtrack album in history consisting entirely of previously released songs to top the Billboard chart. Gave Lloyd Kaufman a paycheck. Commentary: We have now ended our MCU run of entries with this epic comedy space opera. And in many ways, it really is the perfect finale. A perfect showcase of the ingenuity and creativity of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and a glorious period where Marvel could take anything and place them into the pop culture zeitgeist. Prior to 2014, nobody gave a darn about those Guardians of the Galaxy. And people were baffled that this random Z-list team of superheroes was being thrown into the Marvel universe before bigger characters like Doctor Strange. Even the trailers made this seem like an odd beast, with a talking raccoon and giant tree and weird sci-fi nonsense. Nobody was going to take to this. Thankfully, with the combination of Marvel Studios fun and the sharp, self-aware, hilarious comedy of Mr. James Gunn, we got ourselves a rollicking adventure that felt so distinct and off-key in all the best ways from most superhero blockbusters. It was a film that was gleefully self-aware of its silliness, took full advantage of its comedy and characters, and offered an incredible soundtrack that made some classic 80s tunes fresh and hip to a new generation of kids. Oh, and Rocket turned some kids into furries too, because of course they did. It’s a movie that felt bold and idiosyncratic, reminding viewers that Marvel wasn’t just superheroes saving the day. It was also weird and gonzo and oddly heartfelt, with a lot of the movie about an immature man child trying to come to grips with the loss of his mother and trying to find family in the chaotic vastness of outer space. This odd blend of familiar Marvel conventions, silly sci-fi adventure, raunchy humor, and sincere pathos really shouldn’t have worked as well as it did. And yet it did. Sure enough, Guardians of the Galaxy was the big movie of the summer, making these nobody Marvel characters some of the coolest and most iconic heroes in the entire MCU and Marvel Comics universe itself. They are now just as iconic as X-Men or Fantastic Four, and some may say that these guys have usurped those teams in popularity these days. We soon got an impressive trilogy many cite as Marvel’s absolute best roster of movies, a popular video game, and director James Gunn has now become a golden boy in Hollywood, currently spearheading the new roster of DC Comics movies. It’s hard to know what the future holds, but to quote 80s music icon George Michael, I gotta have faith.

#22 Lilo & Stitch 1,483 points, 24 lists "If you want to leave, you can. I'll remember you though. I remember everyone that leaves." Box Office: 273.1M Rotten Tomatoes: 87% Metacritic: 73 Awards: 1 Academy Award nomination, 1 Annie Award and 9 nominations, 1 Critics Choice Award nominee Roger Ebert's Review: "Now here comes a truly inspired animated feature named "Lilo & Stitch." How will it do? It's one of the most charming feature-length cartoons of recent years--funny, sassy, startling, original and with six songs by Elvis. It doesn't get sickeningly sweet at the end, it has as much stuff in it for grown-ups as for kids, and it has a bright offbeat look to it." Its Legacy: One of the highest-grossing Disney movies of the 2000s. Appeared in Kingdom Hearts. Made Chris Sanders and Dean DeBlois icons in the animation industry. Stitch would become a merchandising monster. Earned several direct-to-video sequels, several television shows, and an upcoming live-action remake. Has one of the best ad campaigns in movie history. Gave Tia Carrerre a paycheck. Commentary: Coming out in a weird, experimental time for Disney Animation, attempting to branch away from Broadway-style musicals and princess stories, Lilo and Stitch was by far the most successful. At the box office, with critics, and in creating a long-lasting franchise. In a way, despite the initially odd premise of a little girl becoming friends with an alien, it’s very clear why this oddball feature became so successful. Not just for the stupid kids watching, but for the parents who arguably get more out of the feature. And of course, the stupid kids who grow up to realize all the subtle details and pathos they didn’t click with when they were 5. Stitch, the goofy blue alien who loves destruction, became the breakout character for obvious reasons. He’s a silly weirdo who loves to eat, loves to cause chaos, and is just oh so adorable and cuddly. They still sell plushies and merch of him in stores over 2 decades later. And while he’s great, he’s just the cherry on top of a very powerful story of loss and familial comfort. Anchored by Lilo, a little girl who feels isolated from the rest of the world due to familial tragedy, much of the film is centered on the trauma that comes from losing family and loved ones. Trying to deal with a chaotic, terrible family life and situation at an age you’re unprepared for. A heartbreaking tale about two sisters trying to keep things all together, despite the world trying to tear them apart. It’s a movie that is quietly devastating, yet balanced perfectly by comedy, sci-fi adventure, and heart. Lilo and Stitch was, and still is, a massive deal with kids and adults, serving as one of Disney’s most valuable franchises, with a remake just around the corner. It catapulted Chris Sanders and Dean DeBlois to fame in the animation industry, with them finding great success at Dreamworks with the How to Train Your Dragon franchise, and works as a seminal piece of pure Disney magic.

#23 The Little Mermaid 1,448 points, 27 lists "Teenagers. They think they know everything. You give them an inch, they swim all over you." Box Office: 235M Rotten Tomatoes: 93% Metacritic: 88 Awards: 2 Academy Awards and 1 nomination, 2 Golden Globe Awards and 2 nominations, 2 Grammy Awards and 3 nominations Roger Ebert's Review: What's best about "The Little Mermaid" is the visual invention with which the adventures are drawn. There is a lightness and a freedom about the settings - from Triton's underwater throne room to storms at sea to Ursula's garden of captured souls (they look a little like the tourists buried in Farmer Vincent's back yard in "Motel Hell"). The colors are bright, the water sparkles with reflected light, and there is the sense that not a single frame has been compromised because of the cost of animation. Its Legacy: The film that began the Disney Renaissance. Brought Disney back to fairy tales and back to musicals. Ariel would become one of the most praised and criticized Disney Princesses ever. Influenced nearly every Disney fairy tale since its release. Appeared in Kingdom Hearts. Appears in all the theme parks. Earned two direct-to-video sequels. Earned a Broadway show. Earned a TV series, with a new on on the horizon. Earned a live-action remake. Considered one of the greatest animated movies of all time. Gave Kenneth Mars a paycheck. Commentary: The very film that saved Disney itself...well, kind of. It was actually a solid succession of films alongside other marketing factors that led to Little Mermaid becoming a huge juggernaut. Of course, it’s easier to put it all on the flashy princess movie that everybody loves and makes a ton of money even today. But...what was I talking about? Oh yeah, movie. This was Disney’s epic return to the world of fairy tales. Something they ignored since Sleeping Beauty 30 years ago. And it was an amazing return. Simply because this was a rare case of a film that captured everything we loved from what came before, while also having its own personality and paving the way for so many other future classics. It’s a film that is reminiscent of classics like Snow White and Sleeping Beauty, from the romance story to the fun side characters to the beautiful castles and backgrounds. Yet everything about it feels so fresh and modern and unique even after all these years. Must have been truly mind blowing in 1989. With incredible music, powerful sequences, and gorgeous colors, all of this works perfectly thanks to the incredible character that is Ariel. Sure, it can be easy to mock or mischaracterize her. But she captured so many people’s hearts and imaginations for obvious reasons. She was determined, she was active, she was curious, she was vibrant, and full of so much personality. Both in the incredible character animation of Glen Keane and the incredible vocals of Jodi Benson, both of whom had brought so much life and energy and earnestness to the character. This was a princess for the modern age and her personality would influence future heroines like Belle, Jasmine, Tiana, Mulan, Elsa, and more over the coming decades. And over 30 years later, Little Mermaid still feels modern and distinct and resonant, with the recent remake finding success and popularity with a whole new generation of audiences. It's the kind of legacy most movies dream of having.