Eric Quinn

I have now seen Heat. It is a good movie. Now please leave me alone

You're so sweet. You're hot too.

Only fine? I worked really hard on that!!!

Nah. It will lead to same endless “grr Disney bad” whining that is in this thread. That shit is tiring and obnoxious.

It’s a DC movie. When a DC movie comes out, the forum members all act like moronic children. Happens every time.

Off-topic discussions are a common part of weekend threads and are often encouraged so long as they don’t lead to flame wars or personal attacks. That hasn’t happened, so you might as well keep it going. We’ve already said more than enough about TLM and its performance at this point.

Why are you guys so obsessed with page counts?

Well that’s on the studios for milking franchises to death and being too piss-scared. It’s good karma. But just because Disney movies are down doesn’t mean they aren’t still going to be revenue generators for theaters. Like we’re all handwringing whether Little Mermaid will be profitable or not, it’s still going to be in the top 10 domestically and 285M is a lot for theaters. Marvel is also still at a point where it’s not like Doctor Strange 3 or whatever will do even sub-300, let alone sub-100. And at the end of the day, trends always change and people move on. A new trend will take its place eventually and while the state and number of theaters will be different, it’s still going to be around. My main hope would be a rebirth of New Hollywood, but that is obviously a pipe dream. Regardless, we’ll be fine. It will all be fine.

Either way, wanting a finished film to be canceled and never see the light of day is a very scummy and horrible thing that nobody should ever encourage or endorse. Hint hint.

I mean…they can’t cancel it? The movie was made. It’s in post-production right now. You can’t cancel a movie that’s done.

Of course, in the end, Disney getting knocked down these pegs is an objectively good thing? Like things were getting dreadful for the other studios because Disney demanded so much market space and box office might. Now things are a lot more evened out, which means stronger competition, which means better movies for everybody. Like we should all be happy Disney is being hit like this.

I'm assuming you were talking about overseas here? 🤔

It's definitely fascinating to think how Disney+ was viewed as Daddy Iger's most crowning achievement, yet it arguably killed their entire film division in one foul swoop and I'm sure there's tons of regrets over this. COVID obviously didn't help here, but now you're forcing all these film executives to oversee a bunch of TV shows, making it harder for everybody to look over things in regards to quality control and marketing campaign, then you have to also deal with the fact that most consumers know that they can just wait a few months to watch it for free, which hurts all other forms of revenue. Even if COVID never happened, this would still more than likely be our outcome. I know the service is set to be profitable by the end of the year, but was it really worth all the other losses that came from it?

The Flash Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-18 and Counting Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 98 1329 18907 7.03% Comp - T-18 0.305x of The Batman (6.58M) 0.899x of Jurassic World 3 (16.18M) 0.277x of Thor 4 (8.03M) 0.860x of Avatar 2 (14.62M) 0.346x of Ant-Man 3 (6.05M)

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-4 and Counting Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 123 3005 23838 12.61% Comp - T-4 2.586x of Sonic 2 (16.16M) 1.106x of Jurassic World 3 (19.91M) 0.389x of Thor 4 (11.28M) 2.159x of Black Adam (16.41M) 0.907x of Avatar 2 (15.42M) 0.539x of Ant-Man 3 (9.44M) 0.641x of Guardians 3 (11.21M) Yeah I realize I haven't posted updates much. I have been tracking this stuff every day, but I have been so busy with modding and work and personal stuff that it's hard to remember to post this stuff. Especially since even tracking two movies takes a good chunk out of my day. By the time I'm done with work, I have to move immediately to tracking movies. This is basically a long-winded way of me saying that after The Flash is done, I'm taking a hiatus from tracking Philly. It's just becoming more and more of a chore lately and I need some time away from it for a while.

Moderation Not the Star Wars/Last Jedi thread. Please.

Sadly no. Seems like a totally new poster. But I very much doubt they will last long on this forum at all.

Please don't feed the troll. Don't eat his bait.

I'm not saying Barbie's gonna do bad, but I think the whole "social media is bigger now" thing doesn't really track. Minions 2 performed like most of the other Despicable Me movies. M3GAN's opening and gross wasn't all that atypical for an original horror title. And even Cocaine Bear, which was lauded as this huge success story bolstered by TikTok memes, its opening was only $2 million more than Snakes on a Plane if you adjust for 2006 dollars. Just feels like in hindsight, the whole "wow TikTok is such a huge influence!" doesn't really track much.

This actually makes me feel like the whole "Disney movies lost their audience because DeSantis/Republicans" doesn't really hold much weight. Because that audience sector doesn't even go to the movies anymore anyways? Like moviegoing skews young, nonwhite, and more towards urban/metropolitan areas, all of which typically skew more left and Democrat. So they are the people who aren't typically into those gross Nazi tactics. Really, I'm in the camp that it's because Disney has the second-biggest streaming service on the planet and everybody knows they will be home in a couple months. And frankly, even if you put out the window for 6 months or more, I still don't think that's enough to shake that issue. Iger made his bed and now he has to live with it.

Movie theater owners looking over the crowds last Memorial Day

Caucasian shares have actually been down across the board post-COVID, to the point where most big movies typically have their shares in the 30% range. Using this year's top 10 biggest openings (which I know, it's still early, blah blah blah) 1. Mario: 30% white 2. Guardians 3: 41% 3. Ant-Man 3: 34% 4. Little Mermaid: 26% 5. John Wick 4: 32% 6. Fast X: 29% 7. Creed 3: 21% 8. Scream VI: 38% 9. Dungeons and Dragons: 48% 10. M3GAN: 37% And if you want to see last year's... Doctor Strange 2: 35% white Black Panther 2: 20% Jurassic World 3: 41% Thor 4: 39% Avatar 2: 33% The Batman: 41% Top Gun 2: 66% Minions 2: 35% Sonic 2: 29% Black Adam: 25% Spider-Man 3: 32% white Venom 2: 40% Black Widow: 46% Shang-Chi: 36% Eternals: 51% F9: 35% No Time to Die: 52% Halloween Kills: 38% A Quiet Place 2: 44% Ghostbusters Afterlife: 48% Using some pre-COVID openings... Avengers Endgame: 44% white The Lion King: 42% Star Wars 9: 56% Captain Marvel: 47% Frozen 2: 52% Toy Story 4: 49% Joker: 44% Spider-Man 2: 43% Aladdin: 42% It 2: 47% No Way Home losing 11% share from Far from Home is pretty extreme, while John Wick 3 had 42%, then 4 years later loses 10% of white viewers. That's a lot! The farther you go back, the harder it is to find race OW demos, but Sonic 1 had 42%, Black Panther had 35%, Ant-Man 2 was 51%, Creed 2 was 38%. I'm sure Beauty and the Beast was 40s, probably even more 50s. There is definitely a huge chunk of Caucasian audiences that just never show up for the movies anymore, which means that any gains from OS from casting a white Ariel, where Disney gets less money from, is offset by a lower DOM total.

Moderation We're done with this "are the dwarfs in Snow White offensive" argument. If you still want to fight, do it through PMs.

Guys, this is not even remotely true. If you check Wikipedia for five seconds, there’s an actor for Grumpy listed. Said actor also confirmed this. Please do research before you jump to conclusions. Thank you! https://collider.com/snow-white-cast-martin-klebba-grumpy-live-action-disney/

It will be hilarious when Mission Impossible only does like 250M and everybody melts down because it didn’t do a bajillion dollars. Like…you’re setting yourself up for disappointment