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  1. Sigh...well, with Pulse fucking up again, might as well start some of my comps already... Movie/Date Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Detective Pikachu 332 551 832 1,094 11 days 10 days 9 days 8 days John Wick 3 262 313 420 464 18 days 17 days 16 days 15 days Rocketman Early 0 0 113 1,045 17 days 16 days Aladdin 859 681 545 452 25 days 24 days 23 days 22 days Rocketman 0 0 67 87 30 days 29 days Secret Life of Pets 2 11 8 21 12 39 days 38 days 37 days 36 days Pikachu Day 11-8 19% of Incredibles 2 (34.1M) 148% of Lego Movie 2 (50.4M) 84% of Dragon 3 (46.3M) 109% of Dumbo (50.4M) 73% of Shazam (38.9M) Day 18-8 (minus days 14, 13 and 12) 18% of Incredibles 2 (32.6M) 138% of Lego Movie 2 (47.1M) 71% of Dragon 3 (38.9M) 74% of Dumbo (34M) 71% of Shazam (38.3M) Day 30-8 (minus days 14, 13 and 12) 32% of Incredibles 2 (59.1M) 111% of Dragon 3 (61.2M) Cumulative (minus days 14, 13 and 12) 26% of Incredibles 2 (47.3M) 311% of Lego Movie 2 (106.3M) 106% of Dragon 3 (58.2M) 168% of Dumbo (77.5M) 114% of Shazam (61.1M) The range is about 35M-75M at the moment, depending on what you're looking at. But generally speaking, somewhere around 45-60M is a more specific, and more preferred, ballpark, so let's use that. John Wick Day 18-15 11% of Captain Marvel (17.4M) Day 25-15 (minus days 21, 20, 19) 10% of Captain Marvel (15.5M) Day 32-15 (minus days 21, 20, 19) 18% of Captain Marvel (28.4M) It may seem bad, but the issue is that I don't have any good comps outside of Captain Marvel at the moment. Glass could work, but we can't use it until Monday, so... Aladdin First 4 Days 46% of Incredibles 2 (83.5M) 110% of Dumbo (50.9M) 131% of Shazam (70M) Day 25-22 115% of Incredibles 2 (210.7M) 306% of Dragon 3 (168.2M) 40% of Captain Marvel (60.9M) I don't think the 25-22 stuff should be taken super seriously, due to first couple days inflation, but looking at the "first 4 days" section, it's...fine? I'm just hoping it leans more into Incredibles than Dumbo at the moment. Rocketman Early First 2 Days 10% of Dragon 3's Early shows ($25K) 1231% of Lego 2's Early shows ($7.4M) 7% of Shazam's Early shows ($22K) Well...I thought I had an okay database to work with, but I guess not. Ah well. I don't have any comps for Rocketman at all (but if someone could go into the akvalley archives and look up BoRhap or ASIB, then hey...), and Pets is still too early to do anything definitive with yet.
  2. Disney needs to pull Captain Marvel out of theaters right now. There's no better number it could end on.
  3. Guess this is also further proof James Corden ruins everything he touches. At least we were the only ones predicting Intruder over Long Shot. Least we got that going for us.
  4. The Guardian (4/5) https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/may/05/yesterday-review-the-beatles-richard-curtis-danny-boyle-himesh-patel The Wrap (Negative) https://www.thewrap.com/yesterday-film-review-danny-boyle-beatles/ Variety (Mixed to Negative) https://variety.com/2019/film/reviews/yesterday-review-the-beatles-danny-boyle-1203205141/ Hollywood Reporter (Mixed to Negative) https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/yesterday-review-1207487 Indiewire (C-) https://www.indiewire.com/2019/05/yesterday-review-danny-boyle-1202131103/ My Summer Game is FUCKED
  5. ...where do I even start? Ah yes, because Escape Room, The Upside, How to Train Your Dragon and Us were all complete failures. And if I'm being honest, only Glass, Lego Movie 2 and maybe Us (although that's just more to weak legs, because...yeah, a 70M OW is nothing to sneeze at) performed under expectations. And while yes, you can be disappointing as well as profitable, when it comes to Glass and Us...yeah, Jason Blum ain't crying. Escape Room, Upside, Dragon, and even Alita also performed above tracking and BOT expectations. I'm sure I can find plenty more if I dig deeper. Sure, they're not making Endgame money, but is that really a fair bar for movies like these? And if you want to bring up other movies that came out the past couple of months that tanked, the issue is less that people only like Marvel movies, but more that most of the movies that did mediocre the past couple of months were either super niche, or just flat out sucked. And honestly, why should audiences go and support bad movies anyway? It's not Marvel's fault people ditched Pet Sematary after its first weekend or they rejected Hellboy. And good on audiences for not supporting bad movies. Hell, if we look at last year, which saw non-superhero movies like Fallen Kingdom, The Grinch, Fallout, Bohemian Rhapsody, A Star is Born, Ralph Breaks the Internet, A Quiet Place, Crazy Rich Asians, Hotel Transylvania 3, Halloween, The Meg, Ocean's 8, Ready Player One, Mamma Mia 2, Creed II, Peter Rabbit, Equalizer 2, The Mule, Fifty Shades Freed, Green Book, I Can Only Imagine, and so much more be successful, your whole "this year, people only want superhero movies" theory doesn't hold water. You seriously think that once the new year came around, the GA said, "welp, guess I'm only going to watch superhero movies from now on. Screw all the other movies"? First of all, Aladdin is not out yet. For all we know, it could open to 100M+ in a couple weeks. Don't start your eulogy right now. Second, yes. Some of these movies flopped. You can argue they all underperformed. But you're seriously going to put stuff like Pirates 5 or Pete's Dragon in the same basket as Solo or Nutcracker? This can vary from person to person, but generally speaking, my rule of thumb for whether a movie breaks even is if its box office is at least 2.5x its production budget. Granted it's not a perfect measurement, but somewhere above that ballpark is usually a sign the studio is at least satisfied with a performance. And looking at the stuff you listed, Christopher Robin and Mary Poppins Returns passed that benchmark, and if we're using Pirates 5's high end of $320M, it's only just barely below that 2.5x benchmark. Go down the lower end, and it's 3.45x its production budget. Most studios would kill for a ratio like that. And even then, Pete's Dragon isn't that far behind with 2.21x its production budget, and Dumbo's probably going to at least double its production budget. It's still not great, but with ancillaries, these movies probably will break even soon or have already broken even. A recent Deadline article even had Dumbo's production budget seemingly revised to $130M. Don't know if that's accurate or not, but using that budget, Dumbo's already past my "break even" threshold. Sure, none of these results are great, but if you're seriously acting like these movies are massive failures, especially under the same statement as something like Solo, you are a sad, strange little man. Hell, if we're talking the last three years, Warner Bros. has had way more "failures" within this timeframe. (Fist Fight, CHiPs, Unforgettable, King Arthur, The House, Lego Ninjago, Blade Runner 2049, Geostorm, Justice League, Father Figures, 12 Strong, The 15:17 to Paris, Life of the Party, Lego Movie 2, Isn't it Romantic). Now granted, WB does release more movies, and only a couple of these fall into the Solo/Wrinkle in Time bombs, but seeing as how you have a pretty low threshold for what could be considered a failure, why aren't you giving WB their eulogy or complaining about how these movies represent the death of cinema or some bullshit? Now I'm not gonna come up here and act like I think these movies will be monster hits. But again, you don't know what they're going to do. And really? Disney+ was made because some of Disney's movies bombed? That's the sole reason? Disregarding the fact Disney's had several hit films, albeit from their animated divisions and Marvel/Lucasfilm, when it comes to media conglomerates like Disney, the film division is not the main crux to the machine. For Disney's sake, I'd argue their films are around third or fourth within the Disney division heirarchy, behind theme parks, merchandising and television. If I'm being honest, Bob Iger isn't gonna lose sleep because A Wrinkle in Time bombed. You wanna know the real reason Iger's pushing Disney+? Because streaming is a popular and lucrative medium, and Disney wants to cash in on it and rival companies like Netflix and Amazon. That's it. The whole reason Disney even bought Fox in the first place was to get a majority stake in Hulu and to bolster the streaming content. You seriously think because Dumbo bombed, Iger said to himself, "y'know what? I have to focus all my time on Disney+. My film division is in complete and utter shambles, so this is the only thing I have left." ...what are you even talking about? Yes actually. It's not super common here, but once in a while the issue of "superhero fatigue" arrives (albeit it's often jokey). And anecdotal, but my Mom's exhausted and annoyed at all these Marvel and DC movies coming out. There's definitely people tired of these movies. Lastly....I think you need to take a break from this forum? Looking at some of your recent posts, you seem really tense and nervous and stressed out over movies potentially bombing, and randos not liking stuff. Remember, box office is far from the most important thing in the world to think about. And you proclaiming death to cinema because BOP is lowballing Aladdin says to me you need to relax.
  6. Just as an aside, LionsFlop was stupid to have Long Shot drop the weekend after Endgame. In its old June release date, it coulda opened to at least in the high teens.
  7. *sees AKValley updated their Pulse count* *Realizes that it only has the two last hours, one of which is deffo incomplete. The 15:00 marker is also incomplete*
  8. I do like Charlie, but he generally gets really hype and excited with early numbers, especially since he's an MCU fan. Nothing wrong with that, but I generally like RTH more (hoping Charlie's right tho)
  9. Look at the bright side. The Star Trek Nicktoon finna be lit
  10. Alas, Friday After Next was a real disappointment to the saga.
  11. IW will come to Disney+ eventually. Once it wraps up its run on Netflix in a few months, it'll be available on Disney+ sometime in 2020
  12. Well...guess that says a lot about why you shouldn't make a movie about them.
  13. Wait, Uglydolls was based on a toy line? I legit thought this was something made up for the movie.
  14. https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-tracking-annabelle-comes-home-plus-post-avengers-updates/ Annabelle Comes Home: 35-45 range. 39/101 Pikachu: 55-79 (-18%)/215 (-14%) Aladdin: 66 (-18%)/185 (-16%) Jeez.
  15. Generally though, trailers "attached" to movies come from the same studio.
  16. Runtimes w/out credits and attachments for next week's releases: Detective Pikachu: 1:37. Attachments unknown (probably...nothing? Nothing down the docket that would probably get a trailer in front of this, unless they really want to start promo for Scooby) Tolkien: 1:46. Attachments unknown (probably Lucy in the Sky and Stuber) The Hustle: 1:28. Attachments are Booksmart and Where'd You Go, Bernadette? Poms hasn't updated yet. But the attachments will probably be My Spy and Playmobil
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