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  1.     TF4               FF7        
    Day Daily % Change % BO -OW Total $ Tot   Daily % Change TF4 vs FF7 Total $ Tot TF4 Day Mltplier Day xM +OW $ Proj
    OW 630.7     630.7 103   398     398 64      
    Mon 123.1   9.07 753.8 124   184   49.47% 582 94 11.03 2,421 390
    Tues 112.2 -8.85% 8.25 866 142   167 -9.24% 48.84% 749 121 12.12 2,416 389
    Wed 94.6 -15.69% 6.97 960.6 157   137 -17.96% 44.82% 886 143 14.35 2,358 380
    Thur 84.2 -10.99% 6.21 1044.8 171   114 -16.79% 35.39% 1000 161 16.10 2,228 359
    Fri 87.1 3.44% 6.42 1131.9 186   142 24.56% 63.03% 1142 184 15.58 2,604 419
    Sat 129.6 48.79% 9.55 1261.5 207             10.47    
    Sun 117.9 -9.03% 8.69 1379.4 226             11.51    
                              Proj Ave 387
    Day TF4 FF7                        
    1 194.8 398                        
    2 222.8 184                        
    3 213.1 167                        
    4 123.1 137 11.29%                      
    5 112.2 114 1.60%                      
    6 94.6 142 50.11%                      
    Total 960.6 1142 18.88%                      

     

    I was hoping for 150+ but 142 aint bad. any chance of it increasing? its still early. Looks like it could be 90m weekend

     

    Whats really impressive is that they have now sold the same amount of tickets and FF7 is 63% higher for fri-fri comparison. the fact that M-Th averaged 44% more on respective days and that it increased to 63% for fri portends much better strength for next week

     

    Since TF4 opened to 100m and pulled down 220m more, could FF7 pull in 200m more after a 90m weekend? That would be 450m. Just some Chinese food for thought. Dumplings please, steamed

     

    400m upgrade to very possible. Monday could be the day to lock it

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  2. probaly will hit if because of china but rest of world will not make 700 mil with Avengers around the corner imo.

    it will get close to 700 OS + 400 CH. 1.05-1.1b

    factor in that it would've been 933+ 400= 1333 + 350dom= 1.688b w XR just 6months ago w far less 3d ww and F7 blew the doors off avengers tix sales.

     

    F7 will out sell AoU in tickets. could lose in dollars due to 3d though

  3. 50% you are exxagerating here your telling me the 1st avengers would only make 750 ww in 2015 pull the other one lol! It Will increase in latin american and asia for sure and will double if not more the 80 mil it made in China Europe will do better then expected imo too.

    IB OS I meant. subtract china the subtract 25% for XR then add china aback in. 690m. will have to sell nearly 50% more tix (310M) to get to 1B.

     

    If china adds 200m by itself then the rest of OS will have to increase by nearly 20%, 110M of 600m. sequels that start w smaller OS relative to Dom can increase big time but this started out huge.

  4. I agree roughly this I think Avengers will do over a billion os more hoping as i'd love to see another film pass a billion or maybe even two with FF7 and SW7.

    AoU will have to sell 50% more tickets than TA to get to a billion ww. Tall order. for a sequal to do for a large predecessor.  Will need the big china boost and 20% increase in tix sales for rest of OS. 

  5. I am not too sure about the $100m weekend projection...... with weekdays at such high levels, I suspect Fri/Sat jumps would be muted.

    I'd be pretty happy with $80m weekend (500m Yuan).

    But if $100m materializes then awesome!

     

    I am not too sure about the $100m weekend projection...... with weekdays at such high levels, I suspect Fri/Sat jumps would be muted.

    I'd be pretty happy with $80m weekend (500m Yuan).

    But if $100m materializes then awesome!

    because of the high weekdays the weekend could be huge. so many people shut out on sunday created a spillover and hype that should carry over to the weekend. Manny movies do 4 times  non summer/holiday Thursday on the weekend.  TF4 did 3,5 x its summer Thursday.

     

    With little competition, a lot of showtimes, spillover for those that couldn't go during week and the hype it created  could bring in 100m.

    80m is a slam dunk but I would feel a little disappointed it did that at the rate its been going

  6. Do you mean non-English or foreign as in from outside the US? British and Australian films that are a success outside of their home market often earn more in the US.

    foreign production and non English.  Australian and british films aren't really considered to be foreign or an import anymore by media and the masses. its just accepted as a regular film. They used to dub Aussie films 40 years ago because they thought Domesticans mite not understand the accent/slang. They look and feel like Hollywood these days and often are co produced, mad max 1 felt like an import when it first came out.

    Biggest foreign language film? Domestic- The passion of the Christ 611m ww.  gonna be some time before china beats that one. film exports not going so well as their factory items

  7. TF4 is (currently) the only billion dollar film worldwide where DOM isn't the biggest market.

     

    I'm not sure what the next film down on that list (DOM not the biggest market). Some things I have found, though:

     

    The Last Samurai earned 111m DOM and 119m in Japan. WW it got 456m.

     

    The Intouchables, which has a WW take of 426m (DOM gross about 10m).

     

    Pacific Rim is noted before : 411m WW gross. China (112m) higher than DOM (102m).

     

     

    Mamma Mia! doesn't meet the mark, but it does come close. 144m DOM gross and 132m UK gross. 608m WW.

    That's about it, however the intouchables wasn't a Dom movie. Was French where it did 166m and came close to beating avatar 175m,

    on smaller movies SK loved About Time and Spain nearly tripled the dom on The Impossible

     

    someone has to explain to me how excape plan did so well in china, those two should move there , make bad chinese films and make millions of yuan

     

    我會回來的       喲阿德里安·我做到了

     

    Wonder if that translated into something about Jurassic park :lol: 

  8. How can people say, that 400m is a lock here?

    I mean, let's have a look at compareable movies over in the US, let's say, Iron Man 3.

    It did 196m in 5 days and still bareley crossed 400m, even less after 4 weeks of realease, where it only stood at 370m.

    I know different days of release, but with Chinas limited releases, it would need some big holds to get there.

    IM3 had a 3 day weekend plus Thursday evening shows added in for its "5" days. FF7 averaged $25m for 4 weekdays to get to its number. By comparison IM3 is extremely front loaded. IM3 averaged 9.5m p/d its 1st midweek. With a 60% drop next week FF7 will average close to 10m p/wd. In essence the sunday opening throws everything out of whack, The next 7 days are going be much larger as the weekend will increase and the weekdays will double that of IM3.

    IM3 was 295 on day 12 with a 5.2m tuesday. FF7 is likely at 290 on day 12 with $10m Thursday. Its got a shot. But you're right; it wont be able to leg it out as IM3 did, so it will need to hold big and do nearly all of the damage  by may 3. There wont be a lot of legs after that. I wouldn't call it a lock buyt its gat a chance. I will lock it if it does 100m this weeknd.

  9. Day Daily % Change % BO -OW Total $ Tot   Daily % Change TF4 vs FF7 Total $ Tot TF4 Day Mltplier Day xM +OW $ Proj
    OW 630.7     630.7 103   392     392 63      
    Mon 123.1   9.07 753.8 124   184   49.47% 576 93 11.03 2,421 390
    Tues 112.2 -8.85% 8.25 866 142   167 -9.24% 48.84% 743 120 12.12 2,416 389
    Wed 94.6 -15.69% 6.97 960.6 157   137 -17.96% 44.82% 880 142 14.35 2,358 380
    Thur 84.2 -10.99% 6.21 1044.8 171   118 -13.87% 40.14% 998 161 16.10 2,292 369
    Fri 87.1 3.44% 6.42 1131.9 186             15.58    
    Sat 129.6 48.79% 9.55 1261.5 207             10.47    
    Sun 117.9 -9.03% 8.69 1379.4 226             11.51    
                              Proj Ave 382
    Day TF4 FF7                        
    1 194.8 392                        
    2 222.8 184                        
    3 213.1 167                        
    4 123.1 137 11.29%                      
    5 112.2 118 5.17%                      
    Total 866 998 15.24%                      

     

     

    Slid a little more than I hoped but its pulling ahead of TF4 at a healthy rate on head to head comparison.for 5 days

     

    40% more on the thur to thur comparison with nearly as many tickets sold now shows its true strength .

     

    Will be close to first 100m midweek of all time when actuals come out. Dom has yet to do that.

    Weekend should be at least 4x Thursday or 80m or more if continues to amaze us.

     

    TF4  and FF7 Dom locked at this point. Will be the 1st over performing Dom movie outdrawn in China. PacRim and TF4 weren't overperformers and certainly not Escape Plan. 400m reachable, but it needs to do 90m this weekend and other things to go right.

     

    I still think that guy was talking about Jurassic Park. Google is never wrong!)

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  10. that table doesn't add up correctly. WW was 800m on sunday. They have the 78m m-w for china in there.

    Ifi t was just Monday it woukld be 846~ including M dom. If it is Monday and china thru wed then its 896, and just over 900 with tues reported dom.

    gotto be at least 925, htru wed ww

    960 thru thur

     

    china should be between 80-100m this weekend. 50m rest of OS. 30m dom

     

    WW should be 1.12b- 1.14b this weekend

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  11. Day Daily % Change % BO -OW Total $ Tot   Daily % Change TF4 vs FF7 Total $ Tot TF4 Day Mltplier Day xM +OW $ Proj
    OW 630.7     630.7 103   392     392 63      
    Mon 123.1   9.07 753.8 124   178   44.60% 570 92 11.03 2,355 379
    Tues 112.2 -8.85% 8.25 866 142   167 -6.18% 48.84% 737 119 12.12 2,416 389
    Wed 94.6 -15.69% 6.97 960.6 157   137 -17.96% 44.82% 874 141 14.35 2,358 380
    Thur 84.2 -10.99% 6.21 1044.8 171             16.10    
    Fri 87.1 3.44% 6.42 1131.9 186             15.58    
    Sat 129.6 48.79% 9.55 1261.5 207             10.47    
    Sun 117.9 -9.03% 8.69 1379.4 226             11.51    
                              Proj Ave 383
    Day TF4 FF7                        
    1 194.8 392                        
    2 222.8 178                        
    3 213.1 167                        
    4 123.1 137 11.29%                      
    Total 753.8 874 15.95%                      

     

    Looking like the real deal. Its beating TF4 str8 up 4 days without a full weekend and Wed beats TF4s summer Monday.

    Its got a shot at 90-100m weekend with how these numbers are holding up if they don't mess with it.

    Should pass TF4 fast on Saturday with 2 less days in release, with a much more furious Sat number(40+% bigger) and with 7 more hits of nitrous in the tank!
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  12.    

    Actually since a few thousand years ago, China has always had one of largest population in the world. The main reason is that like India, historically China is probably the largest continous piece of agriculture real estate in the world. Because Yellow River and the Yangtze River plains have created a lot of large pieces of plains that are very suitable for agricultural planting, to the extend that, It is believed that, the first dynasty in China, Xia (夏), was initially builded for the needs of taming the Yellow River more than 4000 years ago.

    In modern days, a couple of tens of thousands of square kilometers rich land can feed millions of people. The nomads, like the Xiongnu (Huns), had to rove around as a nomad nomadic because their land is infertile.

    But even ancient China had limited lands (read the Idea of Multhus), hence there were so many internal wars for farmlands and risidents. Thankfully Science and Technology have greatly advanced so today Earth can support 7B people.

     

    like I said. more food more people. I agree w u.  many parts of china and india have multiple growing seasons that help too and are the oldest civilizations

    But with unreplenishable aquifers being drained, rivers drying up, oil peaking (needed for tractors, herbacides. pesticides, fertalizers, processing and transport to the cities), the worlds fish stock dwindling and many other factors, feeding 8b people in the not too distant future could be a problem. I live in india, trust me, not all 7b people are being fed now due to some negative impacts of globalization.

    Lets enjoy the movies while it lasts!!

    Looking forward to the wed number...

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  13. USA+Canada larger in area but less than 1/4 the inhabitants of China

    a little more than a quarter, 27%, live in Dom vs China 355m vs 1.3b

    Not many people live in 90% of Canada and Alaska. very cold.

    short growing season in most of Dom. historically speaking; less food, less people

    Dom only 400 years old, china 5000 years old

    People living in Dom for 10000 years, china 30,000 years

    Chinese don't handle achohol very well and forget about birth control :P

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  14.     TF4               FF7        
    Day Daily % Change % BO -OW Total $ Tot   Daily % Change TF4 vs FF7 Total $ Tot TF4 Day Mltplier Day xM +OW $ Proj
    OW 630.7     630.7 103   392     392 63      
    Mon 123.1   9.07 753.8 124   178   44.60% 570 92 11.03 2,355 379
    Tues 112.2 -8.85% 8.25 866 142   167 -6.18% 48.84% 737 119 12.12 2,416 389
    Wed 94.6 -15.69% 6.97 960.6 157             14.35    
    Thur 84.2 -10.99% 6.21 1044.8 171             16.10    
    Fri 87.1 3.44% 6.42 1131.9 186             15.58    
    Sat 129.6 48.79% 9.55 1261.5 207             10.47    
    Sun 117.9 -9.03% 8.69 1379.4 226             11.51    

     

     

    A few columns added.

    The TF4 daily percentage of BO reflects post OW BO

    The FF7 projection = daily multiplier derived from TF4s% x day + OW

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  15. Since the opening weekends are not comparable and making it hard to see which is ahead and by how much, I created this table to attempt to project the BO based on individual days going forward. Hard to tell if FF7 is having these huge weekdays because of less weekend burn off or if it will be hurt in its run going forward do to the shortened OW.  We can compare the daily % change side by side then multiply out a projection. OW BO is removed when tabulating the percentage of BO for TF4 going forward. A multiplier is then used on FF7 with the OW then added back in so that we have an apples to apple comparison, sort of... 

     

     

        TF4         FF7  
    Day Daily BO % Change % of BO minus OW   Daily BO % Change Apply TF4 % plus OD ( B) US$ Proj Total (M)
    Mon 123.1   9.07   178   2,355 379
    Tues 112.2 -8.85% 8.25   167 -6.18% 2,416 389
    Wed 94.6 -15.69% 6.97          
    Thur 84.2 -10.99% 6.21          
    Fri 87.1 3.44% 6.42          
    Sat 129.6 48.79% 9.55          
    Sun 117.9 -9.03% 8.69          

     

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