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3 hours ago, Noctis said:
I didn't know this was coming out in April...wtf
There's a James Bond film coming out in five months?
Actually, the non-marketing to date isn't out of the ordinary. First teaser for Skyfall was almost exactly five months before release. From what I can tell, teaser for QoS was about 4 1/2 months before release.
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Threat title needs updating.... RT down to 96%
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14 hours ago, Poseidon said:
Aladdin turned it around with the official trailer, when they scored with "A Whole New World".
I would argue that Aladdin turned it around after opening weekend, with great WOM.
Aladdin's 3.9x multiplier (for the 3 day opening; 4 day holiday opening multiplier was 3.1) is far greater than that of Lion King (2.8) and Beauty and the Beast (2.9). Better than Jungle Book's 3.5x as well.
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Regarding the budget, given the very nature of the movie (people are cats), every single frame needs CGI. Every single character on screen at all times will be CGI'd. That's not going to be cheap. Even the past two Avengers films had a couple scenes that didn't need special effects.
Additionally, filming only wrapped back in April, and there were reports a few weeks ago that the film wouldn't be ready for early December awards screenings, so clearly the studio has been rushing to get the effects finished. And rushing to finish effects involves throwing more money at the problem.
So while I highly doubt it's as high as the reported $300m figure, I would not be surprised at all to learn that the budget is over $200m.
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1 hour ago, The Horror of Lucas Films said:
People here can be so overdramatic. It looks stunning visually.
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Another huge clunker. This one doesn't even feel like a trailer. Feels like an extended TV spot. Between the cheap looking title cards, barrage of disconnected visuals, lack of explanation of the characters, blah blah blah. Without going into the Digital Fur Technology, this is is a badly presented trailer.
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CATS twitter just tweeted an hourglass. Brace for impact. Hide your children.
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I doubt the budget is that high, but it will be enormous. The oversized practical sets and props alone are expensive, let alone slapping a CGI layer on every actor in every frame.
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6 minutes ago, kitik said:
Stop it. They din't mention a ton of films. Are you suggesting anything about Soul or Jungle Cruise too?
Until I see a single piece of marketing for this film, that's due to release in 5 months by the way, I will not believe this will release in theaters in April. With this set of moves, Disney had an opportunity to reinforce their commitment to a theatrical release, but New Mutants isn't getting a single mention anywhere.
How are those reshoots going?
Disney + is looking pretty sunny these days...
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19 minutes ago, kitik said:
Say wha??????
The King's Man and other movies change their dates, but New Mutants stays where it is???
No mention of New Mutants at all in this round of news. Not even a mention of it keeping it's current date. Just entirely disregarded.
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That is leagues better than the first trailer. Feels like a different movie. Felt the humor this time.
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27 minutes ago, Xftg123 said:
Exactly. He did the entire Hangover trilogy.
and more significantly, Due Date.
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1 minute ago, WittyUsername said:
The budget’s going to be that low?
Per Aykroyd, yes. Here's an interview with him from this past May. The following selection (with my emphasis) is him talking about the overspending on GB16, and how that has resulted in a low-budget GB20.
CP: Your "Ghostbusters" reboot has taken a long time to come to the screen.
Aykroyd: (Original director) Ivan Reitman's son Jason has written a beautiful script, I can't say too much about it but it's going to get made and hopefully there'll be some familiar faces.... But I don't want to discount the work that the girls did with Paul Feig. I kind of got mad, but I realized I should have blamed myself as a producer, the costs were out of control, I should have been watching as a producer a little more, but you don't dispute with your director.
You hire a director, you trust a director, you trust their vision. But the job that (stars) Kate (McKinnon), and Kristen (Wiig), and Leslie (Jones) and Melissa (McCarthy) did and indeed Paul did on that movie was superior, or superb. We would have done another one but, again, the cost overruns prevented the studio from looking at it and doing another ladies' movie....
Now we're going to do it in a sensible way. Costs will be under control and it'll be brought in for a sensible budget without waste and that's what's important now in getting it made.
CP: What's the budget?
Aykroyd: It's definitely going to be way under $100 (million). I would think. Movies cost a lot today. It can't be $30 (million), $50 (million) would be stretching it. I don't know. Listen, it's going to be as little as we can spend.
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13 minutes ago, JB33 said:
There's one very key similarity though: nobody asked for it. There's no rooted interest in it.
Yeah, and two years ago no one wanted a Joker film.
I see a pathway for this film's success, if it embraces a low-budget nature and emphasizes the Stranger Things/It feeling of nostalgic adolescence.
What are the honest, realistic thresholds this film needs to cross to be considered a success (lets assume a $50m budget). Lets say $30 OW, $100m domestic, $200m global. Is that a success?
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32 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:
Like with Terminator: Dark Fate, GB2020 is supposed to be a revitalization of a beloved 80s franchise that’s coming out a mere four years after the last movie tanked. That was why I made the comparison.
One of those is an R-rated action drama that cost nearly $200m to produce.
The other is going to be a family-centric supernatural comedy with a budget in the range of $30-$50m (per Dan Aykroyd)
I don't see how Dark Fate's failure has any relation to GB2020.
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3 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:
Does the failure of Terminator: Dark Fate spell trouble for this movie?
I don't see direct connections at all.
Different genres, ratings, budgets, release dates, blah blah blah.
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Some new tidbits from THR:
Budget is $250m
"Lashana is one of the main characters in the film"
"[Paloma] is a character that is very irresponsible," says de Armas. "She's got this bubbliness of someone who is excited to be on a mission, but she plays with this ambiguity — you don't really know if she's like a really trained, prepared partner for Bond."
I'm guessing Moneypenny is getting shoved to the background to make way for these two new female agent characters.
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Anyone else find it odd that this film is out in 6 weeks, yet there's been no second trailer? It's been 16 weeks since the first trailer debuted during Comic Con.
We're not seeing any push right now to change the bad narrative that resulted from that first trailer.
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This is the fifth Terminator trilogy that will never happen.
The first being Terminator, T-2, and Cameron's initial plans for T3 in the late 90s.
The second being the soft-reboot T3, with new stars Nick Stahl and Claire Danes, who were expected to lead sequels.
The third being the Salvation trilogy ("Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins" being the initial title for Salvation)
The fourth being the Genisys trilogy.
The fifth being the Dark Fate trilogy.
I can't think of another franchise that has failed so freaking much.
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2 minutes ago, A Star is Orm said:
Dark Universe...
Thor: The Dark World is widely considered the weakest MCU film.
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How on earth was this granted a budget of $185m? If Genisys was considered a failure ($155m budget, $90m domestic, $440 global), why did they throw even more money at the wall, as if that would cure all that ails? I don't think James Cameron understands problem solving in a way that doesn't involves just more buckets of cash.
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I can't wait for Jumanji: The Final Boss in a couple years.
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GODZILLA vs. KONG | March 31 2021 | Adam Wingard to direct
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Finally WB delays GvK. It was always a horrible idea to release it 10 months after GoTM (even if KotM was, somehow, as big a success as G'14). This was one of the most obvious delay candidates in the history of potentially delayed blockbusters.