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#1 problem here is that they waited too long to make this movie. Should have been made as soon as possible following the first. Then they wouldn't have been caught up in this windstorm of superhero-fatigue that will likely derail the genre for a few years...until the "next great thing" comes along. The behind-the-scenes troubles don't sound like anything that doesn't already plague most studio blockbusters these days.
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14 hours ago, ListenHunnyUrOver said:
John Rocha said it was weird that Emma Stone turned down this as it’s a prestigious project since F4 is Marvel’s first family and all that. Like, how is starring in the third high profile version of F4 prestigious?
Exactly. And Marvel's not exactly in a prestige place right now, either. Pascal will be getting paid some biiiiiig bucks to sign on... And they probably still struggled to get an A-lister for the villain...
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Never saw Chan's version. So his name wasn't Miyagi in it? Kinda disappointing -- I was hoping for a scene like: "I knew a Mr. Miyagi...he's not you." "We'll see, Daniel-san." Macchio and Chan will obviously greet each other with a confrontation.
Look at the tension in the video, itself...Macchio is even leaning away from Chan...whose English seems to have gotten worse since he retreated back to Chinese Cinema.
But if Zabka isn't in this...we riot.
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Well, WB clearly is being honest with its genre audience... "Last Stand" indeed...no mystery about Momoa's future in the role, here...
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More Hulks will definitely be around...soon. It's not an IF...it's only a question of WHEN...this may indeed be the vehicle to do it...with a few surprise cameos added in. (but yeah, She-Hulk appearances will be kept to a minimum for a while...)
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Yeesh. Wonder how Hartnett feels about Ratner posting this image. I'd be surprised if he approved it. Ratner is grasping at straws of any remaining career, of course...
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I already wrote RDJ's epilogue final-final scene...after he shows up again in SECRET WARS...and segues his IRON MAN identity to...another younger Tony Stark from another universe.
RDJ: Hey. So you're me...or I'm you. Whatever. Shawarma anyone?
Nu-Stark: I heard you saved the universe...three times.
RDJ: Yeah, yeah, all in a day's work. I had some help. And a Hulk. Look...in the future, don't do what I did. No wait -- DO do what I did...just do it differently. And take care of the kid. Don't call me.
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Nicolas Cage Calls AI ‘Inhumane’ and a ‘Nightmare,’
Says CGI Changed His Superman ‘Flash’ Cameo: Spider Fight ‘Was Not What I Did’ on Set
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On 10/29/2023 at 9:47 PM, Bob Train said:
I do not believe that the audiences of today don't care about Superman, it is just that he has starred in crap movies created by people who do not understand the character in the slightest. Even still, BvS and MoS were not that long ago and both opened huge.
Based on its historic premise and what they spent on it, BvS really should have opened to at least twice of what it did. And of course it should have performed better and not cratered even in its opening weekend...but its reception was dire...let's not roll down that road again...
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47 minutes ago, Shindaya said:
what's funny is when I saw the test screening a few months back, they had the stylzed art credits that credited everyone except the writers, it just said "written by TBD" I've never encountered that before. IDK if it had to do with the actors being on strike at the time? Nia was listed, Feige, all the actors, production design and producers, but no writers
Likely not, more likely they simply hadn't determined final writing credits! But yes, it's rather late in the game... Of course there's still a minute chance that Marvel/Disney could pull this and push it back to next year, but as lots here are saying, all the signals simply seem to point to knowing they have a lackluster movie on their hands, and they're just going to push it out there and get it over with... I still don't quite understand how the first one got to $1billion, but obviously lots of pent-up needs for more female superhero representation had a lot to do with it. If given the choice, though, I'd rewatch "Wonder Woman" over this one anyday.
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We'll see...not if the Writers' Strike continues! If it doesn't start shooting soon, it will be pushed. And even if it starts shooting in August, it will be seen as a "rushed" production...(though in the old days, this could be accomplished fine!)
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24 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said:
It's beyond me how these guys keep getting work...
These guys are the same writers of Gods of Egypt, Last Witch Hunter, Power Rangers reboot ( this one I liked ), Dracula Untold ( this one I also enjoyed ).
Do they know some dirty / dark secret about executives or anything like that?
These are all movies that got made, and mostly attracted some quality talent behind and in front of the camera, regardless of their reception. In filmmaking (and especially Hollywood), it's considered a victory just to get something actually shot! And for screenwriters, any of their projects actually getting made is considered a double victory!
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28 minutes ago, Coneilg93 said:
Eh, with the way WB was hyping it up, you would think it would be in the 90%+.
Jeff Robinov (at Warner Bros. at the time) boasted that MAN OF STEEL would gross $1 Billion. And of course we have the now-infamous stories of test screenings of BvS receiving a "standing ovation"
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There will obviously be a USA premiere.
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6 hours ago, interiorgatordecorator said:
yes he says that hes signed on for all 4 movies, but something about his tone afterwards and how he talked about his future project made me think it wasnt a 100% done deal
Well...the films aren't officially in production, yet. 3 has been shot and is on its way. Films 4 and 5 are very likely to happen, but to our public knowledge, they are not officially greenlighted yet for full go-ahead. They've shot a few pieces of them, but I'm sure it will be formally announced when these are officially on the go.
And yes, Avatar 2 and 3 were originally one film that was split out, and I think part of the reason was simply the time/distance that developed between Film 1 and 2, encouraging Cameron and crew to want to make Film 2 a "transitional" entry.
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On 1/13/2023 at 2:00 PM, poweranimals said:
So the question is when will Kang turn blue?
He has a blue-tinted mask he puts on that resembles his comic look; I expect that's the closest we'll get.
I don't know if they want another blue/purple universal threat...
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On 1/16/2023 at 12:21 AM, eddyxx said:
I hate that you're right about this.
Marvel needs to send Simu Liu on a apology tour across China.
Uh... No, they don't. No one needs to "apologize" to China for anything, let alone just to make money. And I think that's largely stopped being even thought about after John Cena's debacle of an attempt.
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11 hours ago, Sheldon Cr said:
What do you think they will do with Ezras Miller at this point btw? As wild as that suggestion was by fans.. I think they actually could digitally replace him and reshoot some scenes to make Miller less central to the plot. Does the new WB risk a big backlash with this film ending with Miller as the future of the Flash brand?
All indications are from the trade buzz that Warner Bros. is not doing this -- even if it was possible, they've spent so much on the movie already, and it's too cost-prohibitive for this particular movie based on the dramatic setup of the film and Miller's multiple presences in it (often multiple Millers sharing the same shots and scenes). This is not an "All the Money in the World"/Christopher Plummer situation. Plus, all the buzzed test-screening responses, if we want to believe them, seems grand, regardless. I don't see them changing much of the core of the movie.
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1 hour ago, Sheldon Cr said:
If It was promoted he would do something that was significant and it leads to Mos2 then thats something. So I disagree brother, some fans didn't even know superman was in the movie until Black Adam was already looking like a flop. DC did a terrible job of promoting the Henry cameo. You bet had they had a big director and caville was back as supes it would have been huge.
Best supes and Clark Kent ever big screen or small will always be Christopher Reeves and I think an honorable mention has to go to Tom Welling of Smallville. Too bad he turned it down back in 2007-2009. He was so good in smallville.
And Micheal Rosenbaums Lex Luthor is the best of all time. And yes I feel he bests even Hackman"s legendary Lex bigtime in my opinion and apparently many fan polls felt the same way. Would love to see him as a big budget big screen Lex Luthor. He has even expressed interest in his hit podcast online.
This new younger superman reboots sounds like a crash and burn project in the making. The new DC needs to really think over yet another reboot that folks never asked for.
Warner Bros./DC was clearly not interested in publicly promoting Cavill's Superman as part of Black Adam until after the movie opened, because it was a post-credits tease -- It was ALL The Rock's doing in the weeks leading up and at the premiere, because yes, he must have read the tracking, and realized they were desperate to get people into theaters. There was clearly disagreement behind the scenes -- if the studio were truly behind Cavill, they would have signed him back on years ago. Plus, there was no real "DC Studios" organization in place in the fall just prior to Black Adam's release, as Walter Hamada was on his way out. Cavill then "announced" on his Instagram the next week, which he "apparently" had some Warner Bros. studio approval for, but some reports dispute this. But none of it matters because Black Adam flopped and of course the whole DC Regime changed during the fall. So the old plans were out.
There is no evidence that Welling was ever officially offered a Superman feature, especially not in 2007-2009, and he was of course always reluctant to wear the full suit at all. He DID meet with director Brett Ratner in 2004 when Ratner was attached to Superman: Flyby, a previous iteration of what later became Superman Returns -- Welling talked about that, himself. But there is still no evidence that Welling was ever *officially* offered the role. The irony is of course that Smallville remained phenomenally successful for Warner Bros. (some say one of their most successful TV series, ever) and yes, continues to have a well-loved legacy that is arguably greater than the last few Superman feature films. I love Welling and Rosenbaum in those roles, but most indications are that they will never play them again, at least not on the big screen. Both of them have come around to appreciating the legacy lately, of course.
But anyway...I guess we should get back to...THE FLASH!
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22 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
Trailer was trippy/cool but gives away way too much.
Probably true -- but to be fair, no one really knows this, unless they've seen the movie already. Trailers are often calculated to generate moments of anticipation...they don't promise to correlate to the way the final film's narrative actually plays out.
1 hour ago, Factcheck said:If some reports are true, then it seems like Marvel Studios may delay The Kang Dynasty by one year. What's the point of introducing Kang this far away if we are going to see him as big bad in 2026? No wonder why MCU is losing its audience.
Did you forget that Thanos first appeared at the end of The Avengers in 2012...and was not featured as a full-on villain until 2018? That's a looong birth for a franchise, relatively. And anyway, this Ant-Man Kang may not even be *the* same Kang that will feature in Kang Dynasty...just as Loki's Kang was not this same guy, either.
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4 hours ago, Nikostar said:
Really happy for this film success after after the awful DS2 and Thor4. It will be very interesting how they will introduce the new Black Panther in the 3rd film. Please let Ryan direct.
Uh...why wouldn't Shuri remain the Black Panther for a bit? The other possibility that's introduced in this movie won't be ready for MCU prime time for at least 20 years...unless, of course, they just abandon all sense like THOR4 did, and say it's OK to bring toddlers in to save the universe...despite the threat of eternal damnation from a demi-god!
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17 hours ago, Sheldon Cr said:
I can see it being an instant flop. As there are petitions online to remove that fool. It cost nearly 250Mil. Imagine if it opens to 30m or less. I'd do the slight expensive Crow Technology thats vastly been improved on nowadays and digitally replace him.. Doing reshoots when necessary.
Petitions usually don't have much correlation to who actually shows up at the Box Office/or who watches on a streaming network. And Ezra plays at least two main roles in the film...and even that is only what's been barely publicly revealed so far. There's more behind the facade... Miller's transgressions over the past year are numerous and notable, but at least a couple of them are not fully proven to be true. They may be a troubled individual, but they aren't a murderer, and unless they become one, I can't see Warner Bros. changing aim to release the movie. They're going to put it out there and see if it sticks. It apparently has enough other valuable elements in it that have gone over extremely well with test audiences.
14 hours ago, Sheldon Cr said:Brother JWR if they don't replace Miller I hope it truly is a flaming disaster. Though I really wanted to see the Return of Micheal Keaton as Batman .. The cool thing is , Im sure he'll be popping up in other DC projects besides Flash. So I will see one of my favorite Batmans on the screen again at some point.
That was the previous plan, for Keaton to recur in multiple movies. But the plans seem to have changed. All indications (Aquabro 2 reshoot cuts), events (Batgirl cancellation), and WBD David Zaslav rhetoric ("There won't be four Batmans") seem to be that Keaton's planned ongoing DC gig will now not materialize (sad, as I'm a fan, too). My bet is that it's one and done for Keaton.
All due respect brother Sheldon, but it was time for Cavill 'et al' to go. If Cavill fans were really in the tens of millions of active box office supporters, they would have pushed Black Adam over the $500-$600 mil. hurdle, where it would have at least looked respectable...and may have generated some possibility for Cavill to remain. But it couldn't even reach $400 mil. WW. And since D. Johnson insisted on going around his studio partners (Hamada) and so heavily hyping Cavill's return as a promotional part of Black Adam, the movie's failure takes any chance Cavill had to stay down with it.
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Gosh darnit @excel1, much to my own surprise, I really am coming around to your point of view on many topics, lately!
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It's all buzz and assumption lately with the trades (except for Borys Kit at THR, who seems to have the only genuine connection to studio/Gunn insiders). On Wonder Woman, my guess is that someone misinterpreted "No plans for WW3 in the near future since Jenkins walked" as "No plans for Wonder Woman" which...if you listened to Zaslav's statements last year and of course Gunn... does not match up with their priorities whatsoever (which is focusing on the "big three").
I expect Gunn/Safran to formally announce some plans as early as next week, but definitely sometime this month. They won't be able to keep things really quiet much longer.
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Marvel needs to send Simu Liu on a apology tour across China.
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Guaranteed that Reynolds will throw-in a last-minute joke about current superhero movie fatigue...and of course it has a strong chance of still being topical, since there's almost no other product in this genre emerging on the big screen before Deadpool, right? The only other real question is...which Professor X will we be seeing? Or will it be a new one? 🤩 (It's time, folks...)