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DM3 is almost flat from last Friday. 163K versus 160K.
May have a sub -5% drop from last weekend.
Drops for family films look very solid this weekend.
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As someone who attends several film festivals every year and gets to see indie and artsy films, Mother! is such a pretentious film and a failed attempt to make a smart film about religious and social themes.
The audience in Venice, who are not popcorn audience at all, booed the hell out of the film.
It's not that the film is a complex thinker that appeals to elite audiences. Rather, it is a vulgar piece of mess that thinks it's smart but its not.
I like Lawrence but she was so meh in the film imo, it's such a passive role and she reacts all the time and her character has no development - very thinly written.
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Watched this as Venice.
One of the most pretentious films I've ever seen. And this is coming from someone who watches so many art/indie films per year at film festivals.
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Japan Yearly Box Office
2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002Rows: #1–100, #101–126Rank Movie Title Distributor Gross Release 1 Beauty and the Beast (2017) Disney $110,780,493 4/21 2 Despicable Me 3 UPI $61,865,197 7/21 3 Detective Conan: Crimson Love Letter Toho $60,119,489 4/15 4 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales Disney $59,500,772 7/1 5 Moana Disney $45,915,441 3/10 6 Sing UPI $43,705,150 3/17 7 Doraemon: Great Adventure in the Antarctic Toho $38,475,150 3/4 8 La La Land Pony $38,116,791 2/24 9 The Fate of the Furious UPI $35,613,959 4/28 10 Gintama WB $33,269,878 7/15 11 Pokémon the Movie 20: I Choose You! Toho $30,024,522 7/14 12 I Want to Eat Your Pancreas (Kimi no suizô wo tabetai) Toho $28,308,665 7/29 13 Mary and the Witch's Flower Toho $27,642,406 7/8 14 Spider-Man: Homecoming Sony $24,106,276 8/11 15 Confession of Murder (2017) WB $20,211,045 6/10 16 Mumon: The Land of Stealth (Shinobi no kuni) Toho $17,952,505 7/1 17 Hirugao: Love Affairs in the Afternoon Toho $17,896,717 6/10 18 Sword Art Online: Ordinal Scale Aniplex $17,363,392 2/18 -
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3 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:
You know what's the difference though? That WW fans did have the right to constantly talk about WW because it was indeed a very intresting and rare for it's genre run.
On the contrary, we are talking about SMH every week because it had a good run that some people are trying to make it seem as amazing.
Well that's not surprising given how much people hate Illumination here. I bet that there would have been pages dedicated when Zootopia or Dory crossed the mark..
100% agree. That's unfortunate because it offers an incomplete picture of the real box office success stories and smash hits of 2017.
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Just now, WrathOfHan said:
Nobody's talking about DM3 because not many people on here are Illumination fans and the film underperformed domestically.
True, that doesn't take away from the fact that DM3, and the DM franchise in general, broke 4 different all-time box office records this year and yet wonder woman and SMH are all what people are talking about.
And domestic is just part of the picture, worldwide is the overall gross and even if a film underperforms domestically, it can't break records unless its OS run is incredible.
DM3 is actually the only animated film to ever cross 1B without crossing 300m domestically.
It's just that the focus is general is on Superhero + domestic. But the big picture is wider than that.
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1 hour ago, FantasticBeasts said:
Can SMH die already? Nothing against the film but certain fans are sooo annoying. It's like we have had the same discussion a million times. You know what? There are far more intresting stories to discuss this year so please stop bringing it back all the time. Yeah it did well, yeah congrats for it. But there isn't really anything more to be added in the conversation.
IT could have ended it's run after this weekend and still it would have been a way bigger story than SMH.
The week DM3 crossed 1 Billion worldwide, literally no one was talking about it here as a massive achievement for a franchise of any type and for an animated film and for a series like Despicable Me that broke huge, all-time box office records despite now being a time where exchange rates are not favorable. SMH and Wonder Woman were just being discussed over and over and over.
And now IT comes and we're getting the superhero discussion again.
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Wit 15.4m euro to date, DM3 has officially passed the lifetime total of Finding Dory in Italy in 25 days!
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United Kingdom Box Office
September 8–10, 2017
(US $1 = 0.7579 British Pound Sterling)< Prev Wk Currency: Next Wk > TW LW Movie Studio Weekend Gross Change Theaters Change / Avg. Gross-to-Date Week 1 N It WB $13,197,576 - 606 - $21,778 $13,197,576 1 2 1 American Made UPI $882,420 -29.6% 490 -66 $1,801 $5,706,343 3 3 2 Dunkirk WB $830,499 -31.5% 502 -43 $1,654 $72,630,887 8 4 3 The Emoji Movie Sony $724,985 -22.1% 628 +52 $1,154 $17,152,017 6 5 4 The Hitman's Bodyguard Lions Gate $639,842 -31.2% 442 -65 $1,448 $8,707,377 4 6 N Wind River STX $577,779 - 163 - $3,545 $577,779 1 7 7 Despicable Me 3 UPI $499,047 -25.2% 490 -39 $1,018 $60,749,865 11 8 5 Logan Lucky StCanal $478,354 -41.6% 494 -38 $968 $3,719,381 3 10 9 The Limehouse Golem Lions Gate $313,793 -34.8% 357 +80 $879 $1,191,403 2 11 8 Detroit E1 $302,085 -52.5% 414 -75 $730 $3,014,949 3 12 10 Girls Trip UPI $229,915 -34.8% 206 -49 $1,116 $11,236,426 7 13 6 Annabelle: Creation WB $216,596 -70.8% 344 -83 $630 $10,659,741 5 14 14 Cars 3 Disney $215,627 -8.2% n/a - n/a $14,758,172 9 -
Looks like Despicable Me 4 is happening!
Great new interview with Meledandri about the genius of Illumination's box office worldwide success:
BLOOMBERG:
After Comcast Corp.’s Universal Pictures acquired DreamWorks Animationlast year, executives there immediately began talking about Chris Meledandri taking on an expanded role, giving the “Minions” master responsibility for “Shrek” and “Kung Fu Panda,” too.
For many studio chiefs, it would have been a dream job, the kind of dual-management role that creative guru John Lasseter plays at both Pixar and Walt Disney Animation. But Meledandri, who is 58, politely declined, choosing instead to consult at DreamWorks and spend the bulk of his time at Illumination Entertainment, the animation studio he co-founded with Universal 10 years ago.
As Hollywood reflects on the worst summer box office in a decade, Meledandri’s decision to stay focused looks smart. His “Despicable Me 3,” released in June, was one of the summer’s few big winners, passing the $1 billion mark worldwide last Friday. As a whole, the four-film “Despicable Me” franchise now ranks ahead of “Shrek” as the top-grossing animated film series off all time. Two of the pictures are the first and second most-profitable movies in Universal’s 105-year history.
“Chris is one the great storytellers of our time,” said Jeffrey Katzenberg, the DreamWorks co-founder who is now starting his own production company focused on short-form video. Meledandri has a “genius for creating deeply memorable and insanely hysterically funny characters,” such as the Minions and Scrat from “Ice Age,” he said.Family Fun
Meledandri’s hits, including the “Ice Age” series he worked on for 21st Century Fox Inc. and last year’s “The Secret Life of Pets,” an $875 million hit for Universal, have charmed their way into popular culture, with characters like the lovable super villain Gru and his squeaky, yellow henchmen the Minions popping up on everything from backpacks to theme-park rides.
In person, Meledandri speaks softly and deliberately, as if contemplating every word. Laughs are few. And he’s dead serious when he says he wants to build the Illumination brand into one that stands for family fun. His mission, he said, is simple: “To make you feel good in a world where so many things don’t.”
In Hollywood, Meledandri is known for making films with relatively modest budgets, $75 million on average, half or less than what other studios typically spend for would-be blockbusters. Illumination’s animators work in Paris, where the technical schools are good and competition for skilled workers less intense. His films benefit from the marketing machine of Comcast, which enables Illumination characters to make guest appearances on NBC productions from “The Tonight Show” to the Super Bowl -- free “real estate,” Meledandri called it.
Sneakers, Cartoons
There’s another secret to Illumination’s success, he said: 100 people at the company working on content that promotes the films. Meledandri, dressed in jeans and a black blazer, walked visitors through Illumination’s loft-like offices in Santa Monica, California, 20 miles from the Universal lot. There are display cases in the lobby filled with Minions merchandise. On one wall are storyboards for weekly cartoons that appeared on Twitter.com before the release of “Despicable Me 3.” On another wall were drawings for Minions-themed Puma sneakers, designer apparel and a theme-park attraction in Beijing.
Meledandri sat down to screen a music video from Pharrell Williams, whose song “Happy” from 2013’s “Despicable Me 2” hit No. 1 in 30 countries. Meledandri tapped his feet as Williams appeared on screen, marching on the street near Illumination’s headquarters. The video for “Yellow Light,” a song from “Despicable Me 3,” has 2.1 million views on Youtube.com.
Movie industry colleagues told Meledandri when he started Illumination that he’d never be able to build a long-term business in animation. Many are still surprised, he said, to find out that his 2015 film “Minions” is the second-highest grossing animated picture of all-time, behind only Disney’s “Frozen.” “Despicable Me 3” has taken in almost three times as much as Pixar’s “Cars 3,” which also came out in June.
“The shadow of Disney is so large and looms so powerful that it’s shocking when we go head to head with them and we do beat them,” Meledandri said. He credited his films’ consistency and “populist” appeal.
Frozen Out
Disney, of course, remains the standard-bearer, and its Pixar unit pioneered digital animation and continues to innovate in the format. Since the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences established an Oscar for best animated film in 2001, Disney and Pixar have gotten the award 11 times. Meledandri was nominated only once, in 2013 for “Despicable Me 2,” and lost to “Frozen.”
“Despicable Me 3” did fall 23 percent short of its predecessor, “Minions,” in the North American box office, though it’s done better overseas. The 2015 edition of the franchise ended up with a global total of $1.16 billion. That trend -- waning interest in sequels in the U.S., with foreign audiences still packing theaters -- was evident in many of the summer’s big releases, including “Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales” and “Transformers: The Last Knight.”
More ‘Despicable’
Unless studios are adding something new or fresh, “American audiences are deserting three-quels,” said Jeff Bock, senior media analyst at Exhibitor Relations.
Hollywood’s dependence on franchises with familiar characters can be limiting, said Meledandri, who has “Minions 2,” “Sing 2” and “Secret Life of Pets 2” in the works. “It’s this enormous focus on event films and making fewer but bigger films with that comes a certain amount of restriction,” he said.
That doesn’t apply to “Despicable Me 4,” which is also in development, he said.
“We have a fantastic story,” he said. “We’re not running out of steam so far.”
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6 minutes ago, peludo said:
I have that list somewhere. I will post it if I find it
Oh please do, would be awesome to look at it!
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26 minutes ago, Asyulus said:
Where's your analysis?
Coming this weekend, got caught up with a lot of work
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14 minutes ago, peludo said:
If we make the all time OS-China list we can obtain extremely different results
That would be a very fun exercise actually!
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11 minutes ago, UserHN said:
Since Frozen, Walt Disney Animation only has 3 films that were released in Japan: Big Hero 6 ($77 million), Zootopia ($70 million), and Moana ($46 million). After BH6, there are only 2 films, which are Zootopia and Moana. So among the Walt Disney Animation releases, DM3 will only outgross Moana. I won't consider that as an Illumination win over Walt Disney Animation. You can't just exclude Zootopia because, as I've said, since BH6, Walt Disney Animation only released 2 films. I think for now, Walt Disney Animation has the upper hand in Japan over Illumination. DM3 will be Illumination's biggest Japan grosser, but even that can't touch BH6 and Zootopia.
Maybe, but Illumination is in a much stronger position than Pixar there now. Second to WDAS but above Pixar.
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1 hour ago, Johnny Tran said:
Even if the series has started to decline we are talking about 1.2 billion worldwide. How many movies will beat that this year? 2?
In fact, while WB and Disney are killing it domestically, Universal is by far the only studio with 2 movies grossing 1B worldwide each this year (Fast and DM3)
Universal is, by a big margin, the leader internationally with huge OS grosses. They know OS markets so well and their movies hit big there.
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42 minutes ago, UserHN said:
I think you are mistaken. DM3 still has not crossed Zootopia's numbers.
Correct, DM3 by the end of its run will have passed every single Pixar and Walt Disney animated film in the past few years (since after BH6 and until now) except Zootopia in 2016. Illumination is as strong, or even stronger, than Pixar now in that market as per Corpse (Japanese box office expert).
DESPICABLE ME III | 770.2 M overseas ● 1034.8 M worldwide
in International Box Office
Posted · Edited by MinaTakla
Here’s my weekly analysis:
Excluding China, DM3 is now at almost 600m OS (+150 in China). In comparison, Fast and Furious 8 scored 616m by the end of its run OS minus China. DM3 can end up matching or exceeding Fast 8 overseas excluding China.
It is now only 2.1% behind Minions at the exact point in release, in the same markets and without even factoring in ER which was in Minions’ favor.
Overseas Results:
Minions: $764.36 million OS so far
(in exact same point of release as DM3 is now. This figure is in 2015 exchange rate and not adjusted to 2017 ER)
DM3: $748.3 million OS so far (2 % below Minions OS total at the same point in run)
(latest figure after studio actuals came in. This figure in exact same point of release as Minions. Figures are in 2017 ER and not adjusted to match 2015 ER of Minions)
*Above grosses calculated as per numbers available on Box Office Mojo.
Mathematically most likely case based on DM3 vs Minions comps: Using Peludo’s 779m adjusted total for Minions, DM3 can then end up with 98% x 779 = 763m OS. Combined with around 264 domestic, that gives us: 264 + 763 = 1,027 Billion WW.
Worst case: if the film drops 50% week-on-week every week from now on, it gets to 1,022 Billion WW.
Realistic case: So far, the film has been dropping around 40% drop on average every week. If it keeps this pace, this gives it around 1,026 Billion WW.