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  1. 1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said:

    #1: A2 - 300k (-24%, usually actuals are higher than estimates)

    #2: ??? - 200k (-21%, fine)

    #3: PiB2 - 125k (-2%, seriously?)

    Avatar reaching 9M already this weekend - a first since SW7. 10th best 8th WE and 2nd biggest movie ever after Sunday - after a €4M+ WE...

    (Also it will have passed Titanic's first run already to become the biggest single run ever at the BO) 

     

    #1 Titanic €126,22M

    #2 Avatar 2 €122M

    #3 Avatar 1 €119,19M

     

    http://www.insidekino.com/DJahr/DAlltime100bo.htm

     

    34 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

     

    Doesnt surprise me. This movie gets talked about all the time around me, mostly from my generation (20-30 years of age) who grew up with Shrek. WOM is amazing.

    I've seen it at last on Monday and it really was great - and actually quite scary 👀

     

    I hope (and guess) 2M will happen seeing that only 300k are leftleft (I just saw that it opened to 120k so it'll have a bigger 7th WE than its OW and a x14+ multipler! 

  2. On 1/27/2023 at 9:43 AM, Aristis said:

    Thursday

     

    #1 Avatar 2 30k (-25%) [€410k]

    #2 ??? 12k [€95k]

    #3 Pathaan 6,5k [€100k]

    #4 Babylon 6k (-14%) [€60k]

    #5 Caveman 6k [€55k]

    Thursday

     

    #1 Avatar 2 27k (-10%) [€375k]

    #2 ??? 16,5k (+38%) [€125k]

    #3 PiB2 10k (at least +70%) [€80k]

    #4 Plane 8,1k [€75k]

    #5 Otto 7k [€67k]

     

    https://www.blickpunktfilm.de/kino/kinocharts-deutschland-trend-die-ewige-nummer-zwei-b8622199d094899af6f11b0419214e55

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  3. Seems like the midweek dropped very little (~95k vs 103k) to reach 8,7M (€118M) until Wednesday. This weekend will see it pass the first Avatar easily (in €) - though it already passed that ones first release. 

     

    Avatar 1 - 10,897M / €110,15M

    SE (10) - 396k / €4,4M

    RR (22) - 380k / ~€4,4M-€4,6M

     Total - 11,693M* / 119,19M

     

    *it seems to have ~20k more than what it should but I don't know where that comes from. 

     

    https://www.insidekino.de/Y/DuellJC.htm

    https://www.insidekino.de/DJahr/DAlltime100bo.htm

    https://www.insidekino.de/DJahr/D2009.htm

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  4. On 1/20/2023 at 9:41 AM, Aristis said:

    Thursday

     

    #1 Avatar 2 40k (-33%) [€570k]

    #2 M3gan 8k (-50%) [€75k]

    #3 Babylon 7k [€75k]

    #4 Puss in Boots 2 6,5k (-13%) [€55k]

    #5 Shotgun Wedding 5,5k [€50k]

    Thursday

     

    #1 Avatar 2 30k (-25%) [€410k]

    #2 ??? 12k [€95k]

    #3 Pathaan 6,5k [€100k]

    #4 Babylon 6k (-14%) [€60k]

    #5 Caveman 6k [€55k]

     

    https://www.blickpunktfilm.de/kino/kinocharts-deutschland-trend-avatar-jagt-avatar-3c1accc9297444a7349619977eb073c1

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  5. 15 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

    Will we even reach 10 pages this weekend? Sad.

     

    Thankfully, theres a tried and tested method to avoid such a scenario.

     

    *Clears throat*

     

    "That is an ugly ass Thursday number for Avatar! 650M is dead!"

     

    "Will Avatar even reach 20M this weekend? The weekday numbers are awful!"

     

    "Cinemas are truly dead"

     

    "Day-and-date streaming releases are the future of cinema! Streaming RULES!"

     

    "Compared to other December releases, Avatar 2's multiplier isnt that impressive!"

     

    "MCU is dead. Phase 4 killed it. Phase 5 will flop."

    Maybe something about giants 👀

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  6. On 1/13/2023 at 9:23 AM, Aristis said:

    Thursday

     

    #1 Avatar 2 60k (-70%) [€830k]

    #2 M3gan 16k [€150k]

    #3 Operation Fortune 9k (-61%) [€80k]

    #4 Banshees of Inisherin 8k (?) [€70k]

    #5 Puss in Boots 2 7,5k (-85%) [€62k]

    Thursday

     

    #1 Avatar 2 40k (-33%) [€570k]

    #2 M3gan 8k (-50%) [€75k]

    #3 Babylon 7k [€75k]

    #4 Puss in Boots 2 6,5k (-13%) [€55k]

    #5 Shotgun Wedding 5,5k [€50k]

     

    https://www.blickpunktfilm.de/kino/kinocharts-deutschland-trend-alles-avatar-alles-klar-ccf39bb924743b7599b30c151cd09fcc

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  7. On 1/6/2023 at 12:08 PM, Aristis said:

    Thursday

     

    #1 Avatar 2 200k (-50%) [€2,6M]

    #2 Puss in Boots 2 50k (-40%) [€400k]

    #3 Operation Fortune 23k [€215k]

    #4 Hotzenplotz 18k (-51%) [€130k]

    #5 Oskars Kleid 16k (-45%) [€140k]

    Thursday

     

    #1 Avatar 2 60k (-70%) [€830k]

    #2 M3gan 16 k [€150k]

    #3 Operation Fortune 9k (-61%) [€80k]

    #4 Banshees of Inisherin 8k (?) [€70k]

    #5 Puss in Boots 2 7,5k (-85%) [€62k]

     

    https://www.blickpunktfilm.de/kino/kinocharts-deutschland-trend-weiter-topzahlen-fuer-avatar-the-way-of-water-f4f5194bb7349646fd01163c3f604859

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  8. 4 hours ago, kayumanggi said:

     

    "Lucky for Cameron and Disney, which owns the rights after acquiring 20th Century Fox in 2019, the long-delayed sequel has generated $1.748 billion globally to stand as the seventh-highest grossing release in history. It looks to end its theatrical run with $1.825 billion to $2 billion, placing the tentpole firmly in the black."

     

    Do I understand this right: She believes, after acknowledging it already did $1,75B, it could do as few as $75M more (and $250M at most)? 😶

  9.  

     

    AVATAR 1

    AVATAR 2

    1st WE

    893

    ---

    893

    1.157

    ---

    1.332

    midweek

    594

    ---

    1.487

    481

    ---

    1.813

     

    1.487

    ---

     

    1.638

    ---

     

    2nd WE

    857

    -4%

    2.344

    735

    -36%

    2.548

    midweek

    850

    +43%

    3.194

    1.101

    +129%

    3.649

     

    1.707

    +15%

     

    1.836

    +12%

     

    3rd WE

    740

    -14%

    3.934

    1.067

    +45%

    4.716

    midweek

    496

    -42%

    4.430

    661

    -40%

    5.377

     

    1.236

    -28%

     

    1.728

    -6%

     

    4th WE

    625

    -16%

    5.055

    1.133

    +6%

    6.510

    midweek

    212

    -57%

    5.267

    235*

    -64%

    6.745*

     

    837

    -32%

     

    1.368

    -21%

     

    5th WE

    598

    -4%

    5.865

         

    midweek

    219

    +3%

    6.084

         
     

    817

    -2%

           

    6th WE

    593

    -1%

    6.677

         

    midweek

    189

    -14%

    6.866

         
     

    782

    -4%

           

    7th WE

    528

    -11%

    7.394

         

    midweek

    219

    16%

    7.613

         
     

    747

    -4%

           

    8th WE

    547

    +4%

    8.160

         

    midweek

    149

    -32%

    8.309

         
     

    696

    -7%

           

    9th WE

    398

    -27%

    8.707

         

    midweek

    190

    28%

    8.897

         
     

    588

    -16%

           

    10th WE

    370

    -7%

    9.267

         

    midweek

    99

    -48%

    9.366

         
     

    469

    -20%

           

    Total

    12,2x

    12,2x

    10.897M**

    8,21x***

    7,13x

    9.500M

    *following RO midweek

    **only 1st release

    ***multipler from 4-day and 5-day OW respectively

     

    A2s lead grew from its low point, 204k after 2nd WE, to 1,455M after 4th WE (and maybe around 1,550M after 5th WE if it dropped 40% to 675k). The lead should start to shrink over the course of the 5th weekdays.

     

    https://www.insidekino.com/Y/DuellJC.htm

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  10. 5 hours ago, Issac Newton said:

    Numero

     

    Avatar: The Way of Water is now the 6th highest-grossing film of all time in New Zealand taking NZ$2.28M in its fourth weekend, Avatar: The Way of Water's cume is now at NZ$14.21M.

     

    Puss in Boots still in 2nd with NZ$711K bringing the cume to NZ$1.97M.

     

    A Man Called Otto in 3rd with NZ$271K and its cume at NZ$468K.

    That is huge! So it passed Titanic and will veeery shortly reach the 2nd place. Following RO it would reach lc19,5M+ 😶

     

    1 17.844.560 Avatar
    2 14.632.603 Star Wars VII
    FLnz_small.png 14.609.037 Der Herr der Ringe I
    4 14.480.054 Avengers 4
    5 14.221.805 Top Gun Maverick
    6 14.010.448 Titanic

    https://www.insidekino.de/BO/NZ2022.htm

     

    So I guess #1 is locked? 

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  11. 4 hours ago, lab276 said:

    This is good to see:

     

    Die Top Ten (das beste Wochenende seit genau drei Jahren) steigerten sich gegenüber der Vorwoche um etwa 20 %, gegenüber dem gleichen Wochenende 01/2022 als Spider-Man - No Way Home mit 373.990 Besuchern am vierten Wochenende die Charts angeführt hat, ging es um ca. 130 % rauf.  

     

    "The top ten (the best weekend in exactly three years) increased by about 20% compared to the previous week, compared to the same weekend 01/2022 when Spider-Man - No Way Home topped the charts with 373,990 visitors on the fourth weekend, it went up by about 130%."

    This might be one of the nicest things coming out of the weekend. It's not just Avatar 2 but quite a few other movies doing great numbers now. 

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  12. 1 hour ago, upriser7 said:

    I could only find Rogue One, NWH numbers. Rogue One did 750K admissions on 4th weekend and went onto do another 2.1M admissions (2.8 x 750K) for rest of the run . NWH did 375K on 4th weekend and went onto do another 1.3M admissions (3.5 x 375K) for rest of the run.

     

    A2 has done 1.13M admissions in its 4th weekend and cumulative 6.5M admissions so far...if you use Rogue One multiplier, then A2 should do another 3.15M admissions for rest of the run. If you use NWH multiplier, then NWH should do another 3.95M admissions for rest of the run. Taking average of both, you'd get around 3.55M additional admissions for rest of the run, which would mean 10M total admissions. Even using Rogue One multiplier would get you to 9.6M final admissions.  Wouldn't 9.6M admissions mean an all time record gross wise (in Euros) ?

    I think you might have slipped a week? RO had 317k admissions in its 4th WE and did 495k after that, 1,56x the WE. Same for Avatar 2 would be 8,27M total. 

     

    https://www.insidekino.de/DTop10/17/DTopJanuar2017.htm

     

    For NWH, I didn't remember it had such great late legs (I guess because of covid again?) but another 4M would be huge.

     

    9M is probably locked at this point - next WE, dropping like 40% even, should be 7,4M+ and after the legs it has shown already it shouldn't crumble after the holidays - even if it was very much pushed by them and not itself. 

     

    And 9,6M would indeed dethrone Titanic. Its ATP might drop a little but 9,5M should be enough I guess.

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  13. 10 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

     

    I dont think so because Germany was a thriving cinema market in the 60s up to the early 2000s. The negative development only really began in the early 2010s with 2012 beeing the last really great year iirc.

    But still on a somewhat lesser scale than other markets like France or Great Britain (at least in newer times, I can't really find older yearly admissions data for most countries). I mean, there must be any answer. Germany had a huge contribution to film as an art form in the early 1900s but much was lost in the following years. So maybe it's a more indirect influence, like talented people leaving - or maybe you're right and it has nothing to do with that. I would love to read something scientific about that but I'm yet to find useful texts. 

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