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  1. Last WE drive ins in Germany reached 100k+ admissions. With the first federal states opening cinemas on May 18th, that might have been the peak already, after many weeks of huge increases. On the InsideKino forum the rough numbers of admissions in drive ins have been shared, some of them are: Joker 32k admissions (3rd biggest release) BB3 22k (5th) F3 18k (6th) Bohemian 12k (8th) http://www.forum.insidekino.de/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5078 As for Joker that means ~4,17M total and that it is the biggest DC movie in Germany (topping Superman (79) 4,15M)
  2. China did better, cause they have more options as the whole systems and peoples rights are different. Still, would they have been more open about the issue and wouldn't people be afraid to have bad news for higher authorities, things might be different - though western countries may still be hit hard... People would not have accepted full lockdowns a month ago. And I'll say it for the third time: It would have been great to have had a response more like SK, but I don't know if that would have been possible. There would have been the need of testing and some shut downs very early on - which people here maybe would not have accepted. SK is different from Europe even though they are a democracy too. They are eastern which means less individualism (sometimes not that bad) and had an outbreak not that long ago... ... Germany acted awfully when it comes to prevention which is why acting like SK became impossible. All that I want say is that when the outbreak occurred they finally didn't do that bad and there actions were guided by science too. As I said: The failure in prevention made it impossible to act like SK. They had small clusters whereas in Germany and Europe it's already spread. I think flattening the curve is the only possibility now. And for the economy it would have been much better to have a SK response. They still have shops open. Flattening the curve is probably the worst you can do for your economy as it means a long shut down or at least closure of unesential business. As soon as you reopen big, the curve won't be flattened. So, to sum up: Suppression would have been the best way. I think that would have required better prevention though. Most leaders failed at that, not taking the virus seriously just soon enough, so maybe we just have to live with flattening the curve (which probably kills less than 1% of the population given the death rate with good health care, but is still more than would haven been necessary).
  3. The point is though that measueres like this haven't been taken since at least WW2. Europe isn't like China were you can do things like that out of a sudden. Those measures would have been unthinkable a few weeks ago. People slowly learned how bad of a threat this crisis is and that these things have to be done. Of course that is an disadvantage compared to a totalitarian dictatorship where people accept things. So ultimately it is about the european love of freedom. You assume too much in your comment. I don't hate communism (even though sadly I don't think it works). I just don't like the chinese system. The thing is, we will never know how big this obvious superiority of chinese response really was... And, as I said, things are easy if you can do anything. But as you seem to be a fan of the chinese system this discussion is probably useless. I never said Germany our Europe (which is hard to see as one) had a great response, especially in prevention. And I said that Germany should have acted more like South Korea. But even if that country is a democracy it's not really comparable to Europe (there have been many discussions about differences between western and eastern people here). Europe could and should have done better but people just didn't realize soon enough how bad this is. Next time hopefully it'll be better. If the curve is flattened and the health care system won't be overwhelmed more of the vulnerable will be saved than if nothing happened. And as I said, it would have been better to stop the outbreak rather than to slow it. But they probably where too late for this and therefore we must live with flatten the curve.
  4. The goal always was to slow down the outbreak so that the health care won't be overwhelmed. And as numbers grew bigger more and more parts of the daily life have been shut down. It still is a mitigation policy and not suppression, so either 70% of the population will be infected in the next years or there will be a vaccination. I would have prefered to do it more like SK but the government really was far too sleepy for that to happen - as I said, they did awful in prevention and the could have done better facing the outbreak. I don't think her handeling of this crisis is in any way comparable to BJ. When they had to shut down they did. It just isn't possible to do things as fast as in China. He didn't want to shut down things until he was forced to. These lock downs are temporary. Freedom ends where someone elses begins. People can be free again when this is over, but most here think it's the right thing to safe the vulnerable. I think doctors being "silenced" (and especially ignored) here is very different from there. Things are by no means perfect here. Some may be better elsewhere. But europe has some advantages and I'm happy to live here. As a side note, what I find funny is that things China was accused for a few months or weeks ago (drones monitoring crowds, lockdowns...) are done here now. Doesn't change my post though.
  5. Merkels 70% thing was just about R0 getting <1 if 2/3 of the population got it and thus are (hopefully) immune. That is what scientists told her and not what she wanted for Germany. Without vaccination that's what happens over time. Germany didn't do good in prevention. But I think since the outbreak really hit us the government did rather well, though I'm sure we're lucky not to be hit too hard. And I really don't think living in chinese conditions would do anything better really. That's a big part of what led to this crisis - covering up things, silencing doctors and critics (and that isn't meant to be an excuse for the awful corona prevention policy). Not everythings perfect living in a european country but there shouldn't be a doubt that it's better living here than in a totalitarian country.
  6. But most respiratory diseases don't have such a broad spread, right? So trying to reach herd immunity would cause many of those cases.
  7. In this whole herd-immunity discussion: What is about possible long term consequences for health? I heard about the possibility of lung fibrosis and reduced lung volume even among "mild" cases (not clear yet wether permanent or not). Or I've read about the virus attacking the testicles and therefore maybe leading to infertility. (I don't know where I've read both of this and my questions are more about the fundamental lack of talk about possible consequences) So does anyone know about such consequences and why the aren't addressed? And how much of a threat the are?
  8. According to this article the ICU with ventilators are up to 30,000 from 20,000 in Germany now. There are 7,000 hospitalized Corona patients, among them 1,500 in ICU of which 1,100 need ventilators. https://www.focus.de/gesundheit/news/coronavirus-news-trump-befuerchtet-100-000-tote-in-den-usa-nrw-plant-epidemie-gesetz_id_11576018.html And the "cure not worse than the virus"-calls are increasing here too. The government tries stop them with statements that the measures are not to be discussed until 20 April... https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/diskussion-massnahmen-corona-101.html
  9. I read that it isn't strictly determined, some do and some don't. Doesn't make it easier, especially because I didn't find any clue which is the prevalent way...
  10. So it seems german government wants to change its Testing policy to be a bit more like South Korea (which they are pretty late for...). It's annoying we don't have the numbers of tests done here but it seems that at the moment Germany does (or at least is capable of) 300,000 to 500,00 per week. Until mid-April 100,000 per day shall be possible and 200,000 per day until the end of April. According to the german health minister atm we test to confirm but we shall test to be ahead.
  11. So there are only two cinemas still playing in Germany, two drive-ins that had 1,892 admissions combined last WE. I wonder why there aren't more drive-ins still holding shows...
  12. Do you have a different calendar? Is it possible you confused the months or is it in future perfect?
  13. So as Taruseth expected, the 1st Trend was too optimistic... Känguru 85k (-74%/-77%) Invisible 40k (-60%) My Spy 37,5k (i.P.) Onward 35k (-78%/-81%) Lady Business 27,5k (i.P.)
  14. 1st Trend: With the uncertainity this might be pessimistic (or not): Känguru 110k (-66%/-71%) Onward 50k (-68%/-73%) Everything else below 50k
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