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Posts posted by Brainiac5
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15 hours ago, Zakiyyah6 said:
People make up threshold's for the DC films. It's been happening sense the beginning. Every DC film could have made 1 billion and people would have found a way to downplay that. Meanwhile Thor Ragnarok is the biggest hit ever at 854mil. I loathe Batman v Superman and find Suicide Squad and JL to be poor movies but I've never understood this. People talk more favorably about Ant-Man and Wasp's box office numbers than Aquaman's.
The Bar is constantly move everytime DC achieve a great threshold.
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12 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
Lol, it’s not missing 600. If it came out the same week as TFA and did 20m today, then we could talk about missing 600.
13 minutes ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:I can’t see under a 3x multiple.
We have to wait and see
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6 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:
Just seems harsh even compared to RO. Kind of crazy too to consider it’s already down to just half of what TFA grossed on its first Monday. Of course I know that was a week later. If it were to just gross half of TFA after OW though, it would only finish with $560m. Won’t happen, but I’m not sure 700 will either. This weekend will be telling.
560 could be the range it may fall.
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3 minutes ago, Darth Lehnsherr said:
Well the petitions have started....
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6 minutes ago, Lor San Tele said:
But it's the same thing as a video going viral because some dude shoved a Roman candle up his ass and lit it. Sites want clicks and page views, news channels want eyeballs, and they'll run anything that they hope will get that, irrespective of whether it's actually meaningful or important. This includes running every conceivable story about the most popular movie series of all time (domestically).
Welcome to Internet 2017.
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3 minutes ago, Lor San Tele said:
This proves my point.
My point of posting the video was to show some here that it may be a conversation to a good amount of folks.
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44 minutes ago, Lor San Tele said:
The obvious but overlooked thing about IMDB and RT votes is that no one cares except the obsessive diehards (and even then, only a subset of that group). It's not even a tempest in a teapot.
It is literally pointless. Has anyone ever cared about this stuff unless they're trying to win some argument on the internet?
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6 minutes ago, SpiritComix said:
No. It's a good movie, with some GREAT moments, some risky choices, good messages, but also some "not very good" things. Tha'ts why it's very divisive with the fans.
It soars and sink, but it's good.
7.8
I’ll reply to you my rating after my viewing.
I hope those “not very good things “ doesn’t put weight the very good things.
If this film has done what I think it did then I can see why it would be hated.
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2 minutes ago, SpiritComix said:
Interesting story:
So the film is Certifed Fresh Trash?
Ill see tonight which side of the fence I’m on.
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12 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:
JL off 2% from yesterday and 42% week-over-week...
I think all movies that got smashed together in November have really benefited from the chance to breathe the last 2 weeks - it probably hasn't been great for theaters, but it has been great for the box office for all the movies that didn't sky on opening, but have kicked in some nice little legs the past 2 weeks...
JL is having better drops than FB last year at the same point in its run.
-2% for JL
-3.2% for FB
-6.9% for MJ.
Its dailies are also $10000 away from BVS on its 21st day.
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1 minute ago, grey ghost said:
Logan - 90%
WW - 89%
Thor 3 - 88%
GotG 2 - 88%
SMH - 88%
That’s not much further from JL ya’know
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7 minutes ago, Sam said:
He wasn’t referring to JL in his posts. Don’t know how you get that as any type of diss against the movie.
All he did was replying to your comment about how multiplier is the be all end all, and said that no, it’s not, there are many factors that you have to look at.
JL only started to stabilize in drops this Monday (as in following FB/MJ1) and many people has commented on that, using that likely trend to predict its total.
Just because a few people mocking its performance doesn’t mean you have to project it to everyone.
JL stabilized it’s 3rd weeend Which is critical for the film.
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5 minutes ago, Ms Lady Hawk said:
One needn’t account for metrics to form an opinion. He is an individual, not necessarily conforming to what you see as the general public/critic’s opinion. His opinion is that this year’s CBM were mediocre. He is entitled to his opinion as much as critics and other members of the GA.
I even gave JL a 7.5/10 as I felt it Could’ve been much better.
BVS & Cap2 are much better films then anything we got this year imho.
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19 minutes ago, Sam said:
He laid out very sound reasonings a to why you can’t look at numbers or multipliers in a vacuum, yet you dismissed and basically told him to deal with it.
Look I get everything in that message but it can be dismissed as we have no clue to the truth.
I do know JL is having much better reception than BVS and there’s no way to dismiss that.
A low opening Weekend doesn’t mean a film is bad ,However most here explanation will tell you otherwise.
A film can have a bad internal multipier but we don’t know how it’s overall multipier will
be effected by that.
so far there’s nothing in the film drops that says its being badly received.
Now it didn’t do to well against the comps for its first two weeks but things are looking much better 3rd weekend and beyond.
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8 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
And others think it's the best year ever for superhero movies.
Critics and box office kind of back up that claim.
Either way JL doesn't rank high by any metric.
81%
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Just now, TalismanRing said:
Nah. Deal with it.
Well it seems you and have a habit to knock down the films positives and I don’t understand why.
The daily increase/Drops have been very good when comparing to FB.
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12 minutes ago, Barnack said:
You starting to sound like this was some kind of games, with scoring and looser and winners, etc...
No we will obviously not use multiplier has some end of it all without looking at context blindly.
I mean look at those multiplier:
Dark Knight: 3.33
Wonder Woman: 4
Shrek: 6.32
Passenger : 6.71
Hidden Figures: 7.407
Blind Side: 7.52
Girl with a dragoon tattoo: 8.00
Is some giant multiplier simply due to an extremely small opening weekend due to the Christmas day placement for some of those release ? While some others achieved crazy multiplier because they had A+ type cinemascore reception ? Some smaller than other because of the size of the OW and not because of the word of mouth quality ? Or would you rank them like that, audience reception of those movies goes the worst for Dark Knight to the best for Dragon Tattoo ?
We will pick and choose, we will interpret data in the best possible ways, they are not baseball score with us trying to pick a winner.
BvS 1.99x was certainly a tell about it's reception (and that showed on is massive OW drop for it's sequel).
The film is gonna earn a respectable Multiplier,Respect it.
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10 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:
So the new plan is to drag everything down to JL's level to make yourself feel better for JL's failure - commercially and artistically.
No,My opinion is that the CBM’s Of 2017!are mediocre ,Deal with it
......P.S I didn’t like WW.
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2 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:
Blaming TLJ for stuff makes me feel better. LEAVE ME ALONE. -
2 minutes ago, grey ghost said:
Most people agree tha JL was a major improvement from BvS.
That doesn't mean it ranks high among superhero movies this year.
It could have decent legs simply because expectations were so low.
Mediocre is pretty much every CBM this year Imho.
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1 hour ago, Barnack said:
Some are and it is a giant mistake to just use multiplier to look at word of mouth. All multiplier come with an *, release date, 3-4 days weekend, size of the opening, genre and so on.
Dark Knight only did 3.33, if you remove the OW size, the genre, being a sequel, etc... there is really nothing special here, the Boss Baby had a better multiplier.....
One example that make it clear of the mistake at looking at the multiplier alone, is the Hunger Games series:
Total OW Legs Ratio The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 2 $281,723,902.00 $ 102,665,981.00 $179,057,921.00 2.74408 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1 $337,135,885.00 $ 121,897,634.00 $215,238,251.00 2.76573 The Hunger Games: Catching Fire $424,668,047.00 $ 158,074,286.00 $266,593,761.00 2.68651 The Hunger Games $408,010,692.00 $ 152,535,747.00 $255,474,945.00 2.67485 Would you say Part 1 & 2 had the best reception and word of mouth, they have not only the best multiplier but they did so while being farther in the franchise ? Or no, obviously legs of 266m for Catching Fire are clearly the best of the franchise and that was the entry that had the best reception, the bigger multiplier of the MJs are purely due to a smaller opening weekend and less excitement to see it right away at release weekends.
If we are gonna use multipier to determine Reception then let’s use them without having our picks and chooses.
BVS had a 1.99x and many were saying how that shows it’s Reception now JL has a 2.5X+and we have to come up with all reasons as to why that is so.
The film could’ve easily fell off the map but it didn’t ,In fact the Dailies have caught up with BVS and the 4th weekend could be over its 4th weekend.
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13 minutes ago, a2knet said:
JL's legs won't be far behind Thor3.
320 gives Thor3 2.6x and 240 gives JL 2.55x.
245 gives it 2.6
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1 hour ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:
I wonder what cause the OW to crumble. Other than the reception to BVS.
Don’t know but WB need to take the decent to good reception and go from there.
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2 minutes ago, RamblinRed said:
This issue there is that starting at a point 30M less gives you an exponential difference in final result. A 30M difference with a 2.6 multiplier is over 75M in final result.
You have to use that Analogy to every film ever made.
We y’all about Multipliers because they tell us how films are received and there’s no special cases.
AQUAMAN | 813.4 M overseas ● 1148.5 M worldwide
in International Box Office
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Making a Billion is no easy feat not even in todays market.