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Perri enjoyed it a lot
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1 hour ago, Wadey Wilsoney said:
Yup. Saw it. It's not without its issues, but I really liked it.
Will check out the original again later today to see how they compare.
What issues did you have? How do you think critics will react?
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they gave it a positive review
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44 minutes ago, antovolk said:
Kinda surprised Pete liked it
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1 hour ago, Mulder said:
Visuals are good though I can't comment much beyond on that so far. Much better then the awkwardly done knock-off water fight. Still not huge on them making the geishas look robotic when they're meant to be attractive sex-androids more or less.
Yeah, the ones in the anime looked deceptively human, which kinda highteins the sexual fantasizations. I'm not sure if it was feasible to imitate that with how practical their approach was. Maybe they could gone more CGI?
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27 minutes ago, Krissykins said:
Well his review is posted now.
"Flabbergastingly Bad" is the title of the review.
He said it's worse than Fantastic Four and gave it 1 out of 5.
Seems like it was an indication after all, just as I expected
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yeah, no way Robbie. Fantastic Four was horrendous. This is Power Rangers too
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I'm hoping this movie can aid in improving representation of Asians in film with its diverse cast
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He directed the classic film and made it his own, he definitely has authority to speak. I agree he would have insufficient knowledge to speak on the life of Asian-Americans, but I can see his frustration with people invoking his work as just a political gavel, like the role belongs to them.
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3 hours ago, Nova said:
I don't know who it was who said it but someone who has a connection to the movie said it best: they cast Scarjo because they felt that was the best bet to get this film mass exposure i.e. make a shit ton of movie. I wish they'd just stick with because that's 99.9% of why she was cast and stop with the other nonsense....or maybe try to understand why folks were upset. I have stayed out of the discussion of Scarjo's casting for the most part but I think the biggest thing folks were missing is that it's not how the folks over in Japan are feeling about this but rather how do the Japanese Americans feel about this because that's where the majority of the backlash has come from. For Japanese Americans, this was an opportunity to get one of them to be a lead in a major blockbuster. Of course people in Japan aren't going to care. They're represented in their own films over there.
However, this is industry is a business and I understand the reason why Scarjo was cast. However I also wish that these folks would also understand WHY the backlash started. Because this whole "art must be separated from politics" BS is a joke....and I find it ironic that Oshii would bring up politics and what not when Scarjo herself said she took the role because she felt it was important to her as a feminist to be a lead in a major film that's led by a female.
Regardless, it's very hard to separate art from politics. They virtually go hand in hand. You can study a piece of art and know which political time period it came from. A lot of artists actually use art to express their ideas on certain political topics. It's okay if Oshii doesn't want to do that but to act like the arts and politics are separated or were separated is laughable to me.
I dont want to go on with this subject though. I get why Scarjo was cast and I also get why folks were upset.
I think Oshii means to highlight the problem of overindulging so much in the act of politicization that we lose sight of artistic expression; he's not saying that art cannot have political themes, he's shown that time again in his own work, which he would probably understand more than a Japanese-American or any American who is more than unlikely to expound as much on Ghost in the Shell as he can. It baffles him as well because of his vision for the property as an auteur and creator. I can see why he feels people are missing the point. It's strictly his own rebuke of the protest over the reimagining of his work. There's no expectation of him acquiescing, despite him knowing why.
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9 minutes ago, dashrendar44 said:
Yeah, because japanese people don't care about racial politics, skinwashing and politics. So that's why they totally busted a nut when chinese actresses played geishas in a Hollywood movie. Remember Memories Of A Geisha.The real reason is that sweet Hollywood royalities paycheck feels so good so Oshii could care less about political ramifications about the resulting "art" (because there are no matter what art you put out there, whether you admit it or not. Art is political. Period) whoever was cast as lead whether it be Rinko Kinkuchi, Johannsson or Megan Fox. Yeah, Motoko Kusanagi, a japanese cop in a japanese city would choose to look like Scarlett Johannsson without consequences on her daily interactions (And be rest assured, being japanese in a caucasian body is not adressed at all in this movie because that's not the point of the original anime, amarite?). Why is Aramaki played by japanese Takeshi Kitano then if it doesn't matter at all?
(And I won't go into how the movie cast white actors as cyborgs übermenschs transcending the realms of life and conscience while the merely petty mortals are all asian)
The dark and politically incorrect answer, Oshii won't admit is that japanese people secretly envy white people, put them on a pedestal and feel acknowledged when their properties are whitewashed like some badge of coolness pretending they don't care about race while asian american people seeing through that bullshit because they fall prey to that bullshit call on it. Memories Of Geisha outrage proves that japanese people perfectly care about politics and ethnicity when their culture is being mangled by Hollywood casting execs.
There's some element of truth to what you say about Japanese culture. It's an extremely nuanced issue, especially in regards to their real history and not something they consider Otaku or childish. Some of what you say, however, is a wee too presumptious, including specific details in the film.
Oshii has no qualms being blunt. He's directed animations with heavy political themes in the Patlabor series, and he has credibility and authority on this particular issue.
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"What issue could there possibly be with casting her?" Oshii told IGN by e-mail. "The Major is a cyborg and her physical form is an entirely assumed one. The name 'Motoko Kusanagi' and her current body are not her original name and body, so there is no basis for saying that an Asian actress must portray her. Even if her original body (presuming such a thing existed) were a Japanese one, that would still apply."
"In the movies, John Wayne can play Genghis Khan, and Omar Sharif, an Arab, can play Doctor Zhivago, a Slav. It's all just cinematic conventions," he explained. "If that's not allowed, then Darth Vader probably shouldn’t speak English, either. I believe having Scarlett play Motoko was the best possible casting for this movie. I can only sense a political motive from the people opposing it, and I believe artistic expression must be free from politics."
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58 minutes ago, Krissykins said:
Robbie Collin said "it's flabbergastingly bad". His review from The Telegraph will be added soon.
That wasn't actually an indication of what to expect from his review. Seemed more like banter and tongue-in-cheek talk. His review could still be negative regardless
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5 minutes ago, RandomJC said:
That still isn't true. It's just what Internet nerds say in an echo chamber to sound smart. The simple fact is if their were that many failures, you wouldn't see so many adaptations every year. You really think companies will just keep trying to make these things if they kept failing?
That wouldn't explain why we continue to see video game adaptations being pursued by film studios. The source material's popularity and film potential captures the eyes of executives and producers looking for a promising project.
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Michael Pitt looks incredible as Kuze. He'll nail that character. He also looks like Mads here lol. The amount of detail that went into the production is exceptional.
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25 minutes ago, Hatebox said:
If that scene is identical it's a good example of why you shouldn't slavishly copy something for an adaptation.
They aren't exact copies for one because the way the scenes proceed differ slightly and the music is an obvious change. If it works in context of this new story, it works. This scene doesn't show why you shouldn't take images from the source because we don't have the necessary context.
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3 hours ago, RandomJC said:
There has been plenty of success. Lone wolf and Cub, Ichi the Killer, Lady Snowblood. They get lost under the huge mistakes of Attack on Titan.
The failures incredibly outnumber the successes unfortunately . Black Butler, Casshern, Fist of the North Star, Gatchaman. Oh god, Terra Formars. So many to name
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5 hours ago, TalismanRing said:
It's a major movie made by and financed though a major US studio opening int eh US. in less than 4 days. I don't see how geographical elitism plays int it.
I think @Boxofficerules may be on to something. They might to avoid any new whitewashing backlash so close to opening.
He's just saying that they aren't entitled to anything.
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41 minutes ago, antovolk said:
Scenes are identical. Music there in the live action comes across more intense. She looks believable throwing a punch. There's weight behind it as far as I can tell
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1 hour ago, IronJimbo said:
Does anyone even understand what this means... you're going to have to explain what that even means.That sentence echoes a bit of what the Puppet Master conveys to Major at the end of the film
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15 minutes ago, TelemAAchos said:
What a strange digression. "The internet" is both physical and non-physical. Information is stored on servers around the world and sent via massive cables (and not-so-massive cables) along with satellites. However, there's certainly another reality contained by the sum of that information that isn't physical at all.
This. There are certainly tools that operate as conduits for the transmission of data and information, but GitS goes beyond that in discussing the digital space conscienceness can occupy
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And at best that just tenuously applies to GitS because the net is defined to be vast and infinite and permeating all aspects of life, which is hard to pin down to a physical structure
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1 minute ago, Nova said:
That's mere hypothesizing on the visualization of the internet "infrastructure."
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You're assigning physical descriptions to things that are not actually physical
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23 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:
Lol, no way my man. The internet is entirely physical. Welcome to the real world.
A Bit is simply a transistor (physical object) which is either on or off (0 or 1). Information is stored as Bits, 8 bits make a byte, 1024 bytes make a mega byte.
The internet is a collection of core routers, fiber, fiber runs, conduit, trenches, poles, pipes, right-of-way, data centers, offices, DWDM gear, coax cable.. ETC.It's all physical baby.
What physical structure does the internet have? You cited coax cables...just how?
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