Valonqar

January 16

4 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Well that’s part of my point… I think they hooked in a bunch of people with the first movie who expected something it absolutely wasn’t. Don’t think said audience will be back again

Ah OK I get it now.

January 16

10 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

I’ve said before I think the pandemic boosted Dune not hurt it. It was the first real spectacle blockbuster release for the better part of a year and I think a ton of people checked it out who otherwise wouldn’t have (even if it was on streaming).

It’s anecdotal but I have a whole ton of anecdotal evidence of people who aren’t normally into hard sci-fi who watched it and hated it (or were bored more aptly). I would be especially surprised if a lot of the female and/or gen z demo comes back, since the Zendaya and Chalamet of it all seemed to be a big hook for that audience. But seems like once they actually saw it, it was a hard no.

It's funny cause those demos keep saying they have zero chemsitry. Maybe they are just jelly Tomdaya shippers but I'm seeing the zero chemsitry sentiment on Z and/or Timmy friendly spaces. Fauxmoi adores Z yet every time Dune is brought up they shit on Timdaya chemsitry. 🤷‍♂️

January 16

10 minutes ago, cannastop said:

because the A+ means something

It doesn't if a movie attracts only 1 demo and no one else. If it plays across demos, sure. But if the demo is quickly exhaused with no one else to carry on than it doesn't mean much. Context is everything.

January 16

15 minutes ago, abracadabra1998 said:

If a movie catches fire on Tiktok these days, WOM often isn't as important as "I have to watch it because it's hot on TikTok". It's the easiest way to catch onto the zeitgeist

Exactly. My point was that old metrics don't work for movies whose audience isn't on those old ratings systems (RT, IMDB, CS). That's why BOSAS legs didn't suffer from B+ CS while the same rating spells a disaster for lets say Marvel movies.

January 16

1 hour ago, Kon said:

That was 400k higher than predictions. I feel this film may have good legs despite divisive reception.

Yeah, its run so far doesn't reflect B score, 66% verified audience (5.8 all audience), 6.1 metacritic audience and 6.4 IMDB. So it seems that it's playing with crowd that doesn't care to rate it online.

January 15

5 hours ago, Kon said:

Honestly, I think the biggest problem is how few people under 25 years old has attracted this movie. The demographics show there were more men over 25 (21%) than women under 25 (14%).

This would never interest audience under 25. If the studio thought that over-emphasizing Halle Bailey in promos was going to draw TLM crowd they miscalculated badly. The concept isn't for younger people and considering what happens in the movie I don't know why WB went after the church crowd either. 'A' CS aside, WOM must be pretty bad if even the demo didn't bother to carry it. It's a rejection through and through Xmas Day aside.

January 15

For those who care, here are Critics Choice winners. Barbenheimer dominated with Heimer part winning 8 incl Picture and Director. Poor Things that's peaking at the right time won Actress for Stone, Holdovers that hit streaming won 2 acting:

Best Best Picture: Oppenheimer

Director: Nolan

Best Actress:Stone
Best Actor:Giamatti

BSA: RDJ
BSA:Randolph

Best Editing: Oppenheimer

Best Original Screenoplay - Barbie
Best Adapted Acreenoplay- American Fiction

Best Best Cinematography: Oppenheimer
Foreign Film : Anatomy of the Fall (neligible for AMPAS in this categiry only)
Best Song: Just Ken
Best Score: Oppenheimer
Best Production Design: Barbie
Best Animated Film: Spiderverse
Risinbg Star: Sessa
Best Comedy - Barbie
Best Costume- Barbie

Best Ensemble: Oppenheimer
Best Makeup:Barbie (inelligible for AMPAS)
Best Visuals: Oppenheimer (Ineligible for AMPAS)

January 14

54 minutes ago, abracadabra1998 said:

So many movies to watch, so little time already behind on Poor Things, Anyone But You, American Fiction, Mean Girls, The Beekeeper… not to mention the ones still expanding, like All of Us Strangers and Origin!

If I had to catch one this week… which one would y’all recommend?

ABY

January 14

14 minutes ago, Borobudur said:

I don't get how they are still this many theaters dropping the movie. Should have been in around 800 locations, especially given the hold thus far clearly isn't like a typical anime

Not sure if Heron studio is trying the same tactic but movies that expect Oscar nominations tend to drop theaters for MLK weekend or 2 weeks before noms and then go wide after the noms. Usually not super wide (over 1.5K but under 2K) but wide enough.

January 14

BOM was the worst during the Gucci run. Those totals that were going down from the previous week were hilarious and super frustrating to the Little Monsters.

January 14

2 hours ago, ThomasNicole said:

Signs of hope for adult movies, there was a few decent grossers recently, but this is definitely shaping to be one of the most surprising ones

are adult movies daresay the new SH?

Oppenheimer making SH money, Saltburn going viral like the biggest movies also wrecking the streaming together with Society of the Snow, Poor Things and All of Us Strangers holding well, ABY breaking out, etc.

January 14

Mean Girls and Beekeeper are another proof that counter-programing works. One movie for the girls, one movie for the boys and boxoffice thrives. Not saying that this is a mini Barbenheimer (Beegirls? Meankeeper?) but it's certainly working.

Also as other noted, strong year for adult movies. Ofc that nothing will be Oppenheimer ( almost 1B for a 3 hrs long talky) but platform releases are doing really well. Poor Things will pass The Favorite cause it's already running ahead of it if you compare money they made on comparable dates. They play in similar number of theaters now and PT's hold is much better than what TF had for MLK weekend.

Aqauaman 2 didn't collpase dom or OS which is also good. Passed The Flash despite The Flash testing better than TDK and A2 testing worse than The Flash actual reception. :bravo:

January 13

5 minutes ago, emoviefan said:

Once again Universal is paying attention for their Twisters marketing.

as they should. Forge iron while it's hot and this iron is very hot.

January 13

13 minutes ago, John Marston said:

I mean it is one of the biggest bombs of all time and dropped 90% from its predecessor. It’s probably one of the most iconic moments in box office history

This. I've never seen Heaven's Gate but I know that it was the biggest bomb of all times that killed a studio, cause whenever something bombs really big they say it's so and so's Heaven's Gate. Golden Compass was New Line Cinea's Heaven's Gate cause it killed the studio. Norbit was Eddie Murphy's Heaven's Gate cause it lost him the Oscar for Dreamgirls. So now The Marvels is the new iconic bomb that will give Heaven's Gate a well deserved retirement.

January 13

6 minutes ago, Eric George said:

A lot of y’all’s obsession with The Marvels bombing is getting pretty darn old if you ask me. And weird.

Nah, people are obsessed with the biggest bombs just like they are obsessed with the biggest hits. So you hear about both a lot. I still remember the time when Marvel rereleased Endgame to beat Avatar. And then Avatar got a rerelease to beat Endgame. Likewise, we are always on a lookout for what's gonna bomb worse than the previous biggest bomb. This year was quite productive in that regard.

January 13

Just want to point out that we downplay Powell in ABY's success. Was flipping streaming channels and saw that some movie of his I've never heard of is #2 on Netflix coattailing Netflix release of TGM and ABY in theaters. So while concept is the king - Madam Web looks worse than Morbius so doubtful Sweeney can polish that turd - right actors in the right concept are added value.

January 13

3 minutes ago, John Marston said:

so Anyone But You is locked to beat The Marvels? Hilarious

Also Anyone But You won’t help Madame Web like some are suggesting. That movie is making the same mistake as The Marvels for what is trying to be a female appealing movie. Not hot male lead

what's really hilarious is that it's considered hilarious. In a normal world, anyone would guess that ABY would be big with women (romcom, fashionable female lead, hot male lead) while a nerd movie would not. And yet here we are.

January 13

2 hours ago, John Marston said:

Everything except Anyone But You is having horrendous holds

Platform releases are holding well too. I said yesterday that Poor Things was going to outgross TCP this weekend and now we know it beat it on Friday. From half the theaters. Without exaggeration TCP is competing with The Marvels and The Flash for the worst theatrical run. Maybe stop putting The in the title?

2 hours ago, Kon said:

The movie is called Anyone But You after all.

Funny and brilliant. :bravo:

January 13

I'm unironically thrilled that he's back. Talk about written off too soon. 💪

January 13

6 hours ago, Jerri Blank-Diggler said:

B+ Cinemascores worked for both Hunger Games: BoSS and Anyone But You this season, so Beekeeper may just sprout some legs (wings?).

Hutchersonaissance is real. Turns FNAF into a megahit. Saves Beekeeper. Low key saves BOSAS by association. His powah:

January 13

TCP and MG have the same problem (pro tip: it isn't musical). They are remakes of stone cold classics. Both Spileberg's TCP and original MG are iconic. Everyone knows Fetch. A remake of an iconic movie has an uphill battle. It has to be as good or better and even then people may not want to pay again for something they've seen 1000 times, just because it now has different cast (that they may not like) and somewhat different take (ditto). That is also why Wonka didn't suffer from musical bait and switch. It wasn't Charlie&the Chocolate Factory remake but a prequel, a "new" thing.

January 12

Poor Things is gonna make over TCP this weekend.

January 12

On 1/9/2024 at 8:05 PM, Maggie said:

What do they mean by this?

Naomi Ackie can't catch a break. Don't know who she was in her previous life but how can one actress have such a bad karma? Cast in Star Wars so you think big break. But TROS was such (T)POS that they are unlikely to ever revisit her character. Then cast in GOT spinoff Blood Moon, but after HBO sunk 30M in the pilot, it got cancelled and locked in a vault that even GRRM never saw it. To add insult to the injury, the other spinoff HOTD took off spendidly. Lands the plum role as Whitney Houston only for Sony to dump the movie without much promotion even though Ackie got great reviews and they out it in the holiday season. And now this. :sadfleck:

January 12

Beekeeper doing better than expected is an obvious Josh Hutcherson effect. Finally, ___________(insert actor or actress) walkups meme is real! :bravo:

January 12

9 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

I think Emma Stone is very much a draw in the right role, and I would like to see her finally get her Barbie tentpole (those lame Spideys ain’t it). She could propel the right one to huge numbers.

Speaking of Spideys that was the only question she was asked by the reporters after her Golden Globe win. Was she coming back? :facepalm:

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