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  1. Why stop ? No reason and they should not stop (thus why it is perceived an issue for people that like the kind movie that cannot help sells family parks tickets, knowing they have no reason to stop that model) Others studios wouldn't I doubt any other main studio would act differently in their shoes, if they were Disney they would be Disney.
  2. At the level of recent live action Disney ? 1 Star Wars: The Last Jedi BV $620,181,382 4,232 $220,009,584 4,232 12/15 4/19 2 Beauty and the Beast (2017) BV $504,014,165 4,210 $174,750,616 4,210 3/17 7/13 3 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 BV $389,813,101 4,347 $146,510,104 4,347 5/5 9/21 4 Thor: Ragnarok BV $315,058,289 4,080 $122,744,989 4,080 11/3 3/15 5 Coco BV $209,726,015 3,987 $50,802,605 3,987 11/22 4/26 6 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales BV $172,558,876 4,276 $62,983,253 4,276 5/26 9/21 7 Cars 3 BV $152,901,115 4,256 $53,688,680 4,256 6/16 11/2 8 Born in China BV $13,873,211 1,508 $4,790,367 1,508 4/21 7/6 It is not about doing remakes/sequels (well maybe it is emotionally), but "rationally" it is not about what they do but about what they do not. They have an ROI in their current filmed entertainment business that I think no one else ever did and one that make movies that do not lend themselves to sequels/Parks segments has bad investment even if they are The Upside style of hit.
  3. I imagine it is more an affair, Dumbo is an UK production and we know the budget. Captain Marvel was in California were the qualified expenditure tax credit apply only on the first 100m spent and we do not know the budget. I would imagine a lot of the movie is high end CGIs, having a main protagonist elephant. Beauty and the beasts was significantly more expensive. They are nice high budget, the they are on massive franchise also and not a risk.
  4. Yes and he is not Jolie when he is playing on those non Marvel movie also, I compared him to himself, not to her. It cannot be cheap, but is there any reason for it to be particularly if any bigger than what she used to make or a Maleficent 2 deal ? Easy to imagine it being actually much lower than a Mal 2. Has for no reason, maybe, but if after a pause you lost the ability to even get traction on getting a long passion giant project made like Cleopatra and want to regain that type of power, Disney machine isn't a bad way for a comeback.
  5. I had too think and look to make sure which movie you were talking about to give a clue.
  6. Sure will, but there is not necessarily more money in something like this than her Maleficent deal ( I would imagine less). She was already fully inside the Disney giant family friendly movies (that her kids can watch) machine. To give an example, I am not sure Jeremy Renner ever did more on a Marvel movie than is supporting role on American Hustle payday.
  7. Looking at how much she was making on movies like SALT or The Tourist (look like 40-50m type of payday), I am not sure Marvel paycheck will feel fat. All we heard from those, these CBM are far from specially well paying studio movie wise. The fact that there an impression it could open the door to do whatever other future projects has a lot of value, one that Marvel can use to reduce their payment they are require to give to find someone willing to take the job.
  8. Jolie is a bit of a different tier than Cumberbatch, Jolie got into that Depp/Pitt/Smith type of stardom territory, that was her type of awareness metrics by market: Jolie, Angelina Australia 0.97002997 Jolie, Angelina Brazil 0.989010989 Jolie, Angelina France 0.979062812 Jolie, Angelina Germany 0.967032967 Jolie, Angelina Italy 0.990494297 Jolie, Angelina Japan 0.906577693 Jolie, Angelina Korea Jolie, Angelina Mexico 0.979125249 Jolie, Angelina Russia Jolie, Angelina Spain 0.975024975 Jolie, Angelina UK 0.978021978 Jolie, Angelina Int'l Average 0.97048677
  9. I think a lot of it is kept there: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NBK-Sj8qK3GXl-iOdHYeD94YRNxWJ9HqZ9OKdGoSx2o/edit#gid=1246392742 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zNm6jmYaVu4doQWQR6psnxz6f2AMSuKVlfEe6TOnZ5k/edit#gid=1758182291
  10. Yes the participation line is where Will Smith/Dwayne Johnson making 20% of the profits appear. Producer do tend to be employee on the project and get % point like actor would from what I understand.. A giant producer like a Graham King will be paid on a movie stuff like 2m V 5%, like big actor do. If they own a production company involved in the project I am not exactly sure how it work, say https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Entertainment the company of the very big producer Charles Roven, that was a producer of American hustle, in the somewhat very famous % deal, they were always listed together has Atlas/Roven and Atlas/Roven was getting 6% of the profit and writing in the same paragraph in the contract the same way the director/actors were. While Megan Ellison (Annapurna) was not listed in that term of percentage, her company was getting 23% of the profits and I imagine she took bonus from there, that said in a bit of a "strange" way she was paid a large producting fee of 1.6MM a fee paid per her own company in good part. So I think they try to keep it clean, them has individual and company kept distinct and everything, having their production company verses market rate producing fee to themselve and so on. On that project Annapurna part were on the investor share line and not Participations line.
  11. It include every type of back end deal / profit participation. Pretty much every time a big name getting millions of dollars, it also came with some deal that say if a movie make X you make Y more, it can take many form (thus the expression no one was ever paid only $20M in Hollywood) Writers, biggest producer on the project, actors, director tend to have participation bonus and rights/book writer owner of the property can have them also but those often got them lost during the process.
  12. It is way more than a movie business like he said: Disney doesn’t need its SVOD service to be massively profitable – or even revenue maximizing. In fact, Disney has never needed this in any business units. The Walt Disney Company isn’t in the business of selling a video or toy. It is about selling stories and IP that capture value across every media category and countless individual SKUs. A movie just for a movie (i.e. cannot make sequels, help the parks, toys, etc....) would have a really hard time being a good use of money for Disney right now, the last 2 year have they made and released just a movie ? Feel like that was a while now.
  13. That account has a bunch of nice graphic, including the why Disney isn't interested in the movie business (only in IPs creation and promotion) anymore: Movies tend to do 1x% when it goes extremely well, with their franchise model they are doing over 25%, I doubt movies can ever do that.
  14. Didn't the director put a significant amount of own money into that one too ? Making that amount not specially high.
  15. You should not do that. Breaking even theatrically should be something like: Theatrical revenues - production - overhead - theatrical release cost - participation kicked in on the revenues made in theater Residual, home ent release cost and other cost occuring because of the future windows, bonus paid on those revenues should not be counted imo.
  16. From "a person with knowledge of the matter" who asked not to be identified. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-08/-ant-man-swarms-theaters-with-76-million-take-for-walt-disney Deadline "source" told them it was $162M net: https://deadline.com/2018/07/ant-man-and-the-wasp-opening-box-office-overperform-marvel-1202422128/ Being a Georgia Disney production, we will never know.
  17. Yes P&A for "regular" movie can get not to far from blockbuster, Moneyball domestic release got a 57.67 million budget, Men in Black 3 71.6m, not that giant of a difference. And a ASIB will have a much bigger award campaign expense in there than those others. A lot of the extra visibility for them can come from product placement type of deal, making 250M-400M type of world campaign cost to the studio just 150m.
  18. Are they ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice_warrior individual who promotes socially progressive views, including feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism,[1][2] as well as identity politics. They tend to bend civil rights (like Batman do) and can promote very conservative views, some are deeply SJW like the X-Men, but if you watch Batman Begin, Raimi Spider-Man, etc... in what whey are they SJWs ?
  19. Yes mothers put in witness protection program (lifelong witness protection seeming appropriate reaction in case of a street burglary turning into an unplanned murder) tend to be separated from their childs !? that would have needed quite the twist and change how the parents being got killed story.
  20. I imagine you didn't read the left reaction to Green Book King Speech Artist Argo 12 year's a slave Birdman Spotlight Moonlight Shape of Water Green Book Could you rank those movies by how political they were with which policy a government would be influenced to vote for or against if they would be influenced by them ? I mean most of them do not feel 10% has political than something like Casablanca (that was giant propaganda) and some that can be seen has political like Spotlight are purely non partisan (I would imagine both left/right equally do not like Catholic church protecting priest and are both for good financed solid journalism).
  21. Both revenues and total cost before participation look quite low to me on that one (true that it exclude merchandising too). That was a 1.3 billion movie going over 400m domestic, 68% overseas Jurassic World 2 Theatrical: 541m Worldwide Home Entertainment: 129.8m Global TV : 164m Total Revenues: 834.80m, that would be 65% of the revenues coming from theatrical. To show what it would mean in revenue attrition from the past The Da Vinci Code, made 758m, 71% overseas (more overseas heavy) Theatrical: 369.83m Worldwide home ent: 301.56m WW TV: 154m Total Revenues: 833.63m (with some others like airlins and music), 44% of the revenues coming from theatrical Spider Man 3 made 890m Theatrical: 440.116 Worldwide home ent: 338.9m WW TV: 177m Total Revenues Without the 157m in merch): 964.85m, 45% of the revenues coming from theatrical 12 year's ago a 750m Intl heavy movie was making the exact same money than a 1.3b movie now and under 900m movies were making much more.... To gave an idea Warner Brother venues splits over the year's 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 Movie theater rental 22% 29% 28% 33% 34% 32% 33% 36% 35% 32% 41% 40% rest excluding merch 78% 71% 72% 67% 66% 68% 67% 64% 65% 68% 59% 60% Universal 2016 2017 2018 Movie theater rental 30% 34% 35% rest exclusing merch 70% 66% 65%
  22. Does match what show up in the Medici company accounting (if they are talking net)
  23. Rumors went to low 100 to significantly over 200 I think. https://www.filmla.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/2017_film_study_v3-WEB.pdf They have it at 195m estimated on that (not that particularly know but tend to get the best you can get type of numbers), 172M in the UK rest in Namibia/US.
  24. Is it really on their live action department side ? I think people talking about pacing it to maximum 2 year have a point, there is a limited amount they can make anyway. That said a bit like the 3D remake release being a giant business between 2010 to 2013 to now completely death, there is also a very big argument that this is very big now, but could be a short window fad too and better cash in it as quick has you can.
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