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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-29/furiosa-mad-max-george-miller-interview/103880214 Shot over eight months, the film employed more than 3,000 people and is Australia's most expensive film to date, with the production costing $333.2 million — $175 million offered via the NSW government, in addition to offsets from the federal government. WB could be aggressively reimbursing itself faster than the others participants here, it is often natural being those that manage the money going in. But who is loosing how much is a bit of a semantic talk versus what tend to interest people, net result of all the participant together (being what tell us if movie like that will be made again or not). Maybe the rich financier of Exodus: Gods and Kings for who it was a passion project and didn't mind at all is the only one to have lost money on it, maybe WB did loose money on Cloud Atlas, but those movie as a whole did.

9 years too long and maybe too short (No nostalgia factor yet) ? Specially for a non sequel, that should be working fully on its own like that. Top Gun, Jurassic Park, Avatar, gap between MadMax3 with Fury Road, Ocean franchise, big gap between entry that still work happen all the time, if the movie deliver. Some deflated a lot with what feel too much time, but I am not sure we can blame that factor, say Davinci Code, yes 2009->2016 is a good gap, but the down train was already going hard on those. The last Matrix sequel could have worked, if it was not such a strange product.

I will take this as a confirmation of the confirmation. I was going to say, strange for an actor to say something like that during an interview, it could be just an expression...

Is this the good link, cannot see any mention of a budget

I think this is one of the movie that has the least chance to be a bomb, while having the least chance to be a breakout hit. Floor and Ceiling are probably not that far away for this, the audience are extremely already set, level of quality almost a guarantee and so on. Imagine the resistance it would take to go through to get the audience that have not seen the previous 2-3 MI in theater ? Being a part 2....

It is a bit of an hard one for me. Inside Out like Moana is one of the biggest movies of the 2000s (when you consider year after year their numbers on rental, streaming, etc...), so opening lower than the first one instead of a Frozen type of jump could be a big deception. On the other way around, since they trained people to watch those at home, box office numbers for Pixar and Disney animation have been between disastrous and bad, Toy Story had a 50m start, Wish made 64m total.... $85M in that post 2020 Disney animation context could look good to me.

including $48.6M from the international box office. While the overseas debut is slightly off 2020’s Bad Boys for Life which did $50.3M in like-for-like offshore markets at today’s exchange rates, https://deadline.com/2024/06/bad-boys-ride-or-die-furiosa-garfield-global-international-box-office-1235963412/

On TV it was quite big (really big NBA playoff budget), but it was also big on new media, Messi, the Jimmy Butler ads long version was online, etc...

People going movie by movie for this, will tend to try to play it in some ways and are complicated stuff a bit Start with: Gross vs 2024 vs 2023 vs 2022 vs 2021 vs 2020 vs 2019 2024 $2,703,510,635 - -27% -7.2% +262.9% +51% -43.9% 2023 $3,704,381,482 +37% - +27.1% +397.2% +106.9% -23.2% 2022 $2,913,667,511 +7.8% -21.4% - +291.1% +62.7% -39.6% 2021 $745,004,363 -72.4% -79.9% -74.4% - -58.4% -84.6% 2020 $1,790,793,459 -33.8% -51.7% -38.5% +140.4% - -62.9% 2019 $4,821,920,627 +78.4% +30.2% +65.5% +547.2% +169.3% - Domestic Box office from january 1 to june 9 is down 44% since pre-pandemy, down 27% from last year Inflation adjusted that down 54% versus 2019 (movie ticket price did not move up in price much, versus Subway and McDo, while their cost did rise up). Any talk-analysis that do not have those.... But again those do not tell all the story, EndGames, Lion King, Toy Story 4, Frozen 2, Star Wars 9, Spider-Man far from home and Aladdin are all objectively bigger movie than any movie released in 2024. Bad boys, Apes did not decline that much, there a drop in product (specially Disney) that explain part of it, did Disney even released a single movie this year ?

Previous bad boys had incredible legs all consider, before March 12 when Tom Hanks closed the world. $56m with the summer legs for a $100m Sony movie look really good, could still be a rare old school gross point for Bruckheimer, Smith, Lawrence. It is not like comics had to search (or use people that did) to find material, they were an extremely public figure making it extremely public for money, clout or some other fetish reason and among the most powerful people in the entertainment industry ever, if joke of them making it an open season who would be ok to laugh at ?.

Seem like it was more CGI heavy than the previous one and in general not as slick looking. Soundtrack felt less punchy. at the start, here we go, every shot, every line, every characther decision-action, every exposition (the value of gas and ressource by how people risk live to salvage it, the harshness of the world by how fast they leave people behind). But then the story, the world lore-religion are fun, and aesthetic, but nothing make much sense and like horror movies should be left unexplained and only in surface. I am not sure if Heimsworth work that well here and with so many people either recast (or casting someone that looked exactly like them) you could have easily re-used Theron here, specially with the ending that start at Fury road, there is not a big cap of time and you have when she was a girl actress for when you need that cap anyway. Still a Miller movie and quite incredible it got made.

They should have put Academy award winners Cuba Gooding Jr

A bit like music spending having a nice rebound but not necessarily sales of newly released games, video games industry spending exploded during covid, went back to earth a little since but still really high versus 2019, where the revenues go and to who changed quite a bit A lot of the money goes into old game, games are now never ending engagement machine: https://gadgetmates.com/most-played-games-2023 Most played game in 2023 were (date of release): Fortnite (2017) PUBG (2017) Apex legends (2019) call of duty Warzone 2.0 (2022) CS:GO (2012) Minecraft (2011) League of legends (2009) Average game was like 8 years old, in the past people bought fallout, zelda-assassin creed,grand theft auto, Skyrim, GTA, played it a while, bought the next big game (over time GTA became an online never ending engagement machine, talking about the pre-2013 online version). Now they play 6 years old online game (often free to play), and all the loot box money goes every year to the same title that people play for years instead of months and never have to move to a new one. So despite record global revenues, the people making AAA single player console game, specially those who saw the 2020 spending numbers and hired with those in mind are cutting back quite a bit, record money but the allocation changed. And they do not need to buy new hardware, they play 6-10 years old game that need to run well on Indonesia Internet cafe computers, PlayStation 4 from 2013 or Switch.

The message you quoted clearly meant ticket sales: $1.7M THU for #Furiosa    closing out full opening week #boxoffice with $38.9M in 7 days. That's down 39% from #MadMax    Fury Road's $63.4M from MAY 2015. So attendance was cut in half

It had nice rebounds if we include rental (like including Netflix in a box office discussion) and non-adjusted for inflation, actual sales too are really far from back in the days, same for revenues inflation adjusted are around 6 billions in 2023 versus 22 billion in 1999 (41 billions or so in today dollars), a 85% drop. That hard to predict, TV could have killed it completely and looked like it would, it crushed it by 85-90% but it got mostly stable since, we can imagine people making up excuse to got out and be in crowd and the movie theater could continue to be one of the cheapest, easiest way to do it

If we use $8.43 vs $10.78 average ticket price 61 / 10.78 = 5.658 100 / 8.43 = 11.86 Audience would have been down by 48%, not sure it is true too, Fury Road had 3d tickets back in the days, rewatching it 2 days ago, I did remember a right, 3d for every big movie was a thing in 2015.

With how good the reception of the previous one, Tom Cruise Top Gun peak zeitgest, 96% RT score, 94% audience, A cinemascore... Opening lower than Rogue Nation with that amount of inflation.... certainly a down, and showed the impact of the shift in the China market quite a lot. Only redeeming aspect on that one, Barbie-Oppenheimer opening the next weekend did take a lot of oxygen out of the room and wrecked its legs. It is hard to talk about july 2023 has a redflag when it come to the theatrical business...

It start in the franchise boom of the early 2000s for sure, in the 80s-90s, movie distributor had nuts to cover (a cost to have their movie play that cover electricity, bulb use and what not) in theaters but otherwise were keeping a giant amount of the ticket sales of the first weekends with a slide going down. Early 2000s that went away, going from keeping 20% to 80% over time of tickets sales for movie theater could not work, now it is a flat fees almost all the time, sliding scale being a thing of the past.

It was quite quick the transition from, theatrical is not the future anymore, it will all be about OTT streaming business, to not only theatrical is super important, but you better have a monster OW at it, almost a full 180 in that regard.

The article is a bit of a strawmen, for example: But in order to do so, we have to abandon the destructive binary in which only the biggest movies get to open in theaters while smaller, more marginal releases – the ones that actually demand attention and care – are seen as disposable streaming junk. How many movies got to open in theater last year ? more than 400 ? Almost all of them were not among the biggest movies Polite society, focus feature got a nice near 1,000 theater, played for more than full year in theater, how are we in a only the biggest movie play in theater world (or open in them) ? in the cineplex near me, (not even some arthouse, the most basic arcade playing multiplex affair), we have Challengers from Guadagnino, a french (from france) import big success comedy, a japanese anime, a under 10 millions horror movie, etc.... this seem a complete reversal of causation and correlation; There were many reasons for the twin successes of Barbie and Oppenheimer, obviously, and both movies certainly opened huge. But they also had legs: Their opening weekends were only about a fourth of their overall box office, because they stuck around in theaters for months, benefiting from the fact that people liked them and told others to see them, the discourse snowballing until everybody wanted to know what the fuss was about. Every movie that do good business achieve to keep their theater, it help to keep theater to continue to have good business, but that much more the direction it good, theater chain keep movie that do well, keeping a movie that is not doing well for months would not change things much. Stuff like: , and the only things that can make money are the biggest of movies, I imagine are hyperbol, but even as a exaggeration are ridiculous, in a world in which Blumhouse exist, does any hollywood exec thing such thing ? Disney keep Searchlights only for prestige, convinced it is a money pit ? They just released the First Omen in theater. And stuff like that: To do that will mean recommitting to making better films, Good plan, if only someone at Paramount would have thought, what about making better films ! Sadly it was voted down by the others board member that say, no say to Tom Cruise to make worst movie to see how it goes.

Like Avatar 2 giant success despite a giant break between 2 dates, obviously a undeniable movie can always work regardless of date and competition, but no denial that a clean state, with a good date and a good relative timing for the IP (and actor) can help and bad one can hurt. Aquaman 2 released during the prime Superheores window, december 2019 pre covid, can imagine 700 millions. Crazy Rich Asian 2, having a release date of never seem a bad move. Guardian 3 was more troubled than it needed to be and had the franchise loose steam, but we can imagien that a regular schedule could have maybe pushed it during the 2020 anyway. Regardless 2014-2017-2023 is a strange trilogy schedule pace, 6 years is a bit too much and not enough for nostalgia type to get in. Summer 2019 (or 2020 in a non covid world), 400m dbo is easy to imagine. All the last YA franchise entry after Mockingjay part 2 in fall of 2015, Allegiant (spring 2016) Maze Runner 3 (2018), Love Simon (2018), Mortal Engine (december 2018) The genre got deflated after they got greenlight, some of them had trouble, but some were competent movie (Love Simon even really good) and could have done well in say 2010-2014 window. The last 2D animated movie of disney, Lilo & Stitch for example if it is during the 90s glory death of 2d Disney animation and not in between MonsterInc and Nemo, maybe it does really well. The Disney live action remake, if you were before of after Lion King.... it was like the biggest one that ended the genre a bit in people mind.... Little mermaid did well, 570 millions, but in the 2016-2019 window instead of Dumbo release date say ? can see $700-800 millions.

I feel like MadMax does better in a world where nothing is explained because nothing would hold up and make sense, have giant budget and time to shoot the action and goes so wild that its cannot be long, a short instead of a feature film could have been the better direction instead of a while series. Dune feel like compressed it in movies is quite the challenge in the other direction.

Cinema historically being really cheap tend to be the last (even helped by recession sometime in the past, when people turn into cheap movie theater night instead of something expensive) Gaming spending is up by a giant amount versus pre-pandemic number, it is captured by the fortnite-roblox-call of duty and couple of never ending game of that sort, changing how people consume video game and where the money goes, instead of buying new one they play old games. https://www.statista.com/statistics/252457/consumer-spending-on-video-games-in-the-us/ Spending went into lootbox, skins of those free to play games that goes on for decades and less on the $70 new AAA single games, hitting those studios in that business model.

With a movie like Dune make $711M or Godzilla x Kong making $564M it is a strange think to say. If Dune can make $711M, obviously the 1 billion is still reachable. Apes just did a 60 millions opening this very month (about the same has Rise or War did int he past..).

It usually make some difference, but always negative, people assume there good reason for a movie to fail (at large decision-making being usually an excellent metric to judge stuff)