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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)
raegr replied to Cap's topic in Numbers and Data
Very early and anecdotal but... The weekend will be a little more frontloaded due to the fan screenings probably being included with the thursday screenings, but they'd be smart to inflate the thursday numbers to pump up hype -
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 3 WEEKEND THREAD
raegr replied to Eric Duncan's topic in Numbers and Data
This was incredible. If this swapped with MoM or even Thor, it would have definitely crossed 200M imo. I think some of the other movies did a lot of damage, but I feel like this and a good Marvels movie will turn the tide -
I think we may be past the phase of a BIG THREE per say. I think we will branch off into different corners of the MCU where different ppl with have different characters they like. I think that's what's happening here. The Disney+ fans becoming insular and liking their fave shows, the BP fans supporting that, the thor fans supporting that. Marvel needs to find a way to bring these fans together again and I think Secret Wars will do that, but I think they're in a new experimental phase rn. They don't want to do another Phase 1, 2, 3; they're trying to reinvent themselves in the streaming era. So far it's had mixed results, but the brand is still strong i think
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Well, RDJ and Chris Evans weren't build over one movie. By the time the Avengers came out, RDJ was in three movies already. Shang Chi and the newer characters need time to grow and develop just like the OG Avengers did in Phase 1. Plus, Scarlett Witch is massively popular, Yelena has a huge following online, and so does Shuri.
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I'm saying. Not everything is going to be a NWH or BP or Endgame. Those are Box Office CULTURAL events and anomalies for a reason. If they happened every year or a few times a year, they wouldn't special or impactful. It takes a lot of work to get the internet going and build a movement around a film. Especially in the age of streaming and other forms of media taking up people's attention (social media, video games, TV, streaming, etc.) it's very rare that a movie captures the cultural zeitgeist, much less a sequel an already popular movie. TDKR was successful but not as successful or as huge of an event as TDK because that was a cultural moment that's difficult to capture twice. TDKR was still WILDLY SUCCESSFUL. Another example is TFA, which was a HUGE event film followed by a still successful but less popular second one. I suspect the same thing will happen w Spider-Man 4 where it will still be massively successful but not make as much money as NWH because that kind of performance was rare in the first place. The first Black Panther was a lighting in a bottle. One of the first Black heroes on the screen + build up for Infinity War + great reception. All the stars (no pun intended) aligned for that film. WF is still great, but the film industry and movie landscape has changed now. Marvel is less scarce and streaming is more popular than ever. Some people may say that they'll just stream it
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Omg? You think so?? The first Cap marvel made 1.1B and 950M w/o China. At least 850M isn't completely far fetched for the sequel. Especially if it gets good reviews and with the inclusion of Ms. Marvel and Monica. GOTG is wildly popular. Even moreso due to their appearances in IW and Endgame. So I think 850M isn't off the table. Especially considering the last one did 863M. Also, if they're able to market this as a proper send-off and create a sense of finality, it will do well.